Opinion... is ATD any good for the natural bodybuilder?

Trick D · 02-14-2006, 04:26 AM

Basically just wondering if an ATD can be beneficial for the natural bodybuilder in anyway.

DarkFalcon · 02-14-2006, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Trick D

Basically just wondering if an ATD can be beneficial for the natural bodybuilder in anyway.

The jury is out for me but both EME and Johnsbod saw great results with it.

Trick D · 02-14-2006, 02:13 PM

I knew EME took it during his cutting cycle I do believe... I was just curious about it, and since SNS had a very cheap one... I thought about jumping on it.

**skelooth** · 02-14-2006, 02:41 PM

I had fantastic results running it as a standalone multiple times. Definitely one of my favorite supplements. The sides are kinda harsh on me though...

There is no better "natural test booster" imo. And it melts estrogenic fat off in under a week.

ersatz · 02-18-2006, 05:15 AM

It seems hit or miss as a standalone but it's cheap so why not give it a shot? It does bring up a dilemma though as to whether one can take it and still be considered a natty bber.

htxred · 02-18-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by skelooth

I had fantastic results running it as a standalone multiple times. Definitely one of my favorite supplements. The sides are kinda harsh on me though...

There is no better "natural test booster" imo. And it melts estrogenic fat off in under a week.

like?

**skelooth** · 02-18-2006, 04:40 PM

estrogenic fat: Man boobs and hips. Whenever I take ATD my hips get shredded and vascular, which has the cool side effect of making my belt size smaller.

The sides: low/squashed/non existant libido.... and achey joints.

The fantastic results= strength gains while cutting, no visible/apparant muscle loss.

htxred · 02-18-2006, 05:30 PM

Trick D · 02-18-2006, 05:58 PM

I'll be taking FUZE with it as an added testosterone booster with creatine, taurine, etc.

**EME** · 02-18-2006, 06:04 PM

I used Gaspari's product, Novedex XT, during the last 3 weeks or so before my show last August.

It feel like really helped me lean up and dry out by lowering estrogen and reducing estrogen related water retention.

I didn't use it for any extended period of time though, just a few weeks.

- EME

pu12en12g · 02-18-2006, 06:29 PM

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**sns8778** · 02-19-2006, 07:50 PM

I have heard really good results on ATD as a stand alone. I think the sides such as the loss of libido vary greatly from person to person.

Trick D · 02-19-2006, 08:12 PM

Good I got some of your stuff coming to me as we speak!

**skelooth** · 02-19-2006, 08:34 PM

sides are also greatly dependent on dose. at 75mg or higher ED i feel like my joints are brittle and I'm completely limp.... but my libido seems to be very sensitive to ATD

**EME** · 02-19-2006, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sns8778

I have heard really good results on ATD as a stand alone. I think the sides such as the loss of libido vary greatly from person to person.

I did not experience any sides from the product.

- EME

**skelooth** · 02-19-2006, 09:35 PM

how much were you taking EME? I usually take it 4 weeks at a time starting at 75mg and tapering down.... and it only takes me a few days before I bitching and moaning about my aching joints

**EME** · 02-19-2006, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by skelooth

how much were you taking EME? I usually take it 4 weeks at a time starting at 75mg and tapering down.... and it only takes me a few days before I bitching and moaning about my aching joints

I took 3 caps per day of Novedex XT for the last 20 days before my show.

I didn't have any aching joints or any other sides.

- EME

htxred · 02-20-2006, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EME

I took 3 caps per day of Novedex XT for the last 20 days before my show.

I didn't have any aching joints or any other sides.

- EME

me dos. cept the show part.

02-14-2006, 02:41 PM	#4
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,205 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	I had fantastic results running it as a standalone multiple times. Definitely one of my favorite supplements. The sides are kinda harsh on me though... There is no better "natural test booster" imo. And it melts estrogenic fat off in under a week. __________________ R I P

02-18-2006, 04:40 PM	#7
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,205 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	estrogenic fat: Man boobs and hips. Whenever I take ATD my hips get shredded and vascular, which has the cool side effect of making my belt size smaller. The sides: low/squashed/non existant libido.... and achey joints. The fantastic results= strength gains while cutting, no visible/apparant muscle loss. __________________ R I P

02-18-2006, 05:30 PM	#8
htxred Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: houston Posts: 227 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	eh.

02-18-2006, 06:04 PM	#10
EME Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,265 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 51	I used Gaspari's product, Novedex XT, during the last 3 weeks or so before my show last August. It feel like really helped me lean up and dry out by lowering estrogen and reducing estrogen related water retention. I didn't use it for any extended period of time though, just a few weeks. - EME __________________ PhysiqueFXonline - Online Nutrition and Training with Michael and Kendra Elias: www.MichaelandKendra.com Team Molecular Nutrition Creative Director FAME Media Group / World Natural Sports Organization Editor-In-Chief FAME Magazine www.FAMEWorldTour.com

02-19-2006, 07:50 PM	#12
sns8778 Forum Sponsor Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 95 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	I have heard really good results on ATD as a stand alone. I think the sides such as the loss of libido vary greatly from person to person. __________________ Serious Nutrition Solutions - steve@seriousnutritionsolutions.com Serious Nutrition Solution's Primary Goals: Providing: 1. Top Quality Products 2. The Best Customer Service in the Industry 3. Products that are Cost Effective to the Consumer

02-18-2006, 05:15 AM	#5
ersatz Amateur Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 48 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	It seems hit or miss as a standalone but it's cheap so why not give it a shot? It does bring up a dilemma though as to whether one can take it and still be considered a natty bber.

02-18-2006, 06:29 PM	#11
pu12en12g Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 258 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 7	Check out Formestane bulk powder

02-19-2006, 08:34 PM	#14
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,205 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	sides are also greatly dependent on dose. at 75mg or higher ED i feel like my joints are brittle and I'm completely limp.... but my libido seems to be very sensitive to ATD __________________ R I P

02-19-2006, 09:35 PM	#16
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,205 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	how much were you taking EME? I usually take it 4 weeks at a time starting at 75mg and tapering down.... and it only takes me a few days before I bitching and moaning about my aching joints __________________ R I P

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