in your guys opinion?

yazf909 · 12-21-2006, 04:36 AM

ok im down to my last scoops of my ONs chocolate milk, i was hearing some people talk about mixing there whey with gatorade mix, i have 2 big cans of gatorade one blue rush, and one lemon lime, i also wanna take my creatine post work out with my whey, only problem is getting my gi up for the creatine thats where the gatorade mix, i havent tried mixing my whey, creatin and gatorade mix cuz, chocolate flavor whey with gatorade powder would be disguisting. so my question is what do you guys recomend i get whey protien wise, if i was to mix gatorade powder, creatine, and whey that will taste really good. thanks

**romanaz** · 12-21-2006, 04:59 AM

something fruity

**Jayhawkk** · 12-21-2006, 05:23 AM

Sounds like something from Necter would fit your needs.

Mulletsoldier · 12-21-2006, 06:26 AM

You could also try to implement some During Workout nutrition, mixing your creatine with some BCAAs and sipping whilst lifting, and keeping your whey on its own for Post Workout nutrition. I find sipping on some Gatorade during a workout helps me with intensity, as you are supplying your body with immediate glycogen to replenish glycolytic stores which are being depleted during exercise. Give it a go, I find it helps me with intensity, endurance. Also, there is not really a risk of adipose storage this way.

**romanaz** · 12-21-2006, 06:37 AM

studies show creatine doesn't take effect for i believe 30-40minutes after consumption, hence why u take it 30mins preworkout (if u gotta take it preworkout) and postworkout.

Mulletsoldier · 12-21-2006, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by romanaz

studies show creatine doesn't take effect for i believe 30-40minutes after consumption, hence why u take it 30mins preworkout (if u gotta take it preworkout) and postworkout.

Yes, but I believe the studies you are referencing would have been on Monohydrate as opposed to an Ethyl Ester or Gluconate form. The wait time was because Monohydrate in its salt form was very soluble in water, and as a result degrades largely before it reaches the cell for permeation. Which, is why you had to load Monohydrate. Adding the ethyl group allows the creatine salt to survive first pass liver degradation, whilst the ester improves cell permeation. I.e., a 30 minute wait period is not neccessary with CEE as ATP improvement should theoretically be exerted at a much faster rate. As a result, intra-workout dosing is pretty effective. Hence the CEE/BCAA/Gatorade mix during workout

CEE for ATP production (ATP=fuel for muscular contraction)
BCAA for protein syntheis
Gatorade to replenish glycolytic stores

**Jayhawkk** · 12-21-2006, 08:06 AM

I taught him everything he knows.

**Ikaika** · 12-21-2006, 02:16 PM

You could get some ON vanilla...I've used it with pretty much all the flavors of Gatorade and it tastes just fine.

Mulletsoldier makes a great point about getting some BCAA's, carbs, and creatine during your workout. Products like SizeOn provide creatine gluconate, Scivation Xtend is a great BCAA supp, and vanilla whey protein mixes REALLY well with watermelon Xtend...makes it taste like strawberries.

**romanaz** · 12-21-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier

theoretically

if you don't mind me playing devils advocate, any studies on that? :-D

Mulletsoldier · 12-21-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by romanaz

if you don't mind me playing devils advocate, any studies on that? :-D

Negative, but if I had some would you understand them?

Unfortunately, no muscle cell biopsy studies on human patients, at least to my knowledge, have been conducted on CEE as opposed to Mono. However, the biology of its creation leads me, and most others, to feel that CEE is a far more cell permeable form of Creatine because it does not need to utilize Mono's transport molecules because the transport system is inherent.

Basically what I am trying to say is, if you like Mono, and feel you still have to take it 30 minutes Pre-Workout before it takes affect then do. I will not lose sleep either way, lol, just presenting you with an explanation on what I feel is an accepted view within the community. Kay kay? Kay kay.

**romanaz** · 12-21-2006, 11:40 PM

:-D

haha I hear ya there.

12-21-2006, 04:36 AM	#1
yazf909 Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 340 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 8	in your guys opinion? ok im down to my last scoops of my ONs chocolate milk, i was hearing some people talk about mixing there whey with gatorade mix, i have 2 big cans of gatorade one blue rush, and one lemon lime, i also wanna take my creatine post work out with my whey, only problem is getting my gi up for the creatine thats where the gatorade mix, i havent tried mixing my whey, creatin and gatorade mix cuz, chocolate flavor whey with gatorade powder would be disguisting. so my question is what do you guys recomend i get whey protien wise, if i was to mix gatorade powder, creatine, and whey that will taste really good. thanks

12-21-2006, 05:23 AM	#3
Jayhawkk Nutraplanet Rep Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,106 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 44	Sounds like something from Necter would fit your needs. __________________ Nutraplanet.com for all your supplement needs! ------------------------------ Hangin's too good for 'em! BURNIN'S too good for 'em! They should be ripped into itsy-bitsy little pieces and BURIED ALIVE!

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12-21-2006, 02:16 PM	#8
Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,900 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 222	You could get some ON vanilla...I've used it with pretty much all the flavors of Gatorade and it tastes just fine. Mulletsoldier makes a great point about getting some BCAA's, carbs, and creatine during your workout. Products like SizeOn provide creatine gluconate, Scivation Xtend is a great BCAA supp, and vanilla whey protein mixes REALLY well with watermelon Xtend...makes it taste like strawberries. __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

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12-21-2006, 06:26 AM	#4
Mulletsoldier Amateur Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 23 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	You could also try to implement some During Workout nutrition, mixing your creatine with some BCAAs and sipping whilst lifting, and keeping your whey on its own for Post Workout nutrition. I find sipping on some Gatorade during a workout helps me with intensity, as you are supplying your body with immediate glycogen to replenish glycolytic stores which are being depleted during exercise. Give it a go, I find it helps me with intensity, endurance. Also, there is not really a risk of adipose storage this way.