EzyRyder

Now, I don't know a whole lot about supplements; I never have. To clarify, thermogenic supplements is in theory supposed to raise your body temperature to help metabolize fat more effeciently?

DarkFalcon

Basically Thermo's work by increasing your body's core temp. In order to increase ones temp the body burns more cals. I don't think it improves fat metabolization. I may be wrong.

EzyRyder

Well yea, I worded it wrong...

Ikaika

Thermogenics increase your basal caloric expenditure, and in doing so create a larger caloric deficit when you're cutting. They don't necessarily target fat, but the reason you drop fat when you use them is a simple caloric deficit.

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romanaz

some of the "new" generation fat burners "target" fat and release it into the blood stream, but the main purpose of all of them is to increase temp.

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EzyRyder

Well, I was thinking: If all they do is basically up your body temp. coulden't I do that naturally? I mean wear a hoodie all day, drink my hot green tea, basically run a hell house, and be hot all the time. I don't know, I had it so I could explain this all better, but hell, I'm 16 so whatever

Ikaika

You're describing something different than what thermogenics do.

Thermos cause your body to generate excess heat by way of burning more calories. What you described is trapping heat you normally generate in the hopes of that causing more calories to be burned as a result, which is not the case.

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EzyRyder

I told you I know nothing about supplements.

ptest

Yeah you will do nothing but dehydrate yourself and sweat your brains out with that idea.
I have mentioned them before and have tried them and they work great, thermo cuts from optimum work great and dont give you that crash....I always throw in green tea extract which worked great when i dieted for Jr Nationals in 2005, Lean Tea Complex carries that and other blends of tea and they have lots of antioxidants.

Ikaika

I've used Scivation's Lean Green and liked it well enough.

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EzyRyder

Safe for my "brother who is 16"?

Ikaika

Green tea extract? I don't see why not...what are the quotes supposed to mean?

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EzyRyder

Thermogneics I thought we were talking... Dude, I'm so fuggen out of it today...

Ikaika

You shouldn't be worrying about thermos at 16. You need to learn to manipulate your body through diet and training before you can start with the supplements.

If you don't know how to diet you can take all the thermos in the world and you still won't get shredded.

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EzyRyder

This I know. I didn't know what Lean Green was though.