l DaChOsEnOnE l

Well I am 16 years old and I have been workout out hard for about a year now I have taken CEE and Creatine Monohydrate. My diet is very good and I get the proper Traning I am Planing On takin ActivaTE,ATD(small dose),mayb CEE I know alot of people dont recomend this for my age so feel free to post any other staks that you feel will work good and please dont say eat good and diet and training cuase I have done taht for the last year. And money is not an issue when it come to supplements

madman911

At your age, I would stay away completely from anything that modulates testosterone levels. Your body is still in the process of figuring out where to set your baseline hormone levels and increasing your test levels artificially can result in your baseline natural test level being set very low. Your body will interpret your artificially high test levels as being more than it requires and set your normal test production very low. This is why you shouldn't mess with anything hormonal until you are 21 and your basal test levels are relatively stable. You can end up on hormone replacement therapy for the rest of your life if you risk it.

Stick with creatine, whey, BCAA and that's all you really need at your age to make great gains.

Why do you feel the need to use something hormonal? If your gains have stopped after a year of training at your age, then (even though you said not to go here) I would suggest looking at your diet or training program as the culprits.

l DaChOsEnOnE l

What kind of creatine would you recomend and thanks for the reply

madman911

Creatine monohydrate is very inexpensive and works for most people. To feel the effects, you should load for 1 week at 20g/day, then go to a 5g-10g/day maintenance dose. Best time to take the stuff is post-workout with some dextrose or another simple carb to maximize absorption.

CEE is more expensive, but it works for some people who don't feel anything with monohydrate. Also, it doesn't require a loading phase. Just take 5g before you work out.

You've used them before, so maybe you already knew all of this, but I figured I'd offer the info anyway.

Basically, use whichever one give you the best feeling and result. I actually use both. Not at the same time, but every couple of months I switch it up. I also take a month off completely once in a while.

l DaChOsEnOnE l

thanks again madman idk I already tried CEE and CM and I had very good results but they stopped idk im still thinking about what I want to do

PROD1GY

I dont see why ActivaTe would be a problem..
As Sublimijeh pointed out, it doesnt BOOST test.
It takes total test and converts it into free test...
Then you run Rebound XT, which is used to boost test because low estrogen means higher test output i'm guessing in hopes that your body converts it.
BUT we already have high test, so ActivaTe should put it to good use, no?
I would take some small anti-estrogen like 25mg of ATD or like 2-300mg of 6-OXO which Ergopharm even said is ok for underaged to use it, just to avoid problems like gyno or whatever.
Also, ActivaTe converts for like 3 hours or so, so you take 4 caps a day, which means for 12 hours out of 24 your test is being pulled towards your advantage.

l DaChOsEnOnE l

Nice to see someone on my side what you guys think about what prod1gy said

PROD1GY

Yeah bitches

skelooth

I think it would be a VERY bad move on your part if you take NHA (wether it be ATD or Activate), it would be very bad if you take ANYTHING that effects your endocrine system at this part of your life and development.

Both ATD and Activate can have an impact on the HPTA and you could very well set yourself up for pitifully low testosterone levels as an adult. You are playing with fire.

At your age you should NOT be taking these thing. We are not recommending against it because you're a "child", we are recommending against it because you can SERIOUSLY MESS YOURSELF UP FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. If that is a risk you want to take for something that isn't going to do much for you to begin with... then perhaps you need to reprioritize.

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PROD1GY

i SERIOUSLY think that is an overexaggeration.
I mean, kids run prohormones, and the reason they **** up is because of using them IMPROPERLY.
This just rearranges your hormones..

What do you guys think of running Tribulus/Diesel Test/Blue Up and other test boosters?

skelooth

Those are non hormonal as far as I know. ATD is a STEROIDAL aromatase inhibitor.

And no, I don't think any minor should be using any sort of testosterone booster or any other supplement which may or may not affect the endocrine system.

a) There is no need to boost testosterone at that age. Seriously.
b) You are risking LIFE LONG damage

If you think the risk of life long damage is over exaggerated I really don't know how to respond.

Exactly, they use them while they are still in puberty and permanently set themselves up for low test levels. There is a reason why there are age warnings on the bottles, and why everyone who knows about them kicks and screams when minors want to use them. Prohormones are STEROIDS.

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l DaChOsEnOnE l

Soo many people think its soo bad why dont you start posting up some stacks that are safe but very effective

skelooth

multi vitamin, fish oil. <~ The ultimate stack, especially at your age. I'm not being a dick because you're young, I'm being a dick because I'm honest. You don't need anything else bro.

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uhockey

It'd be great if someone just banned him.

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SoMdHunter

I have the perfect supplements for someone that is 17 yrs old. Here is the secret to building massive amounts of muscle.

Food:
Steaks, chicken, fish, fresh vegatables and fruits

Routine:
Lift heavy ass weights with all the intensity you have

Rest:
At least 8hrs a night, and leave the damn booze alone.

Repeat daily for 2 years. If you hold true to this, you will have a great start to the body you want (yours and the female version!)

Lesson: At 17, your test levels are high as hell. Take advantage of it, eat properly and lift like hell. You don't know how lucky you have it right now.

I WISH I was 17 again!

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jkeithc82

It is about to happen uhockey.

MAxx, there will be NO MORE RECOMMENDATIONS OR THE LIKE FROM YOU REGARDING PH'S/PS'S OR ANYTHING ELSE IN GENERAL THAT SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN BY PERSONS UNDER 18.

You have been publically warned.

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