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Old 08-25-2006, 11:20 PM   #1
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okay guys. In December this year, I will be going all natural for some time.

I will be using the basics:

Bulk CEE, ON Whey Protein, multi, EFA's.

I will most likely be using these as well:

Scivation Xtend, Dymatize Mega Milk, ZMA, along with Milk Thistle and NAC to make absolutely sure my liver recovers as quickly as possible (not that I am expecting any great deal of damage).

My question to you guys is this:

With all the NHA-stack style products out there, what products really stand out? Is Activate/Rebound Reloaded really all that great? Is powerfull worth a go? How about Hyperdrol? Hear a lot about Diesel Test and FenoTest.... any good?

.... you get the idea guys. all you natural trainers out there help a fella out. Any of those new natty products any good, or am I better off sticking with the basics? thanks guys!

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okay guys. In December this year, I will be going all natural for some time.

I will be using the basics:

Bulk CEE, ON Whey Protein, multi, EFA's.

I will most likely be using these as well:

Scivation Xtend, Dymatize Mega Milk, ZMA, along with Milk Thistle and NAC to make absolutely sure my liver recovers as quickly as possible (not that I am expecting any great deal of damage).

My question to you guys is this:

With all the NHA-stack style products out there, what products really stand out? Is Activate/Rebound Reloaded really all that great? Is powerfull worth a go? How about Hyperdrol? Hear a lot about Diesel Test and FenoTest.... any good?

.... you get the idea guys. all you natural trainers out there help a fella out. Any of those new natty products any good, or am I better off sticking with the basics? thanks guys!
LOL! Bro.....all those supplements are what you consider natural? LMAO! Anyway, to answer, I did the ActivaTe and Rebound XT and it was awesome! I'm sure with the Reloaded, it may be even better! I haven't tried any of the other items you have listed.

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LOL! Bro.....all those supplements are what you consider natural? LMAO! Anyway, to answer, I did the ActivaTe and Rebound XT and it was awesome! I'm sure with the Reloaded, it may be even better! I haven't tried any of the other items you have listed.

Good luck bro!
yes, I do consider them natural, lol. They promote NATURAL testosterone increases. If it aint gear, it's natural, lol.
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the only natural "supplement" I can think of is food.

everything else is synthetic.

powerfull ive seen compared to ARs hyperdrol. activate does really work ive used it myself along with rxt and lxt. i had to stop after a while though because i was getting some sides i didn't want. its still a good stack though.

honestly i would go with x-factor. except for the INTENSE SWEATING and selective foods allowed to be consumed it was awesome. stack it with creatine/bcaa it would be an awesome stack.
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yes, I do consider them natural, lol. They promote NATURAL testosterone increases. If it aint gear, it's natural, lol.
I hear sex, even by yourself promotes NATURAL testosterone increases. Does that count as well? Although I wouldn't advise doing it in the gym! LOL!
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the only natural "supplement" I can think of is food.

everything else is synthetic.

powerfull ive seen compared to ARs hyperdrol. activate does really work ive used it myself along with rxt and lxt. i had to stop after a while though because i was getting some sides i didn't want. its still a good stack though.

honestly i would go with x-factor. except for the INTENSE SWEATING and selective foods allowed to be consumed it was awesome. stack it with creatine/bcaa it would be an awesome stack.
I dont consider food a supplement. Supplements aren't necessary, Food is.

I tried X-Factor once, but in combination with some other stuff. might try it alone later, but im not sure i wanna shell out that kind of money for something that hasn't worked well for me in the past.

very thankful for the input.
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As mentioned, X-Factor and the NHA stack seem to be up there with the best of them. Body Octane/Clout is another combo I've heard nothing but great things about.

Although I enjoyed using PowerFULL, the ingredients are still a bit of a mystery. At least for the next week or two...



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what happens within the next week or two?
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ActivaTe is natural, and it works.
Rebound isn't quite natural in that the doses found in nature are far too low for efficacy, but it works too.
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ActivaTe is natural, and it works.
Rebound isn't quite natural in that the doses found in nature are far too low for efficacy, but it works too.
thanks. Would you say running them both for 8 weeks would be wise? (tapering down the RR dosage)
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just look on the DS website for the NHA stacks and how to run them. they have them VERY nicely laid out.
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ActivaTe is natural, and it works.
Rebound isn't quite natural in that the doses found in nature are far too low for efficacy, but it works too.
ActivaTe doesn't appeal to me much. Nor does RR.
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just look on the DS website for the NHA stacks and how to run them. they have them VERY nicely laid out.
yea, that is where I got the 8 week idea. I love thier site, it's pretty nice, eh?

I was just asking his PERSONAL opinion on if he felt it was a good idea or not.

I mean, the stuff isn't methylated gear, lol. but still some might not recommend running it 8 weeks.
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