New ultra Hotter by alri??

nickhead76 · 08-08-2005, 06:25 PM

i see sup kings now carries this product, does anyone have an opinion either way about this stuff? im very interested, but didnt they have some kind of problem the first time?? thanx for any opinions or info.

nickhead76 · 08-08-2005, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nickhead76

i see sup kings now carries this product, does anyone have an opinion either way about this stuff? im very interested, but didnt they have some kind of problem the first time?? thanx for any opinions or info.

wow, the more info i find on this stuff the more im NOT interested. there is alot of mixed feelings and opinions of this stuff.

**Ikaika** · 08-09-2005, 03:40 AM

I think the ridiculous name turned me off to it faster than whats in it

THEKING · 08-09-2005, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ikaika

I think the ridiculous name turned me off to it faster than whats in it

Actually the write up on it is very interesting. I hope the negative feelings are not because it is methylated LOL. Otherwise we all better stop taking in caffiene lol.

Robboe · 08-09-2005, 11:26 AM

I'm still not sure why they thought they needed to try and improve the oral bioavailability of ATD, which already produces quite dramatic results at low intakes (25-75mg/day).

I woudn't use it for PCT until i'd ran it as a stand-alone to assess how it effects me and whether it actually works. I don't see much interest in it myself, but real-world results will dictate its success.

It just appears as though they've realised the ATD market is becoming more competitive and so need some form of product differentiation. People tend to like "new" stuff, so for the first few months it probably won't matter whether it works or not.

Beast · 08-09-2005, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Robboe

I'm still not sure why they thought they needed to try and improve the oral bioavailability of ATD, which already produces quite dramatic results at low intakes (25-75mg/day).

It just appears as though they've realised the ATD market is becoming more competitive and so need some form of product differentiation. People tend to like "new" stuff, so for the first few months it probably won't matter whether it works or not.

Robboe is very wise :bigthumbu

nickhead76 · 08-09-2005, 08:15 PM

i was reading a thread over at bb.com about atd by ironpimper, the guy seems to know his stuff. but then again i believe most of what i read (not a good trait). and he said this is a very good supp for pct. he claims its alot better than nolvadex and clomid.

DarkFalcon · 08-09-2005, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nickhead76

i was reading a thread over at bb.com about atd by ironpimper, the guy seems to know his stuff. but then again i believe most of what i read (not a good trait). and he said this is a very good supp for pct. he claims its alot better than nolvadex and clomid.

Better then nolva and clomid? That I find hard to believe.

Robboe · 08-10-2005, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nickhead76

i was reading a thread over at bb.com about atd by ironpimper, the guy seems to know his stuff. but then again i believe most of what i read (not a good trait). and he said this is a very good supp for pct. he claims its alot better than nolvadex and clomid.

IronPimper said it was a good PCT supp? Where is this?

nickhead76 · 08-10-2005, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Robboe

IronPimper said it was a good PCT supp? Where is this?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=526986

maybe i should rephrase that bro. he says that an atd is good for pct and thats what this is. althougth i did pm him to get his opinion directly on this stuff and he doesnt like this new ultra hotter because its methylated.

Ghosting · 08-10-2005, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Robboe

I'm still not sure why they thought they needed to try and improve the oral bioavailability of ATD, which already produces quite dramatic results at low intakes (25-75mg/day).

I thought ATD by itself had poor b.v. Hence the methylaztion of it. What gives Robboe? Is ALR fibbing again? I thought BK said the samething. ALR said the BV was 3, which seemed too low (for the results people are having from this), but nobody challenged him, so I believed it.

Robboe · 08-10-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nickhead76

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=526986

maybe i should rephrase that bro. he says that an atd is good for pct and thats what this is. althougth i did pm him to get his opinion directly on this stuff and he doesnt like this new ultra hotter because its methylated.

Ultra Hotter isn't mentioned in that thread that i could find.

It's confusing, but "Ultra Hot" and "Ultra Hotter" are two different products.

Ultra Hot = ATD product with some other stuff.

Ultra Hotter = methylated ATD analogue product that a lot of people are rather suspect about.

Robboe · 08-10-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghosting

I thought ATD by itself had poor b.v. Hence the methylaztion of it. What gives Robboe? Is ALR fibbing again? I thought BK said the samething. ALR said the BV was 3, which seemed too low (for the results people are having from this), but nobody challenged him, so I believed it.

Even if the oral bioavailability of ATD is 3% (a figure given by Author L Rea the day before he released his new PCT product), who cares? The results of those using ATD are excellent, even on doses between 25-75mg/day. That is a very low dose for excellent results. I have no idea whether the 3% figure is real or where he got it from.

There was no need to try and make ATD better by methylating an analogue. Real-world results will have to dictate whether this is any good, cause on paper it doesn't look it.

Ghosting · 08-10-2005, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Robboe

Even if the oral bioavailability of ATD is 3% (a figure given by Author L Rea the day before he released his new PCT product), who cares? The results of those using ATD are excellent, even on doses between 25-75mg/day. That is a very low dose for excellent results. I have no idea whether the 3% figure is real or where he got it from.

There was no need to try and make ATD better by methylating an analogue. Real-world results will have to dictate whether this is any good, cause on paper it doesn't look it.

Im starting to believe ALR is a krafty son of a gun, and I am one of the sheeple.

nickhead76 · 08-10-2005, 09:01 PM

correct me if im wrong but rebound xt is an atd correct, and many people have been very happy with this product???

like i said before, youll have to forgive my ignorance but ive been out of the supp. game for a while. for me its always been nolvadex and my last aas cycle the 2 , nolva and clomid. its just that i have a terrible time with recovery and im looking for a great product to help out. thanx.

Ghosting · 08-10-2005, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nickhead76

correct me if im wrong but rebound xt is an atd correct, and many people have been very happy with this product???

Yes. I cant believe I believed the hype without seeing any type of blood work to verify methylating ATD was more effective. Me-->:boink:

Robboe · 08-11-2005, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nickhead76

correct me if im wrong but rebound xt is an atd correct, and many people have been very happy with this product???

like i said before, youll have to forgive my ignorance but ive been out of the supp. game for a while. for me its always been nolvadex and my last aas cycle the 2 , nolva and clomid. its just that i have a terrible time with recovery and im looking for a great product to help out. thanx.

It's plausbile that it will help you, but if you've "always" had a problem with recovery, then you may want to look into stuff you can take year-round to aid recovery. ATD needs cycling off every 8-12 weeks for good 4-8 weeks (estrogen suppression begins to **** up cholesterol long-term).

Look into cell volumisers.

08-08-2005, 06:25 PM	#1
nickhead76 PLATINUM MEMBER Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 283 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 8	New ultra Hotter by alri?? i see sup kings now carries this product, does anyone have an opinion either way about this stuff? im very interested, but didnt they have some kind of problem the first time?? thanx for any opinions or info. __________________ PLATINUM MEMBER

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Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,899 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 221	I think the ridiculous name turned me off to it faster than whats in it __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

08-09-2005, 11:26 AM	#5
Robboe Amateur Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 0 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	I'm still not sure why they thought they needed to try and improve the oral bioavailability of ATD, which already produces quite dramatic results at low intakes (25-75mg/day). I woudn't use it for PCT until i'd ran it as a stand-alone to assess how it effects me and whether it actually works. I don't see much interest in it myself, but real-world results will dictate its success. It just appears as though they've realised the ATD market is becoming more competitive and so need some form of product differentiation. People tend to like "new" stuff, so for the first few months it probably won't matter whether it works or not. __________________ www.DesignerSupps.com Robboe@DesignerSupps.com

08-09-2005, 08:15 PM	#7
nickhead76 PLATINUM MEMBER Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 283 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 8	i was reading a thread over at bb.com about atd by ironpimper, the guy seems to know his stuff. but then again i believe most of what i read (not a good trait). and he said this is a very good supp for pct. he claims its alot better than nolvadex and clomid. __________________ PLATINUM MEMBER

08-10-2005, 09:01 PM	#15
nickhead76 PLATINUM MEMBER Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 283 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 8	correct me if im wrong but rebound xt is an atd correct, and many people have been very happy with this product??? like i said before, youll have to forgive my ignorance but ive been out of the supp. game for a while. for me its always been nolvadex and my last aas cycle the 2 , nolva and clomid. its just that i have a terrible time with recovery and im looking for a great product to help out. thanx. __________________ PLATINUM MEMBER

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