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Old 02-15-2006, 02:46 PM   #1
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I would like to thank Molecular Nutrition for sponsoring me to test Xfactor. During my cycle of X factor, I recieved numerous pm's and have recommended it to many below 21 who wanted to use ph's and also to some as a part of their PCT. Given below is a summary of some of the common questions. I am not very knowledgible on this product and the following writeup may have errors, if so please correct me and I will make the necessary changes.


Is X factor a prohormone?
X factor is a combination of fatty acids. Its is one of the best non hormonal alternatives (NHA) around.

Does X factor require a PCT?
X factor does nothing to change/suppress hormonal levels in the body. Wonder why so many PCT questions come up with the X factor.

So how does one use X factor?
Ideally for a cycle of X factor one must have 2 bottles of the product. The recommended duration of an Xf cycle is 50 days. It is recommended to take a month off after a 50 day cycle.

Each bottle contains 100 softgels.
The daily dose for X factor is 1000mg of AA.
An ideal way to run X factor is
1 cap with morning meal
2 caps preworkout
1 cap pre bed time.


So I assume as its is a NHA there are no sides to this product.
From my personal experience the only noticeable side I have come across is DOMS. For most of the first week, its real fun. The DOMS starts normally around mid week 2 and wears off by the beginning of week 4. Come onnn, man up and take the damn pain

What products/supplements should I not take along with X factor?

Flax seed oil, Fish oils , Olive oils, Peanut Butter most EFA’s , salmons and most sea food products, milkthistle and CLA.

Also when you have the DOMS, no painkillers, no Non Sterodial Anti Inflammatory Drugs (NSAIDS). Sorry but this is the only downside to Xf.

Can Xfactor be used in my PCT after a suppressive cycle?

Xfactor is real good at keeping gains. But you must also remember that if you are really shut down, and your nat. test levels are low, your gains are low. Typically in a 4 week PCT, I would run Xfactor starting week 3 and run it for 50 days from there.

Give me a sample PCT incorporating Xfactor

Assuming it is a 4 weeker

Week 1 SERM x mg
Week 2 SERM x mg Tribulus/Test Booster 5g
Week 3 SERM x mg Start X factor Trib 5g
Week 4 SERM x mg X f Trib 2.5g Start Activate
X f Trib 2.5g Activate


Xf Activate
Xf Activate
Xf
Xf


So you mentioned no NAC/CLA/Milkthistle and I am using Xf in my PCT to keep my gains. I am just coming off a harsh ph cycle and I need something for my liver. What do I do?
There is a very good product , Liv 52 by Himalaya Drugs. It can be used year round and imho is one of the most underrated liver supports in the market.

What are the good things to supplement with on Xfactor?
Extra virgin coconut oil, personally I love cooking with this oil and I thoroughly loved using it with Xfactor. Good dairy fats from milk, cheese and cream are also highly recommended.

Being a person who has used prohormones , how would you describe Xfactor.
Xfactor is among the most powerful NHA’s I’ve used. My only regret is I used it only for 25 days.

Personally I would say Xfactor is an awesome supplement for lean bulking and/or re-composition. X factor conserves mass very well and works extremely effectively with Clenbutrol and the ECA stack.

As a bulking product, I would rate it a tad lesser than ph’s. Of course, it can be used very well for bulking too. It works great with most cell volumisers. But as a person who uses a lot of peanut butter and EFA’s on a bulk, I would feel very limited using Xfactor for bulking. Hence I feel its awesome for any kind of recomposition.

What supplements would be good to use for recomposition?
ECA/Controlled Labs Red Acid/ DS Melting Point/ AX Rampage+ Yohimbe are all good supplements that can be run in the 50 days re-composition.

Would HST be good while using X factor?
In my personal experience HST would give the maximum DOMS, if you are up for it, you can train HST else you can switch to another training type.



The views expressed are wholly mine and do not refelect either Molecular Nutrition of Anabolic Xtreme.



Summary of results

Cost 6/10
Results 9/10
Sides 8/10
Ease of use/support supplements 10/10

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Old 02-15-2006, 04:26 PM   #2
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Good info! Im considering taking the 50 day x factor cycle. currently i am taking Leukic and showing some gains.

should i wait 30 days or so after Leukic is over before starting xfactor?
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I'll be adding X-Factor to my PCT when I do a PH cycle, even a AAS cycle. It will help me keep the gains and maybe even add a bit.

Great info Krnza.
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Good info! Im considering taking the 50 day x factor cycle. currently i am taking Leukic and showing some gains.

should i wait 30 days or so after Leukic is over before starting xfactor?
Probably isn't necessary to wait 30 days but it wouldn't be a bad idea. It might help you attribute certain effects to a specific product.
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Good job on the log and your 50 day cycle
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Probably isn't necessary to wait 30 days but it wouldn't be a bad idea. It might help you attribute certain effects to a specific product.
very true- thanks
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from the title of the thread i thought you were giving away free botles of x factor
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You suggested 4 pills a day. Is that only for 200+ lbers? im at about 180 so i would do one in the morning, i pre workout and one before bed.

Also, my 2 bottles should be here soon and is it suggested to just continue your same workout or should extra cardio/lifting need to be added?

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The general dosing for everyone is 1g a day which totals out to 4 250mg a day.

Your about 180 so if I were you I would go with 4 capsules a day.

For your second questions you are going to need to post your current cardio/ weight training routine.
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i usually do

chest/tri
back/bi
legs
shoulders

on M, T, W, THR

usually run 1-2 miles M,W,F along with abs in the morning/afternoon with workouts being done at night
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Nice post krzna
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I was asking more about your volume/ what style you train. What is a typical workout for you (reps and sets included)
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my workout
still the same with some variation week to week
http://ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5471
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my workout
still the same with some variation week to week
http://ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5471
:nosthumbs That workout looks good.
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thanks - another question for the OP

i just got my x-factor (50 day cycle, 2 bottles) and will be starting in a couple weeks. (i took a week off due to sickness and i want to be back to 100% before starting the cycle)

on training days you take 1 pill with breakfast, 2 pills pre workout, 1 before bed. what about off days? 1 breakfast, 2 before lunch, 1 night?

also, i workout at about 7:30 or 8:00 pm. and would be having 3 pills within a few hours of eachother. is this alright or should i take the two pills earlier in the day?
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How come I'm not getting sore off X-Factor =\
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on training days you take 1 pill with breakfast, 2 pills pre workout, 1 before bed. what about off days? 1 breakfast, 2 before lunch, 1 night?
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On off days you go 1-1-1-1 but i tihnk 2-2(sleep/morning) can work better for some reason =|
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two in the morning and 2 before bed?

i also saw 2 morning 1 no