Best WeightGainer?

**DJSTARER** · 03-22-2007, 05:13 AM

Hey everyone. I've been looking around for a quality high calorie supplement, but all I can find are ones that are high i sugars and define their complex carbs as Maltodextrine. Doesn't anyone make their gainers with like... dehydrated startch or something?

I'm looking for a quick, yet POTENT breakfast in the morning. I know there are a lot of recipes for homemade ones, but I don't really have the time or resources for that in the morning. I've decided I would rather just supplement it with a gainer of some sort.

Any faves or experiences with gainers high in healthy fat and starches? If there are truly none of these available.... someone could make a killing developing one... IMO.

**romanaz** · 03-22-2007, 05:15 AM

all i can say is stay away from cytogainer.. unless u want some i can sell u 4lbs :-d

**DarkFalcon** · 03-22-2007, 05:29 AM

I've never seen one myself. Weight gainers are great at making you fat.

**Succio** · 03-22-2007, 05:41 AM

i have roughly 12 pounds of cytogainer lol

but their choc mint is damn good, look into it. Other than that, i think weight gainers are shit.

**Ikaika** · 03-22-2007, 01:27 PM

I agree that Cytogainer is probably the least of all evils when it comes to weight gainers. I wouldn't go so far as to say Cytogainer tastes good, but it is definitely tolerable and it fed me many times sitting up at GNC when I ran out of chicken and rice.

It has real low sugar, which is the biggest upshot I see to using it versus pretty much any other gainer.

**romanaz** · 03-22-2007, 01:51 PM

which tastes worse? casein thats chalky as hell or cytogainer cookies n' cream?

cytogainer for the lose!!!

**Midnight_Lifter** · 03-22-2007, 02:35 PM

I've never used it, but MHP has UpYourMass that I recall as being worth a look if I ever went down that road.

Universal Nutrition just released Torrent, which is more of a post workout supp, but it has waxy maize starch and some other goodies for your carbs... I think most of the PWO recovery agents would be wasted if you are taking Torrent as a gainer, but it might be worth looking into.

Question: Would it be entirely bad to chug an MRP or an extra scoop of whey along with your breakfast? Avg MRP = ~250 cals, 35-45g protein.

Or, space it out and have a shake an hour after your "regular" breakfast...

**DJSTARER** · 03-22-2007, 03:22 PM

actually, i'd switch that. I'd do the supp first, then real breakfast. The BV and digestion speed of a supp is generally higher than whole food.

Thanks for the responses guys. I believe someone can make a killing developing a healthy gainer.

**Ikaika** · 03-22-2007, 04:11 PM

What kinds of things would you like to see in a "healthy gainer"?

spaceclown · 03-22-2007, 05:29 PM

Cytogainer, Real Gains and Isopure Mass have some of the best profiles. Ergo makes Mass Meal that looks interesting. Its more fat but derived from Enova oil.

**romanaz** · 03-22-2007, 06:53 PM

if anyone wants cytogainer, I got 4lbs of cookies and cream

**Succio** · 03-22-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by romanaz

if anyone wants cytogainer, I got 4lbs of cookies and cream

i have about 6

**Ikaika** · 03-22-2007, 09:19 PM

Haven't tried the Isopure Mass, although Nature's Best tends to make some quality products.

In all honesty, I'd much rather just throw oats, whey protein, milk, and some peanut butter in my blender than screw around with all the other junk that goes into these gainers. Throw in some ice cubes and you have a chocolate peanut butter smoothie.

cha0s_49 · 04-12-2007, 09:53 PM

GNC - Sports Nutrition: GNC Pro Performance® Mass XXX™ - Chocolate

It's GNC's Pro Performance brand, but it let me gain a pound per day for 10 days.

**sns8778** · 04-17-2007, 07:26 PM

Homeade options are always your best route, but if looking for a prepackaged one, cytogainer is hard to beat.

**Ikaika** · 04-17-2007, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cha0s_49

GNC - Sports Nutrition: GNC Pro Performance® Mass XXX™ - Chocolate

It's GNC's Pro Performance brand, but it let me gain a pound per day for 10 days.

The problem with GNC's stuff is that they use lower purity protein and a lot of sugars. The Mass XXX is better than many of their other products but all things being nutritionally equal, GNC products always lose out in the taste department.

cha0s_49 · 04-18-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ikaika

The problem with GNC's stuff is that they use lower purity protein and a lot of sugars. The Mass XXX is better than many of their other products but all things being nutritionally equal, GNC products always lose out in the taste department.

I've always had bad experiences with GNC as far as taste goes, but this is by far their best product. It really doesn't taste bad, but it's a hell of a big shake compared to some of the others.

**Ikaika** · 04-18-2007, 01:03 AM

03-22-2007, 05:13 AM	#1
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,049 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 114	Best WeightGainer? Hey everyone. I've been looking around for a quality high calorie supplement, but all I can find are ones that are high i sugars and define their complex carbs as Maltodextrine. Doesn't anyone make their gainers with like... dehydrated startch or something? I'm looking for a quick, yet POTENT breakfast in the morning. I know there are a lot of recipes for homemade ones, but I don't really have the time or resources for that in the morning. I've decided I would rather just supplement it with a gainer of some sort. Any faves or experiences with gainers high in healthy fat and starches? If there are truly none of these available.... someone could make a killing developing one... IMO. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

03-22-2007, 05:41 AM	#4
Succio IronMass Sponsor Join Date: May 2006 Location: beastville Posts: 1,942 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 97	i have roughly 12 pounds of cytogainer lol but their choc mint is damn good, look into it. Other than that, i think weight gainers are shit. __________________ SUPPLEMENTS.NET REP

03-22-2007, 01:27 PM	#5
Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,771 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 216	I agree that Cytogainer is probably the least of all evils when it comes to weight gainers. I wouldn't go so far as to say Cytogainer tastes good, but it is definitely tolerable and it fed me many times sitting up at GNC when I ran out of chicken and rice. It has real low sugar, which is the biggest upshot I see to using it versus pretty much any other gainer. __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

03-22-2007, 02:35 PM	#7
Midnight_Lifter IronMass Vip Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 420 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 35	I've never used it, but MHP has UpYourMass that I recall as being worth a look if I ever went down that road. Universal Nutrition just released Torrent, which is more of a post workout supp, but it has waxy maize starch and some other goodies for your carbs... I think most of the PWO recovery agents would be wasted if you are taking Torrent as a gainer, but it might be worth looking into. Question: Would it be entirely bad to chug an MRP or an extra scoop of whey along with your breakfast? Avg MRP = ~250 cals, 35-45g protein. Or, space it out and have a shake an hour after your "regular" breakfast... __________________ - Discipline means doing within, not doing without. "Nothin' to it but to do it!" *Currently rebuilding in phase one...

03-22-2007, 03:22 PM	#8
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,049 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 114	actually, i'd switch that. I'd do the supp first, then real breakfast. The BV and digestion speed of a supp is generally higher than whole food. Thanks for the responses guys. I believe someone can make a killing developing a healthy gainer. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

03-22-2007, 05:29 AM	#3
DarkFalcon I've got a RAGING clue! Join Date: May 2005 Location: dnyc99's cleaning staff Posts: 11,511 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 299	I've never seen one myself. Weight gainers are great at making you fat.

03-22-2007, 04:11 PM	#9
Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,771 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 216	What kinds of things would you like to see in a "healthy gainer"? __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

03-22-2007, 05:29 PM	#10
spaceclown IMPC Contestant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the gym Posts: 1,723 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 39	Cytogainer, Real Gains and Isopure Mass have some of the best profiles. Ergo makes Mass Meal that looks interesting. Its more fat but derived from Enova oil. __________________ Spaceclown _________________________ Millennium Sport Technologies www.millenniumsport.net

03-22-2007, 09:19 PM	#13
Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,771 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 216	Haven't tried the Isopure Mass, although Nature's Best tends to make some quality products. In all honesty, I'd much rather just throw oats, whey protein, milk, and some peanut butter in my blender than screw around with all the other junk that goes into these gainers. Throw in some ice cubes and you have a chocolate peanut butter smoothie. __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

04-12-2007, 09:53 PM	#14
cha0s_49 Amateur Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 46 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	GNC - Sports Nutrition: GNC Pro Performance® Mass XXX™ - Chocolate It's GNC's Pro Performance brand, but it let me gain a pound per day for 10 days.

04-17-2007, 07:26 PM	#15
sns8778 Forum Sponsor Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 95 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Homeade options are always your best route, but if looking for a prepackaged one, cytogainer is hard to beat. __________________ Serious Nutrition Solutions - steve@seriousnutritionsolutions.com Serious Nutrition Solution's Primary Goals: Providing: 1. Top Quality Products 2. The Best Customer Service in the Industry 3. Products that are Cost Effective to the Consumer

04-18-2007, 01:03 AM	#18
Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,771 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 216