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**BobThePotato** · 07-13-2005, 11:47 PM

Any thoughts on this product?

**warriors** · 07-14-2005, 03:37 AM

It's basically just a Citrulline Malate product isnt it?? Ive seen good reviews on it but it's too overpriced for what it's worth IMO. I would just go with bulk Citrulline Malate

**BobThePotato** · 07-14-2005, 04:39 AM

yeh thats all it is, but i was more or less wondering more about the active ingredient (Citrulline-Malate) than the actual product, the ingredient profile is:

Serving Size: 3 Caplets
Servings Per Container: 60

Amount Per Serving:

Citrulline-Malate 3000mg
Regall Biosorb 5mg

Other Ingredients:
Cellulose, Stearic Acid, Magnesium Stearate.

~~Hacking is a Felony~~ · 07-14-2005, 04:48 AM

I would go with the bulk powder or even look into using Scivation Xtend which is BCAA's with Citrulline Malate.

Here's some info for you ..

What is it?

Citrulline Malate is a compound consisting of Citrulline, a nonessential amino acid that is primarily found in melons, and malate, an apple derivative. For the past 20 years Citrulline Malate has been used in Europe to treat fatigue, muscle weakness and Dementia. Dementia is a mental disorder that affects your ability to think, speak and move. Citrulline Malate has been used with great success by European clinicians as a natural antiasthenic, with reported results of increased energy and overall feelings of well-being.

What does it do?

1. Increases NO Production

So what is NO and what can it do for you? Nitric oxide is the cell-signaling molecule that has a part in regulating blood flow, oxygen delivery, glucose uptake, muscle firepower, and muscle growth. Obviously the ability to control these physiological effects can be of tremendous value to athletes.

Research has shown that supplementation of Citrulline raises Arginine levels more effectively than taking the same dose of straight Arginine. Keep in mind that Citrulline Malate's NO enhancing properties are just one of the unique benefits this nutrient offers to athletes. And if the enhanced pumps and improved nutrient delivery properties are the reason you are using Arginine based NO products, you need to pay attention to Citrulline Malate.

2. Reduces Lactic Acid and Ammonia

Here is something else you need to know about Citrulline... it is an intermediate in the Urea Cycle. The Urea Cycle is a system in the liver of carrier molecules and enzymes that convert nitrogenous wastes into urea and eliminates them from the body. The production and removal of urea is essential for the elimination of ammonia and toxic nitrogen metabolites. Ammonia is extremely toxic to all cells and excessive levels may even be fatal. Even in healthy athletes, the build up of ammonia can lead to extreme fatigue and dementia.

3. Increases ATP Production

No doubt there is a lot to get excited about when it comes to the performance enhancing potential of Citrulline Malate and how it works. Another study showed yet another way Citrulline Malate can benefit athletes - by increasing aerobic energy production. Studies show subjects using Citrulline Malate have an increase in the rate of muscle ATP (Andenosine Triphosphate, the major energy source within the cell) production during exercise and greater phosphocreatine recovery after exercise. So taking Citrulline Malate may result in muscles that can keep on going and going... completely smashing the aerobic threshold! These effects are more than likely mediated by the malate portion of the Citrulline Malate compound, which is a Krebs Cycle intermediate.

How much do I take?

Most people see fairly dramatic effects from 3-6 grams twice per day, but benefits from CM start much lower than that.

**warriors** · 07-14-2005, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BobThePotato

yeh thats all it is, but i was more or less wondering more about the active ingredient (Citrulline-Malate) than the actual product, the ingredient profile is:

Serving Size: 3 Caplets
Servings Per Container: 60

Amount Per Serving:

Citrulline-Malate 3000mg
Regall Biosorb 5mg

Other Ingredients:
Cellulose, Stearic Acid, Magnesium Stearate.

Well if your just wanting Citrulline Malate then def. go with a bulk powder and save yourself alot of money.

**BobThePotato** · 07-14-2005, 06:01 PM

hmm alright thanks guys i might have to try some of this out

07-13-2005, 11:47 PM	#1
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warriors The world is yours Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,127 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 29	It's basically just a Citrulline Malate product isnt it?? Ive seen good reviews on it but it's too overpriced for what it's worth IMO. I would just go with bulk Citrulline Malate __________________ Not Around...

07-14-2005, 04:39 AM	#3
BobThePotato Nublarsaurusrex Join Date: May 2005 Location: Calgary//Alberta Posts: 513 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 21	yeh thats all it is, but i was more or less wondering more about the active ingredient (Citrulline-Malate) than the actual product, the ingredient profile is: Serving Size: 3 Caplets Servings Per Container: 60 Amount Per Serving: Citrulline-Malate 3000mg Regall Biosorb 5mg Other Ingredients: Cellulose, Stearic Acid, Magnesium Stearate. __________________ "Geadelt ist wer Schmerzen kennt vom Feuer das in Lust verbrennt."

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BobThePotato Nublarsaurusrex Join Date: May 2005 Location: Calgary//Alberta Posts: 513 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 21	hmm alright thanks guys i might have to try some of this out __________________ "Geadelt ist wer Schmerzen kennt vom Feuer das in Lust verbrennt."

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07-14-2005, 04:48 AM	#4
~~Hacking is a Felony~~ I destroy property Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,105 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	I would go with the bulk powder or even look into using Scivation Xtend which is BCAA's with Citrulline Malate. Here's some info for you .. What is it? Citrulline Malate is a compound consisting of Citrulline, a nonessential amino acid that is primarily found in melons, and malate, an apple derivative. For the past 20 years Citrulline Malate has been used in Europe to treat fatigue, muscle weakness and Dementia. Dementia is a mental disorder that affects your ability to think, speak and move. Citrulline Malate has been used with great success by European clinicians as a natural antiasthenic, with reported results of increased energy and overall feelings of well-being. What does it do? 1. Increases NO Production So what is NO and what can it do for you? Nitric oxide is the cell-signaling molecule that has a part in regulating blood flow, oxygen delivery, glucose uptake, muscle firepower, and muscle growth. Obviously the ability to control these physiological effects can be of tremendous value to athletes. Research has shown that supplementation of Citrulline raises Arginine levels more effectively than taking the same dose of straight Arginine. Keep in mind that Citrulline Malate's NO enhancing properties are just one of the unique benefits this nutrient offers to athletes. And if the enhanced pumps and improved nutrient delivery properties are the reason you are using Arginine based NO products, you need to pay attention to Citrulline Malate. 2. Reduces Lactic Acid and Ammonia Here is something else you need to know about Citrulline... it is an intermediate in the Urea Cycle. The Urea Cycle is a system in the liver of carrier molecules and enzymes that convert nitrogenous wastes into urea and eliminates them from the body. The production and removal of urea is essential for the elimination of ammonia and toxic nitrogen metabolites. Ammonia is extremely toxic to all cells and excessive levels may even be fatal. Even in healthy athletes, the build up of ammonia can lead to extreme fatigue and dementia. 3. Increases ATP Production No doubt there is a lot to get excited about when it comes to the performance enhancing potential of Citrulline Malate and how it works. Another study showed yet another way Citrulline Malate can benefit athletes - by increasing aerobic energy production. Studies show subjects using Citrulline Malate have an increase in the rate of muscle ATP (Andenosine Triphosphate, the major energy source within the cell) production during exercise and greater phosphocreatine recovery after exercise. So taking Citrulline Malate may result in muscles that can keep on going and going... completely smashing the aerobic threshold! These effects are more than likely mediated by the malate portion of the Citrulline Malate compound, which is a Krebs Cycle intermediate. How much do I take? Most people see fairly dramatic effects from 3-6 grams twice per day, but benefits from CM start much lower than that.