Ephedrine/Creatine

**BobThePotato** · 09-04-2005, 04:58 AM

I have read that combining ephedrine and creatine was a bad idea, but i have just come across some more reading material that says it is a good idea becuase ephedrine increases cellular uptake. this is me = confused.

~~Hacking is a Felony~~ · 09-04-2005, 06:11 AM

I've never read that it helps to increase cellular uptake. You have a link to that article?

I've used creatine while taking an ephedra based burner in the past .. if you choose to use both just remember to stay well hydrated.

**EME** · 09-04-2005, 04:23 PM

I also have never read anything saying Ephedrine helps with cellular uptake.
That would definitely be news.

However, I have successfully used Ephedrine and Creatine together for years.
I have seen NO adverse effects from using the two together.

- EME

**skelooth** · 09-04-2005, 04:26 PM

I mix everything. Supplement now, research later!

**BobThePotato** · 09-04-2005, 07:01 PM

I read it in CME (Chemical Muscular Enhancment)

**Pioneer** · 09-04-2005, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skelooth

I mix everything. Supplement now, research later!

haha, nice.

maybe you should give it a one time try, see if you develope and side effects from it. if you do stopp immediately if not continue with it.

chlaxman · 09-04-2005, 07:45 PM

I have mixed them together in the past without any problems, but I have also read quite a bit on reasons not to take them together.

**EME** · 09-04-2005, 08:31 PM

I often find that theory, and real world effects don't always turn out to be equal.

This is not to say that you shouldn't read and learn as much as you can.. but listen to practical experience from a reputable source, over someones theory of what should happen, when it really comes down to it.

I've also read in several places that aspirin doesn't help the E-C stack, unless you are obese.

I have definitely found that the addition of Aspirin to my E-C stack has made a huge difference in it's effectiveness as part of my competition cutting diets. Another case where my experience doesn't match the theory I've read in certain articles.

I think you need to absorb what you read and apply it to your training methodologies to determine what works best for you. In my experience, what's good or what works well for one person, doesn't always apply equally to someone else.

- EME

**BobThePotato** · 09-05-2005, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EME

I often find that theory, and real world effects don't always turn out to be equal.

This is not to say that you shouldn't read and learn as much as you can.. but listen to practical experience from a reputable source, over someones theory of what should happen, when it really comes down to it.

I've also read in several places that aspirin doesn't help the E-C stack, unless you are obese.

I have definitely found that the addition of Aspirin to my E-C stack has made a huge difference in it's effectiveness as part of my competition cutting diets. Another case where my experience doesn't match the theory I've read in certain articles.

I think you need to absorb what you read and apply it to your training methodologies to determine what works best for you. In my experience, what's good or what works well for one person, doesn't always apply equally to someone else.

- EME

so in other words you have know idea lol

**EME** · 09-05-2005, 03:22 AM

I think a better way to put it is, read and learn all you can, but "Don't believe everything you read"

- EME

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobThePotato

so in other words you have know idea lol

canadabboy · 09-06-2005, 05:33 PM

Well creatine is supposed to hydrate your muscles and make you retain more water (ideally in your muscles). A diuretic makes you drop water that you are retaining, so theoretically a diuretic would be a bad idea while taking creatine. I don't know if ephedrine is much of a diuretic but caffeine is.

09-04-2005, 04:58 AM	#1
BobThePotato Nublarsaurusrex Join Date: May 2005 Location: Calgary//Alberta Posts: 513 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 21	Ephedrine/Creatine I have read that combining ephedrine and creatine was a bad idea, but i have just come across some more reading material that says it is a good idea becuase ephedrine increases cellular uptake. this is me = confused. __________________ "Geadelt ist wer Schmerzen kennt vom Feuer das in Lust verbrennt."

09-04-2005, 04:23 PM	#3
EME Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,265 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 51	I also have never read anything saying Ephedrine helps with cellular uptake. That would definitely be news. However, I have successfully used Ephedrine and Creatine together for years. I have seen NO adverse effects from using the two together. - EME __________________ PhysiqueFXonline - Online Nutrition and Training with Michael and Kendra Elias: www.MichaelandKendra.com Team Molecular Nutrition Creative Director FAME Media Group / World Natural Sports Organization Editor-In-Chief FAME Magazine www.FAMEWorldTour.com

09-04-2005, 04:26 PM	#4
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,205 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	I mix everything. Supplement now, research later! __________________ R I P

09-04-2005, 07:01 PM	#5
BobThePotato Nublarsaurusrex Join Date: May 2005 Location: Calgary//Alberta Posts: 513 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 21	I read it in CME (Chemical Muscular Enhancment) __________________ "Geadelt ist wer Schmerzen kennt vom Feuer das in Lust verbrennt."

09-04-2005, 07:45 PM	#7
chlaxman Pro Stature Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine baby Posts: 560 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 9	I have mixed them together in the past without any problems, but I have also read quite a bit on reasons not to take them together. __________________ Tempora mutantur, et nos mutamur in illis. :weight_li :dumbells: :bed2: :friday:

09-04-2005, 06:11 AM	#2
~~Hacking is a Felony~~ I destroy property Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,105 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	I've never read that it helps to increase cellular uptake. You have a link to that article? I've used creatine while taking an ephedra based burner in the past .. if you choose to use both just remember to stay well hydrated.

09-04-2005, 08:31 PM	#8
EME Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,265 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 51	I often find that theory, and real world effects don't always turn out to be equal. This is not to say that you shouldn't read and learn as much as you can.. but listen to practical experience from a reputable source, over someones theory of what should happen, when it really comes down to it. I've also read in several places that aspirin doesn't help the E-C stack, unless you are obese. I have definitely found that the addition of Aspirin to my E-C stack has made a huge difference in it's effectiveness as part of my competition cutting diets. Another case where my experience doesn't match the theory I've read in certain articles. I think you need to absorb what you read and apply it to your training methodologies to determine what works best for you. In my experience, what's good or what works well for one person, doesn't always apply equally to someone else. - EME __________________ PhysiqueFXonline - Online Nutrition and Training with Michael and Kendra Elias: www.MichaelandKendra.com Team Molecular Nutrition Creative Director FAME Media Group / World Natural Sports Organization Editor-In-Chief FAME Magazine www.FAMEWorldTour.com

09-06-2005, 05:33 PM	#11
canadabboy Amateur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Well creatine is supposed to hydrate your muscles and make you retain more water (ideally in your muscles). A diuretic makes you drop water that you are retaining, so theoretically a diuretic would be a bad idea while taking creatine. I don't know if ephedrine is much of a diuretic but caffeine is.

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