swoll

Ok, ive been doing my research and have came to a few questions regarding my supplement intake. I have been lifting for a month and my goal is to bulk up. This last month I just ate right and took whey, but now Im planning on stepping up the intensity. I am going to lift for 5 days now instead of 3 and want to start on some of the essential supplements. I am planning on getting some more whey protein, creatine mono, L glutamine, and flax. I understand that it wouldnt be beneficial to mix the glutamine and the creatine because they are competing for the same place in the body, but what im asking is what would be the best way to intake all of these each day? What should i take in the morning, day, and evening to achieve maximum results. Any comment or advice is open and greatly appreciated. Thanks

THEKING

Swoll,

Why are you choosing mono instead of CEE if I may ask?

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swoll

Should i be using CEE? Like i said im relatively new and am open to any advice, tutoring, comments that anyone may have. Thanks

THEKING

Yea I believe CEE is fine for you. I think other than that you are good to go! Well...you do need a good multi in there as well.

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swoll

What is the best brand of CEE to use? Capsule or powder? and where is the best place to get supplements online? Thanks

warriors

Omega's Cre-ethyl thunder is getting amazing feedback and Bulk CEE is also good.

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crazycacti

what is wrong with creapure mono + a high GI sugar such as dextose PWO along with ur why protein???

If its dissloved properly, nothing.

IMO stick with creapure mono and take 5g PWO

You can take glutamine PWO fine too...

Morning: 5-10g glutamine

PWO: 5-10g glutamine + 5 g creatine + 60-80g high GI carb + 30-50g whey

Before bed: 5-10g glutamine

Many ppl say glutamine is worthless in an oral form but IMO thats a myth

Why take flax when concentrated fish oils are 100 times better too??

Also i'd stick to ur 3 day split

chris2489

Yeah bulk CEE is the best, check out my sig.

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warriors

Yea i was using bulk nutritions

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swoll

I was checking ***********.com and cant seem to find any bulk CEE is it the same as Creatine Ethyl Ester HCL? Also, if i was to buy my protein and creatine from there what would give me the best results? Thanks

Hacking is a Felony

swoll,
yes it's the same. Click here for links to places to buy bulk CEE. Bulk Nutrition currently has the best deal, $34.99 for a kilo.

MurphMan

Why is fish oil 100 times better than flax?

FYI, CEE does not cause extra cellular water retention like regular mono.

swoll

Thanks for all the help. Another question, is there a specific whey brand or powder that is better than another? With all the choices its hard to decide the best. Any input is welcome. Thanks

MurphMan

Just make sure it's 100% whey protein, preferably whey concentrate if you can stomache it. Some people get a little stomache discomfort if they are lactose sensitive.

You can spend alot of $ on fancy blends, but the bottom line is that protein is pretty much protein. I use Optimum Nutrition's 100% Whey, their Pro Complex (expensive) their Anabolic Milk and their Micellar Casein protein powders. The casein stuff is really thick and doesn't taste all that great.

crazycacti

Improves delivery of oxygen to muscles.
Improved aerobic metabolism.
Improved release of growth hormone in response to exercise.
Reduction of inflammation.
Inflammation prevention.
Blatently plageurised from 'Nutrition for Serious Athletes' by Dan Benardot Phd.

Also is good for depression.
Eicasinoid production.
prostate health.

I have seen a few articles recently about flax oil increasing estrogen levels too.

Flax oil is not the right ratio and is missing all sorts of key elements, plus you would need almost 10 times the amount to exert the effect that fish oils provide.

flax is fine for those who live where its over 100 degrees every freaking day and they dont own a refrigerator (ice box) to store fish oils in, BUT you will need extra ala (r-ala) to convert it to what you need and even then its not near as effective






'The optimal intake of LA compared with ALA appears critical for the metabolism of omega-3 fatty acids. An increase in AA, EPA, and DHA leads to an increase in membrane fluidity, alters the structure of the membrane receptors, and can have other beneficial effects associated with the omega-3 fatty acids. They also play a role in the regulation of cell surface expression, cell-cell interactions, and cytokine release.10 A ratio of 1:4 (LA:ALA) or less is recommended for conversion of ALA to longer chain metabolites (EPA and DHA).9 This is an important concept for vegetarians, whose diets are often much richer in LA. The intake of 3 grams per day to 4 grams per day of ALA is equivalent to 0.3 grams per day of EPA with optimal elongation. (This means you need 10 times as much flax to get the same benefits as fish aka 120g of flax oil or an additional 1000 calories of flax in order to match the benefits of just 12g of fish oils aka 108 calories added... follow????)

ALA(from flax) does not appear to be comparable with its biological effects, compared with EPA and DHA found in fish oil. It appears that the EPA and DHA from marine oils are more rapidly incorporated into plasma and membrane lipids. Algae and some fungi are also capable of forming omega-3 fatty acids de novo, and the DHA from algae supplements needs to be explored further '

http://www.regimenx.com/

MurphMan

Hmmm, I really don't follow the pasted article you posted. But, from what I can gather...I'm in the clear since I supplement with K-R-ALA.

swoll

What about a multi vitamin? Do people usually buy one over the counter at a grocery store or something or do they order it offline? What brands or types are the best? Thanks

crazycacti

The pasted article at the end is from the 'alchemy' book from the linked site

IMO its a must read...

if flax works for you keep at it (if anything works stay with it until it doesn't then re-assess)

IMO and many others and medical research fish oils are a superior option

crazycacti

what brand do u use as well ??

out of interest....

swoll

does anybody have a bulk nutrition discount code? it would be greatly appreciated. thanks

DarkFalcon

Jameson makes high quality vit's. I get the Level 3 daily multi. It's reasonably priced.

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Health Benefits of Fish Oils

Summaries of the latest research concerning the health benefits of fish oils

Fish oil versus flax oil
BETHESDA, MARYLAND. There is considerable evidence that fish and fish oils are beneficial to heart health, reduce the risk of cancer, and benefit mental health. The "active" components of fish oils are eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA), a polyunsaturated fatty acid with 20 carbon atoms in its backbone, and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA), a polyunsaturated fatty acid with 22 carbon atoms. Both are members of the omega-3 group of essential fatty acids. EPA and DHA are found exclusively in marine animals; fatty fish such as herring, sardines, salmon and fresh tuna are the best sources.
Alpha-linolenic acid (ALA) is another omega-3 fatty acid found in flaxseed and flaxseed oil. ALA has 18 carbon atoms in its backbone and can be converted to EPA in the body (in the liver) by the addition of two carbon atoms. EPA, in turn, can be converted to DHA. Because the typical American diet is relatively low in fish intake ALA becomes a crucial source of the EPA and DHA required for optimum health.
Researchers at the National Institutes of Health have just completed a study designed to determine just how much ALA is actually converted to EPA in the body. Their study included eight healthy subjects who were fed a standard diet for three weeks and then given one gram of ALA labeled with an isotope tracer. The diet was beef-based in order to avoid extraneous sources of EPA and DHA. The researchers measured blood plasma concentrations of ALA, EPA and DHA 8, 24, 48, 72, 96 and 168 hours after ingestion of the labeled ALA.
The results show that only about 0.2 per cent of the ALA (2 mg) was actually converted to EPA. In contrast, about 23 per cent of the EPA was available for conversion to DHA. The researchers also noted that the half-life (the time it takes to reduce initial concentration by 50 per cent) of ALA in blood plasma was quite low at about one hour. In comparison, the half-life of EPA was 67 hours and that of DHA 20 hours.
The researchers conclude that ALA is not a viable source of EPA and DHA and cannot replace fish and fish oils in the diet. Editor's Note: According to this new data a tablespoon of flax oil would only result in the synthesis of about 30 mg of EPA – far less than the recommended daily intake of 220 mg.
Pawlosky, Robert J. Physiological compartmental analysis of alpha-linoleni