x-factor

**Ikaika** · 10-18-2005, 01:47 AM

I know that EME is a big fan of x-factor, but I was wondering what you other guys think. It isn't cheap at $45-$50 a bottle, and you need 2 bottles to do the 50 day cycle that is suggested.

So, lets hear everyone's experiences and opinions on this product...a cursory glance and EME's support for it have piqued my interest...

**Trick D** · 10-19-2005, 11:17 PM

I like it. Granted my nutrition hasn't been 100% while on it. But my bf % is down, and my weight is a few pounds higher. It is good stuff, but make sure you are going to be dedicated while taking it. No bsing around. Also make sure to read precautions.

Vinter · 10-19-2005, 11:30 PM

Did you do a log Trick?

**Trick D** · 10-20-2005, 12:58 AM

No, because I don't keep logs very well. I am a super busy person and never finish logs. So I did it myself. I was at about 12% bf according to a caliper (1 site on obliques), but I hold a bit more fat at the obliques. I had a clear and define 6pack and other various cuts. I would have estimated it at 9% or so. Now I am probably at about 7% or so.

**jkeithc82** · 10-20-2005, 02:42 AM

Pure's got a log at BB and I think he achieved solid gains from it.

**Ikaika** · 10-20-2005, 03:18 AM

the logs i found (didn't see Pure's) were all either by max von or someone he knew...the guy was like all over these things and i was a bit skeptical since he kept popping up as the only one who knew wtf was going on.

i'll take a peek @ Pure's log tho...thx for the info jkeith

**EME** · 10-20-2005, 02:06 PM

Hey Ikaika,

There are a lot of summaries here in this thread over at BB.com from those of us who were in the original testing group:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=455334

There are also a lot of pretty detailed logs in this thread:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=409313

Hopefully that gives you some info you hadn't already seen.

- EME

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Originally Posted by Ikaika

the logs i found (didn't see Pure's) were all either by max von or someone he knew...the guy was like all over these things and i was a bit skeptical since he kept popping up as the only one who knew wtf was going on.

i'll take a peek @ Pure's log tho...thx for the info jkeith

**Ikaika** · 10-20-2005, 02:21 PM

sweet, thanks for the info EME. i'll get to readin as soon as i get out of class.

**jkeithc82** · 10-20-2005, 03:58 PM

Link to Pure's log

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ghlight=factor

xKAREEMx · 11-04-2005, 02:59 PM

yea im also interested in trying out x-factor for my bulk but it's quite expensive

**Trick D** · 11-04-2005, 03:25 PM

Well that is true that it is expensive... you could buy one bottle and then half way through you could buy another... (well you could time it right, and maybe it wouldn't be so hard on your pocket that way).

Remember... supplements aren't miracle drugs, and a sound nutrition is vital for any supplements but definitely x factor. X factor will help you put protein to use the way that us bodybuilders want it to be used. Make sure you get your protein... or you will waste 100 bucks faster than fast.

**EME** · 11-04-2005, 03:26 PM

People often think that at first glance, but when compared to the popular hormone cycles that are currently being run, and taking into account the cost of PCT and other preventative supplements people use on cycle, it actually comes out to be the same, or even less expensive over 50 days.

For example, a two month supply, even at current reduced prices, of most hormonal products will run you around $60-$80 ( sometimes more ) add to that the cost of a PCT product (~ $30) and then other preventative supplements like perfect cycle or similar indredients ( ~$30)

This alone would be $120 +

Also, keeping in mind that people often run more than one compound at once, and often use multiple products during PCT, 8 weeks use of hormonal products and 4 weeks PCT could easily cost $150 - $200

50 days of X-Factor will cost you about $100

Granted, if you don't use hormonal products this comparison may not apply, but, there are many other supplements that people use in the $40 - $50 per month range.. so it's not that expensive when put into that context.

I certainly understand that all these things add up, and you have to do what you can do. But, I really recommned giving X-Factor a try if you can swing it.

Just make sure you have the time to devote your full attention to training and eating during your cycle because X-Factor amplifies the results you get from your work. The more you put in, the more you'll get out of it.

- EME

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Originally Posted by xKAREEMx

yea im also interested in trying out x-factor for my bulk but it's quite expensive

Phosphate bond · 11-10-2005, 08:40 AM

I'm using it now along with what would normally is considered a "micro" dose of DHA. I think it is one of the best supplements out there.

**powerman2000** · 01-28-2006, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xKAREEMx

yea im also interested in trying out x-factor for my bulk but it's quite expensive

That's why I volunteered to be a tester so I could get some for free.

**Aeternitatis** · 02-06-2006, 07:03 AM

X-Factor is more than worth the money IMO. Check some of the logs we got going on here. Two testers have already reported gaining weight while simultaneously loosing fat. To me, X-Factor is easily comparable to PHs.

And as for price, when you consider the efficacy of the product, it really isn't all that expensive. Fore example, a new pump product that just came out and is already popular costs $50 for 30 days worth. But you KNOW that it isn't even going to come close to providing the types of gains one will get from X-Factor.

If you need more info, there are many pages of it at BB.com. Just find a post by me over there and check the links in my sig.

~~PROD1GY~~ · 02-06-2006, 10:23 PM

You can find it for less then 50 on online.
I seen them go for 41 bucks a bottle + 5$ flat ship.

xKAREEMx · 02-09-2006, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerman2000

That's why I volunteered to be a tester so I could get some for free.

rofl lucky.......

nextteenamateur · 02-09-2006, 11:28 PM

I'm about half way through with my run of it, and I am loving it. I really suggest that you try it. I agree with EME, however, that you should wait to get it until you know how to set up your diet for it. It is KEY to get extra fat in and to follow the dietary guidelines posted by Aeternitatis.

bdybldr16 · 02-10-2006, 06:25 PM

X-Factor was great for me. I am going to use it as a part of a Pheraplex PCT in the near future.

MyTMouse · 02-10-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bdybldr16

X-Factor was great for me. I am going to use it as a part of a Pheraplex PCT in the near future.

you might want to rethink that. at least read up a bit on it. I believe I read somewhere that

10-18-2005, 01:47 AM	#1
Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,845 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 220	x-factor I know that EME is a big fan of x-factor, but I was wondering what you other guys think. It isn't cheap at $45-$50 a bottle, and you need 2 bottles to do the 50 day cycle that is suggested. So, lets hear everyone's experiences and opinions on this product...a cursory glance and EME's support for it have piqued my interest... __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

10-19-2005, 11:30 PM	#3
Vinter Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 194 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Did you do a log Trick? __________________ 8/15/05 - 232 8/22/05 - 227 8/26/05 - 225 9/2/05 - 224 - 23% bf 9/10/05 - 221 - 21.85% bf 9/19/05 - 220 - 21.4% bf 9/26/05 - 219 - 21% bf 10/3/05 - 217.5 - 20.8% bf 10/10/05 - 218 - 19.6% bf 10/17/05 - 214 - 18.07% bf 10/28/05 - 210 - 17.04% bf http://www.sickofbeingfat.net/profiles.aspx?vinter N'Gorge, Melting Point, Rebound XT Log

10-20-2005, 03:18 AM	#6
Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,845 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 220	the logs i found (didn't see Pure's) were all either by max von or someone he knew...the guy was like all over these things and i was a bit skeptical since he kept popping up as the only one who knew wtf was going on. i'll take a peek @ Pure's log tho...thx for the info jkeith __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

10-20-2005, 02:21 PM	#8
Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,845 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 220	sweet, thanks for the info EME. i'll get to readin as soon as i get out of class. __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

02-06-2006, 07:03 AM	#15
Aeternitatis The Alchemist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Delirium, Tremens Posts: 173 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	X-Factor is more than worth the money IMO. Check some of the logs we got going on here. Two testers have already reported gaining weight while simultaneously loosing fat. To me, X-Factor is easily comparable to PHs. And as for price, when you consider the efficacy of the product, it really isn't all that expensive. Fore example, a new pump product that just came out and is already popular costs $50 for 30 days worth. But you KNOW that it isn't even going to come close to providing the types of gains one will get from X-Factor. If you need more info, there are many pages of it at BB.com. Just find a post by me over there and check the links in my sig. __________________ No longer a rep for MN

10-20-2005, 02:42 AM	#5
jkeithc82 Moderating Wizard Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 698 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 14	Pure's got a log at BB and I think he achieved solid gains from it.

10-20-2005, 03:58 PM	#9
jkeithc82 Moderating Wizard Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 698 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 14	Link to Pure's log http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ghlight=factor

11-04-2005, 02:59 PM	#10
xKAREEMx Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Longisland , NY Posts: 346 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 107	yea im also interested in trying out x-factor for my bulk but it's quite expensive

11-10-2005, 08:40 AM	#13
Phosphate bond Amateur Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 77 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	I'm using it now along with what would normally is considered a "micro" dose of DHA. I think it is one of the best supplements out there.

02-06-2006, 10:23 PM	#16
~~PROD1GY~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 386 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	You can find it for less then 50 on online. I seen them go for 41 bucks a bottle + 5$ flat ship.

02-09-2006, 11:28 PM	#18
nextteenamateur Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clemson, SC Posts: 336 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	I'm about half way through with my run of it, and I am loving it. I really suggest that you try it. I agree with EME, however, that you should wait to get it until you know how to set up your diet for it. It is KEY to get extra fat in and to follow the dietary guidelines posted by Aeternitatis. __________________ My X-Factor bulk log: http://www.ironmass.com/forums/showt...d=1#post106271 My LipidFX log: http://ironmass.com/forums/showthrea...6900#post96900 ********* Discount Code for 5% Off: SPB296** RAW TESTED LIFTS: Dead - 455 Squat - 405 Bench - 230 (getting up there) Going for an 1100 pound total and beyond

02-10-2006, 06:25 PM	#19
bdybldr16 Amateur Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 69 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 3	X-Factor was great for me. I am going to use it as a part of a Pheraplex PCT in the near future.