Anyone feel bit "hyped" from Cissus by USP

Cookie Dough · 10-09-2006, 04:37 PM

Hi
I started taking Cissus for a slight elbow pain which it cured completely. I have noticed it seems to "enhance" any pre workout stim thus cut back on that.
Anyone find same effect from Cissus ? I emailed co asking if it contains natural caffeine but no responce .

Thanks

Cookie Dough · 10-09-2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookie Dough

Hi
I started taking Cissus for a slight elbow pain which it cured completely. I have noticed it seems to "enhance" any pre workout stim thus cut back on that.
Anyone find same effect from Cissus ? I emailed co asking if it contains natural caffeine but no responce .

Thanks

Co just got back to me no caffeine . However anyone find it 'hypes" them up a bit at 2 pills a dose?
Works great though so no complaints.

NumberTwentyTwo · 10-09-2006, 10:33 PM

supposedly there are steroids in it

**Blap Blaow** · 10-09-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NumberTwentyTwo

supposedly there are steroids in it

Is this new information or the year-old rumour?

Anyways, I've never noticed anything of the sort from Cissus- perhaps slight 'mood enhancement', but only over a sustained period, not dose-by-dose like you're describing.

Cookie Dough · 10-09-2006, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Blap Blaow

Is this new information or the year-old rumour?

Anyways, I've never noticed anything of the sort from Cissus- perhaps slight 'mood enhancement', but only over a sustained period, not dose-by-dose like you're describing.

I seem to get bit "hyped' if taking 2 pills at a time so just cut back to one 3 times a day and 2 pre workout. It has completely 'fixed" my elbow pains .
So worth taking. I havent gotten any strength increase but wasnt going for that . Have you gotten any increase in strength ,etc?

**mr_min** · 10-11-2006, 11:08 PM

nearing the end of the bottle, i started seeing acne and forehead and slightly on shoulders.

didnt fix any pain for me but rather increased my strength pretty well..

Cookie Dough · 10-12-2006, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mr_min

nearing the end of the bottle, i started seeing acne and forehead and slightly on shoulders.

didnt fix any pain for me but rather increased my strength pretty well..

For me it took care of my elbow pain completely to the point using more weight than normal almost daring my elbow to hurt again .

What dosage do you take ? Since you mentioned acne do you feel slight test increase due to it ?

A few guys from gym say same thing you say -strength increase .

**mr_min** · 10-12-2006, 12:17 AM

as for a feeling of increased test, i dont really know - if it did, nothing that would make me notice except acne.

my whole life i have been acne prone - but have been able to handle it with various otc drugs.

i am a huge fan of no-xplode especially the newer version - but while running both, i did notice an extra increase and will be attempting again as i have another bottle on the shelf along with my other goodies...hah

everything legal....

**Blap Blaow** · 10-12-2006, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cookie Dough

I seem to get bit "hyped' if taking 2 pills at a time so just cut back to one 3 times a day and 2 pre workout. It has completely 'fixed" my elbow pains .
So worth taking. I havent gotten any strength increase but wasnt going for that . Have you gotten any increase in strength ,etc?

I noticed total alleviation of the pain in my tiny baby wrists and some in my shoulder (although this was an on/off problem anyways). Negligible strength changes, very slight improvement in complexion, zero stimulant effects. Generally the stand out feature was the alleviation of pain (inflammation related) in my wrists and shoulder- and the feeling that my shoulders in particular were more resilient to injury from exercises which might normally aggrevate them.

One weird thing- within a couple of weeks of stopping my Cissus my left knee developed some issues which I'm still suffering with. I'm thinking about starting it up again to see what it can do.

strester · 10-12-2006, 10:57 AM

the more I read about cissus, the more I'm thinking I should give it a shot .... I've got the same issue with my wrists, Blap ... but I've been relying on APT's wrist straps as the solution so far

navarone · 10-12-2006, 02:00 PM

I would really like to know if this stuff works, cuz my left knee likes to sound like its grinding, and it loves to click on me, lol.

strester · 10-12-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by strester

the more I read about cissus, the more I'm thinking I should give it a shot .... I've got the same issue with my wrists, Blap ... but I've been relying on APT's wrist straps as the solution so far

not wrist straps ... i meant wrist wraps (doh!!) ....

navarone ... I noticed some grinding today as well ..... in my left shoulder when doing DB presses .... might be getting this sooner than I think

**mr_min** · 10-12-2006, 11:30 PM

heres an important fact about wrist wrapes:

wrist wrapes actually cause your wrists to get weaker and possibly smaller.

strester · 10-13-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_min

heres an important fact about wrist wrapes:

wrist wrapes actually cause your wrists to get weaker and possibly smaller.

do you have a link to the research for this?

**mr_min** · 10-13-2006, 06:36 PM

http://uistudenthealth.com/question/...&agid=3&id=536

I have noticed that many weight lifters use wrist straps when deadlifting or other pulling exercises. Are these straps safe? Do they put excessive amounts of load on the wrist causing dislocation?

Wrist straps are pieces of material that are used to secure the hand and wrist to a barbell, dumbbell, or machine during resistance training. Since the muscles supporting the wrist are much smaller than the back or chest, the straps allow the user to maintain a grip against a heavy load which might otherwise pull out of the lifter’s hands before the completion of the exercise. They are most commonly used when performing exercises such as the deadlift, pull-up, lat-pulldown, upright row, or bent-over row.

The major problem regarding the use of weight straps involves their safety. Users must take caution when using wrist straps as the weight is physically secured to the individual. Any deviations in form or dropping the weight (which is common during power exercises such as the snatch and power clean) could cause significant damage to the wrist, arm, shoulder, or back. Safety also becomes more of an issue when an individual with limited training experience attempts to lift more weight than they can tolerate. It is possible that a lifter may compromise handgrip and forearm strength by overusing wrist straps. Individuals who are considering the use of wrist straps should make a concerted effort to focus on forearm strength, which may also alleviate the need to use the straps. Typically, dislocation is not an issue unless an individual has extremely weak wrists and in that case, one needs to build basic strength before moving on to more advanced resistance training exercises.

There is also debate among enthusiasts as far as using any ergonomic device is concerned. Proponents suggest that the use of wrist straps, knee wraps, and waist belts help with safety, improve performance, and are necessary for effective training. Others believe that if a weight cannot be lifted without the use of an assistive device, then it should not be lifted at all. With the exception of waist belts, there is no research to suggest that wrist straps or knee wraps improve the safety of lifting and they may actually be associated with increased risk of injury. Waist belts are effective at protecting the back but should be used only when lifting very heavy loads or when doing repetitive work.

**mr_min** · 10-13-2006, 06:38 PM

I call it a fact but maybe that was too strong of a word to use.

**Blap Blaow** · 10-13-2006, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mr_min

http://uistudenthealth.com/question/...&agid=3&id=536

I have noticed that many weight lifters use wrist straps when deadlifting or other pulling exercises. Are these straps safe? Do they put excessive amounts of load on the wrist causing dislocation?

Wrist straps are pieces of material that are used to secure the hand and wrist to a barbell, dumbbell, or machine during resistance training. Since the muscles supporting the wrist are much smaller than the back or chest, the straps allow the user to maintain a grip against a heavy load which might otherwise pull out of the lifter’s hands before the completion of the exercise. They are most commonly used when performing exercises such as the deadlift, pull-up, lat-pulldown, upright row, or bent-over row.

The major problem regarding the use of weight straps involves their safety. Users must take caution when using wrist straps as the weight is physically secured to the individual. Any deviations in form or dropping the weight (which is common during power exercises such as the snatch and power clean) could cause significant damage to the wrist, arm, shoulder, or back. Safety also becomes more of an issue when an individual with limited training experience attempts to lift more weight than they can tolerate. It is possible that a lifter may compromise handgrip and forearm strength by overusing wrist straps. Individuals who are considering the use of wrist straps should make a concerted effort to focus on forearm strength, which may also alleviate the need to use the straps. Typically, dislocation is not an issue unless an individual has extremely weak wrists and in that case, one needs to build basic strength before moving on to more advanced resistance training exercises.

There is also debate among enthusiasts as far as using any ergonomic device is concerned. Proponents suggest that the use of wrist straps, knee wraps, and waist belts help with safety, improve performance, and are necessary for effective training. Others believe that if a weight cannot be lifted without the use of an assistive device, then it should not be lifted at all. With the exception of waist belts, there is no research to suggest that wrist straps or knee wraps improve the safety of lifting and they may actually be associated with increased risk of injury. Waist belts are effective at protecting the back but should be used only when lifting very heavy loads or when doing repetitive work.

this is mainly talking about wrist straps, not wraps.

CDB · 10-13-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by navarone

I would really like to know if this stuff works, cuz my left knee likes to sound like its grinding, and it loves to click on me, lol.

I buy the bulk powder from an online retailer (not sure if I can mention him here) and I love it. I've been upwards of ten grams a day. I have arthritus in both knees and ligaments that are a basically shot. It's a very good pain releaver. Not sure about permanent healing effects but for the pain relief alone I think it's a very good supplement. I do notice I feel a bit 'up' while taking it. There are no steroids in Cissus. Sterols, yes, but they are very different things. It's a good supplement, as are most USP Labs products in my opinion, and there are some very good sales going on right now if you know where to look.

navarone · 10-13-2006, 09:13 PM

alright well thanks alot cDB, my knees are shot from gaining so much weight so fast, lol. I ate at mcdonalds eve day and gained 35 pounds in a month... damn was cutting down a bitch after that, lol. but now i believe my knees are a dircet result of gaining the weight

10-09-2006, 04:37 PM	#1
Cookie Dough Amateur Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: America Posts: 80 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Anyone feel bit "hyped" from Cissus by USP Hi I started taking Cissus for a slight elbow pain which it cured completely. I have noticed it seems to "enhance" any pre workout stim thus cut back on that. Anyone find same effect from Cissus ? I emailed co asking if it contains natural caffeine but no responce . Thanks

10-09-2006, 10:33 PM	#3
NumberTwentyTwo New Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 11 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	supposedly there are steroids in it __________________ #22

10-12-2006, 10:57 AM	#10
strester Pro Stature Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gold's Gym Posts: 135 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	the more I read about cissus, the more I'm thinking I should give it a shot .... I've got the same issue with my wrists, Blap ... but I've been relying on APT's wrist straps as the solution so far __________________ strester vs. genetics: Phase 1 - the Green MAGnitude log: http://www.ironmass.com/showthread.php?t=7577 Phase 2 - the Steel-belted Radial log: http://www.ironmass.com/showthread.p...610#post176610

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navarone Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 930 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 52	I would really like to know if this stuff works, cuz my left knee likes to sound like its grinding, and it loves to click on me, lol. __________________ Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated Stats: Weight: Between 200-205 depending on the day Bench: 265X5 atm. Squat: 360X5 atm.. Higest Ever 435 Deadlift: 420X3 Waist: 34 Arms: 17.5 cold . Pics Finally! http://www.ironmass.com/f16/nav-s-1-...ulk-12947.html

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navarone Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 930 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 52	alright well thanks alot cDB, my knees are shot from gaining so much weight so fast, lol. I ate at mcdonalds eve day and gained 35 pounds in a month... damn was cutting down a bitch after that, lol. but now i believe my knees are a dircet result of gaining the weight __________________ Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated Stats: Weight: Between 200-205 depending on the day Bench: 265X5 atm. Squat: 360X5 atm.. Higest Ever 435 Deadlift: 420X3 Waist: 34 Arms: 17.5 cold . Pics Finally! http://www.ironmass.com/f16/nav-s-1-...ulk-12947.html

10-11-2006, 11:08 PM	#6
mr_min IronMass Vip Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: connecticut Posts: 503 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	nearing the end of the bottle, i started seeing acne and forehead and slightly on shoulders. didnt fix any pain for me but rather increased my strength pretty well..

10-12-2006, 12:17 AM	#8
mr_min IronMass Vip Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: connecticut Posts: 503 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	as for a feeling of increased test, i dont really know - if it did, nothing that would make me notice except acne. my whole life i have been acne prone - but have been able to handle it with various otc drugs. i am a huge fan of no-xplode especially the newer version - but while running both, i did notice an extra increase and will be attempting again as i have another bottle on the shelf along with my other goodies...hah everything legal....

10-12-2006, 11:30 PM	#13
mr_min IronMass Vip Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: connecticut Posts: 503 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	heres an important fact about wrist wrapes: wrist wrapes actually cause your wrists to get weaker and possibly smaller.

10-13-2006, 06:36 PM	#15
mr_min IronMass Vip Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: connecticut Posts: 503 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	http://uistudenthealth.com/question/...&agid=3&id=536 I have noticed that many weight lifters use wrist straps when deadlifting or other pulling exercises. Are these straps safe? Do they put excessive amounts of load on the wrist causing dislocation? Wrist straps are pieces of material that are used to secure the hand and wrist to a barbell, dumbbell, or machine during resistance training. Since the muscles supporting the wrist are much smaller than the back or chest, the straps allow the user to maintain a grip against a heavy load which might otherwise pull out of the lifter’s hands before the completion of the exercise. They are most commonly used when performing exercises such as the deadlift, pull-up, lat-pulldown, upright row, or bent-over row. The major problem regarding the use of weight straps involves their safety. Users must take caution when using wrist straps as the weight is physically secured to the individual. Any deviations in form or dropping the weight (which is common during power exercises such as the snatch and power clean) could cause significant damage to the wrist, arm, shoulder, or back. Safety also becomes more of an issue when an individual with limited training experience attempts to lift more weight than they can tolerate. It is possible that a lifter may compromise handgrip and forearm strength by overusing wrist straps. Individuals who are considering the use of wrist straps should make a concerted effort to focus on forearm strength, which may also alleviate the need to use the straps. Typically, dislocation is not an issue unless an individual has extremely weak wrists and in that case, one needs to build basic strength before moving on to more advanced resistance training exercises. There is also debate among enthusiasts as far as using any ergonomic device is concerned. Proponents suggest that the use of wrist straps, knee wraps, and waist belts help with safety, improve performance, and are necessary for effective training. Others believe that if a weight cannot be lifted without the use of an assistive device, then it should not be lifted at all. With the exception of waist belts, there is no research to suggest that wrist straps or knee wraps improve the safety of lifting and they may actually be associated with increased risk of injury. Waist belts are effective at protecting the back but should be used only when lifting very heavy loads or when doing repetitive work.

10-13-2006, 06:38 PM	#16
mr_min IronMass Vip Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: connecticut Posts: 503 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	I call it a fact but maybe that was too strong of a word to use.

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