Cutler has a good chance to win! - Page 2

**NNTB** · 10-17-2005, 02:20 PM

Darrem along with a few others were way overlooked... The O pisses me off..

**EME** · 10-17-2005, 02:37 PM

I agree. I thought Darrem looked great. Awesome physique, great lines, symmetry and balance... something that a person could strive for.. even if it's a mini version of the same look.

I would have loved to see Darrem in 5th instead of Victor.. but there was no way that was going to happen considering that the rest of the top 5 were the biggest guys on stage.

It's no wonder Troy Alves sat out. His physique would have probably been overlooked too. Hopefully he'll do the Arnold where they seem to appreciate the aesthetic physiques a little more.

I was really dissapointed with Markus, Cormier, and Kris Dim.

It looked like Markus tried to slim down and reduce his waist, but instead he just looked smaller and smooth... Granted, Markus is still big....but he appeared to have lost a lot of leg size, and even his trademark shoulders were smaller. Markus just needs to be what he is and let the judging fall where it may. He isn't going to improve his placings by coming in smaller and smooth.

Cormier was WAY off. He seriously looked about 4-5 weeks out. In the interview I saw with him in the tank top, I would have sworn he was 2 months out. He seems to have a lot of distractions in his life, or he just doesn't get up for the "O" apparently. Dissapointing to say the least.

Dim has a lot of potential, but his legs are still way overpowered by his upper body. He also just didn't look hard enough to me. With his smaller stature, he is going to have to come in totally shredded and balanced to even have a prayer of making the top 15. I wish I could have seen more of him on the PPV. The guys who didn't make the top 15 were only on stage for a few minutes in sort of a mock posedown, and the camera work wasn't too great.

Ditto with Federov. I would have like to see him Pose. I could tell he was WAY too smooth.. but I never have really gotten to see him other than in pictures. I'll have to watch the tape again and see if I can evaluate his potential a little better. He's a young guy and has plenty of time to harden up if he stays with it.

Finally, as for the Jay / Ronnie thing...

I've made my opinion pretty clear that I think Jay had the best physique on stage. But, as with all bodybuilding shows... it's very subjective and everyone has a different opinion.

This one will be talked about for a long time...... at least until next year when I'm sure there will be a new, bigger, and better controversy to discuss!

By next year.. things may be shaken up even more with the emergence of the new Asian Federation. If it truly comes to pass, the Olympia lineup could look a lot different. That's a big "If" though.

- EME

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Originally Posted by noneedtobrag

Darrem along with a few others were way overlooked... The O pisses me off..

**Trick D** · 10-17-2005, 02:43 PM

Yeah I thought Darrem should have been atleast 6th... I never understood why Melvin always got the nod over Darrem.

datruodb · 10-17-2005, 06:38 PM

I WILL SAY THIS AGAIN!! THOSE OF YOU THAT THINK RONNIE LOOKED BETTER ARE SMOKING CRACK!!!! PLEASE PUT THE PIPE DOWN AND BACK AWAY FROM IT!!! GUSTAVO LOOKED GREAT!!! BRANCH WAS OVERLOOKED AS WELL AS DJ, AND DARREM. WHO THE HELL PUT MARTINEZ IN 5TH?? HUMN...MUST OF BEEN THOSE OF YOU THAT THOUGHT RONNIE LOOKED BETTER YA'LL R SMOKING CRACK 2GETHER!!

**NNTB** · 10-17-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by datruodb

GUSTAVO LOOKED GREAT!!!

Gustavo looked good compared to the past... I still dont think he is 3rd place material though. His physique is not as good looking as other bbers.. even when ruhl had everything dialed in, in the past he still placed low because of his structure but gustavo it doesnt matter?... i really do not understand what people see in badell. I have Gunter ahead of Gustavo

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Originally Posted by datruodb

BRANCH WAS OVERLOOKED AS WELL AS DJ, AND DARREM.

Agreed

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Originally Posted by datruodb

WHO THE HELL PUT MARTINEZ IN 5TH??

Agreed

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HUMN...MUST OF BEEN THOSE OF YOU THAT THOUGHT RONNIE LOOKED BETTER YA'LL R SMOKING CRACK 2GETHER!!

Jay brought a much better package than in the past... but

Ronnie is king... get over it

**Trick D** · 10-17-2005, 07:38 PM

I didn't think DJ was overlooked... but that is my opinion... I thought he was a bit wide, and his conditioning wasn't 100%

datruodb · 10-17-2005, 07:53 PM

hell ronnie has no tricep!!! I bet he spent some of his 1.2 million from bsn to buy out the judges!!

Vinter · 10-17-2005, 08:18 PM

I still think Cutler > Coleman .. heh

and BSN would pay it out of their pocket, not him :P

datruodb · 10-17-2005, 08:54 PM

oh by the way "it was God's will"

**bubba g** · 10-18-2005, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by EME

It looked like Markus tried to slim down and reduce his waist, but instead he just looked smaller and smooth... Granted, Markus is still big....but he appeared to have lost a lot of leg size, and even his trademark shoulders were smaller. Markus just needs to be what he is and let the judging fall where it may. He isn't going to improve his placings by coming in smaller and smooth.

When they announced that they would be deducting for the distended bellys they also said they would deduct for synthol in the shoulders. I think it is why Markus didn't have his trademark shoulders.. I think it took away from his total look...

Ditto with Federov. I would have like to see him Pose. I could tell he was WAY too smooth.. but I never have really gotten to see him other than in pictures. I'll have to watch the tape again and see if I can evaluate his potential a little better. He's a young guy and has plenty of time to harden up if he stays with it.

Federov has so many muscle imballances he will never even crack the top 10.

He has the pec tear, one of his lats is like 3 inches higher than the other, his traps are so uneven it is pathetic,, He is all hype.. look at these pics to see what I mean.. look at his uneven lats here, and the pec tear... http://www.flexonline.com/contests/0...s/aar0144.html

look at his traps, and rhomboids how uneven... http://www.flexonline.com/contests/0...s/aar0172.html

http://www.flexonline.com/contests/0...s/aar0173.html

GameDayDog · 10-18-2005, 08:29 AM

Yeah, in those pics he looks awful... and I can really see the differences in his back in those pics .. Yuck... But that tanning color was perfect... Was that Sunset Bronze #23 by Sherman Williams??

Peace..~G

~~Hacking is a Felony~~ · 10-18-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GameDayDog

But that tanning color was perfect... Was that Sunset Bronze #23 by Sherman Williams??

:rofl:

datruodb · 10-18-2005, 05:53 PM

looks like some sort of sherwin williams

Vinter · 10-18-2005, 06:12 PM

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oh by the way "it was God's will"

rofl, I bet it was....

I did read somewhere that Coleman lifts because its why god created him?

**bubba g** · 10-18-2005, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GameDayDog

Yeah, in those pics he looks awful... and I can really see the differences in his back in those pics .. Yuck... But that tanning color was perfect... Was that Sunset Bronze #23 by Sherman Williams??

Peace..~G

lol yeah alot of european bodybuilders use that bronzer instead of tan...

**EME** · 10-18-2005, 09:33 PM

It's Dream Tan. Usually a combination of Dream Tan #1 and #2..

One guy had it on at the Europa and he looked like he was cast out of solid gold.

I was calling him the "Golden Child" and Kendra was calling him "Oscar", as in the award statue.

We were joking that at the Olympia, Ronnie would just take him home as the Trophy!

I personally can't stand Dream Tan for my base color because it never actually dries and it gets all over everything. A lot of shows have actually banned it from being applied backstage, or sometimes from even being used at all.

I actually do use it on my underarms though because I have a hard time getting Pro Tan to stick there. Dream tan works well for that one purpose for me.

- EME

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Originally Posted by bubba g

lol yeah alot of european bodybuilders use that bronzer instead of tan...

**bubba g** · 10-18-2005, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EME

It's Dream Tan. Usually a combination of Dream Tan #1 and #2..

One guy had it on at the Europa and he looked like he was cast out of solid gold.

I was calling him the "Golden Child" and Kendra was calling him "Oscar", as in the award statue.

We were joking that at the Olympia, Ronnie would just take him home as the Trophy!

I personally can't stand Dream Tan for my base color because it never actually dries and it gets all over everything. A lot of shows have actually banned it from being applied backstage, or sometimes from even being used at all.

I actually do use it on my underarms though because I have a hard time getting Pro Tan to stick there. Dream tan works well for that one purpose for me.

- EME

LOL Ronnie taking him home as a trophy....
Is dream tan the one that will kill your definition because it is so thick. I heard Bob Chic say that once....

Which is the one everyone uses?

Oh yeah and whatevr Jay did for his tan at this olympia he should stick with it.. He usualy looks like a lobster....

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datruodb Pro Stature Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tulsa, Ok Posts: 326 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	I WILL SAY THIS AGAIN!! THOSE OF YOU THAT THINK RONNIE LOOKED BETTER ARE SMOKING CRACK!!!! PLEASE PUT THE PIPE DOWN AND BACK AWAY FROM IT!!! GUSTAVO LOOKED GREAT!!! BRANCH WAS OVERLOOKED AS WELL AS DJ, AND DARREM. WHO THE HELL PUT MARTINEZ IN 5TH?? HUMN...MUST OF BEEN THOSE OF YOU THAT THOUGHT RONNIE LOOKED BETTER YA'LL R SMOKING CRACK 2GETHER!! __________________ Vanilla Gorilla

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datruodb Pro Stature Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tulsa, Ok Posts: 326 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	hell ronnie has no tricep!!! I bet he spent some of his 1.2 million from bsn to buy out the judges!! __________________ Vanilla Gorilla

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GameDayDog The Dawg Is Back!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Doin Compound Movements 4 Scooby Snacks! Posts: 1,914 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 32	Yeah, in those pics he looks awful... and I can really see the differences in his back in those pics .. Yuck... But that tanning color was perfect... Was that Sunset Bronze #23 by Sherman Williams?? Peace..~G __________________ I am Thee Alpha.. RaSP is Thee oMEGA.. Between the 2 of us - We have everythyng covered... I want to be bigger than all the humans!! "I'm sure I should be doing cardio too....but I don't run from anything...so why practice?" - 1stInDoor Goal - 200#'s 5/27/07 - 4/27/07 - 175# 3/27/07 - 167#

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