danman77220

Before anyone says it, yes, I know diet and training are far more important than supplementation. I have that all planned out and can stay on track. I'm not completely ignorant.

What is the best fat burner? Money isn't really an issue, I'm just going to go through a bottle of something, maybe 4-6 weeks worth or supplementation.

I've heard good things about Venom Hyperdrive 3.0, and I can get it over the counter at a store near me. However, what about the stim-free version? And I'm getting a sample of Leviathan by Palo Alto labs... how would it compare?

Any help/suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.

-Dan

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Stats(/goals):
Age: 18
Weight: 193
BF%: 19%/8%

Max Lifts
B: Poop
S: Pee
D:

Status: Gaining back strength and size after tonsillectomy

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Midnight_Lifter

Venom Hyperdrive is one of the few things that has worked for me personally. I have not tried the non-stim version... did not know there was one.

There is some interesting stuff out there. I was looking at ordering some Hyperdrive myself, and was going to do a quick summary of stuff on the market before I did... You can't go wrong with Hyperdrive in my opinion.

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stonecoldtruth

As far as stimulants:
Venom
Scorch
Leviathan

Non-stimulants:
Melting Point
Sesamin

Thyroid Enhancers:
Dicana
Thyrotabs

SCT

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romanaz

I've used Biotest Hot Rox Extreme, and there is nothing bad to say about it. If my BF% tests were correct during the cut, I lost 3% bf and only 3lbs. I didn't get jittery or anything, and its not that expensive if you buy from bb.com

I've heard good things from Leviathan, I'm hoping to run a log of that soon.

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Best in Competition:
Snatch : 70kg
Clean and Jerk : 85kg
Total : 155kg

Best in Training:
Snatch : 67kg
Clean and Jerk : 90kg

Goals by end of Summer:
Snatch : 80kg
Clean and Jerk : 100kg



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DarkFalcon

I had great success with Melting Point/Basic cut's stack. We are going to get Melting Point and Leviathan stack for Dnyc99 so we'll let you know how that goes. I just started MP/BC today again.