Anti-Estrogen Supplements as a Cutting Supplement

**johnsbod** · 09-16-2005, 11:13 PM

I have to admit that I'm not up on a lot of the current supplements, and I really don't take that many to begin with. I only recently started taking creatine again and also use fish oil, multi, whey protein, and green tea. Other than that I rely on plain old food.

My poor summer diet has left me with some weight that I'd like to lose before I go on a bulk this winter. My question is, would there be any benefit to taking Anti-Estrogen supplements while on a cutting diet? Are there any side effects or problems with doing this? If it is doable, should I take the normal dose or a lowered dose?

Here's a link to the products on Supplement King's website. Which would you recommend?

http://***************.com/index.php?cPath=25

**schroeder** · 09-16-2005, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by johnsbod

I have to admit that I'm not up on a lot of the current supplements, and I really don't take that many to begin with. I only recently started taking creatine again and also use fish oil, multi, whey protein, and green tea. Other than that I rely on plain old food.

My poor summer diet has left me with some weight that I'd like to lose before I go on a bulk this winter. My question is, would there be any benefit to taking Anti-Estrogen supplements while on a cutting diet? Are there any side effects or problems with doing this? If it is doable, should I take the normal dose or a lowered dose?

Here's a link to the products on Supplement King's website. Which would you recommend?

http://***************.com/index.php?cPath=25

what would be the reason for it? losing the waterweight? last year before spring break i threw a perscription anit-estrogen (research material) into my cut.....it worked really good. i'm not sure if you wanan bother with that method or not. my suggestion wou8ld be just to try a diuretic (sp.)

**johnsbod** · 09-16-2005, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by schroeder

what would be the reason for it? losing the waterweight? last year before spring break i threw a perscription anit-estrogen (research material) into my cut.....it worked really good. i'm not sure if you wanan bother with that method or not. my suggestion wou8ld be just to try a diuretic (sp.)

The reason would be to help me get rid of excess bodyfat that I put on from my Hefeweizen and Schnitzel diet this summer.

I was about 225 at the beginning of the summer and I weigh about 235 right now, but I need to get down to about 210 to be cut. I was hoping it would help me lose the fat and keep more muscle while dieting. I'm shooting for 1.5-2 lbs/week right now.

chlaxman · 09-16-2005, 11:21 PM

I think an ATD would be beneficial during the cut to harden up and preserve muscle while on a cut. I probably would not go with an SERM, but I think that would work pretty well, too.

**johnsbod** · 09-16-2005, 11:22 PM

Which one would you guys recommend from that link in my first post and what dose? I should also mention that I don't like needles.

chlaxman · 09-16-2005, 11:28 PM

I'd suggest Rebound XT and none of them require a needle.

**johnsbod** · 09-16-2005, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chlaxman

I'd suggest Rebound XT and none of them require a needle.

Should I lower the dose since I don't run cycles? Maybe just take 1 capsule at night?

**skelooth** · 09-17-2005, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chlaxman

I think an ATD would be beneficial during the cut to harden up and preserve muscle while on a cut. I probably would not go with an SERM, but I think that would work pretty well, too.

*agreement*

When I was taking giant ATD my weight went up a pound or two despite being in a calorie defecit, my strength shot up disgustingly fast, and I dropped ALL fat from my hips.

ATD is in my official list of supplements that work.

**skelooth** · 09-17-2005, 12:22 AM

On dosing: Nah, don't drop the dosage.

giant atd is basically the same as rebound xt... when I ran giant atd I did 1 week at 3 caps, 2 weeks at 2 caps, then 1 cap a day until it was finished. When you're doing 3 caps the side effects will be pretty strong, so I recommend taking a joint support and flax/fish oil.

THEKING · 09-17-2005, 01:52 AM

Rebound actually helped reduce a little lump behind my left nipple. I would definitly suggest this. or is that my nipple talking? LOL

**skelooth** · 09-17-2005, 02:03 AM

i saw no 'lump decrease' while taking ATD... i guess that means me having gyno is all in my head :hyper2:

**johnsbod** · 09-17-2005, 04:17 AM

Thanks for the feedback guys. I just put in an order with Supplement Kings for the Rebound. I'll keep a log here once I get it.

**DarkFalcon** · 09-17-2005, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by johnsbod

Thanks for the feedback guys. I just put in an order with Supplement Kings for the Rebound. I'll keep a log here once I get it.

Cool, looking forward to your first log here. :bigthumbu

**johnsbod** · 09-17-2005, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

Cool, looking forward to your first log here. :bigthumbu

Thanks bro.

I figure if I keep a log it will help keep me on track.

**johnsbod** · 09-20-2005, 06:14 AM

I have to say I'm very impressed. I placed my order on 9/17 and it arrived 9/19. :bigthumbu

I'm planning on starting my log on October 2nd for anyone who's interested.

**skelooth** · 09-20-2005, 12:02 PM

I think you're going to be impressed with ATD as well

Have you decided on a dosing scheme? ATD is good enough that it has a permanent spot in my arsenal... right next to creatine and ephedrine.

**Trick D** · 09-20-2005, 01:48 PM

Sweet, I will definitely look for it... I know EME runs a ATD when he is getting into contest shape...

chlaxman · 09-20-2005, 03:12 PM

Hopefully I'll be running one soon, as soon as I get some $$$ together.

09-16-2005, 11:13 PM	#1
johnsbod Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 2,733 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 60	Anti-Estrogen Supplements as a Cutting Supplement I have to admit that I'm not up on a lot of the current supplements, and I really don't take that many to begin with. I only recently started taking creatine again and also use fish oil, multi, whey protein, and green tea. Other than that I rely on plain old food. My poor summer diet has left me with some weight that I'd like to lose before I go on a bulk this winter. My question is, would there be any benefit to taking Anti-Estrogen supplements while on a cutting diet? Are there any side effects or problems with doing this? If it is doable, should I take the normal dose or a lowered dose? Here's a link to the products on Supplement King's website. Which would you recommend? http://***************.com/index.php?cPath=25 __________________ Wenn Sie Deutsch sprechen können, posten Sie hier. Misc Perv #69

09-16-2005, 11:21 PM	#4
chlaxman Pro Stature Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine baby Posts: 560 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 9	I think an ATD would be beneficial during the cut to harden up and preserve muscle while on a cut. I probably would not go with an SERM, but I think that would work pretty well, too. __________________ Tempora mutantur, et nos mutamur in illis. :weight_li :dumbells: :bed2: :friday:

09-16-2005, 11:22 PM	#5
johnsbod Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 2,733 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 60	Which one would you guys recommend from that link in my first post and what dose? I should also mention that I don't like needles. __________________ Wenn Sie Deutsch sprechen können, posten Sie hier. Misc Perv #69

09-16-2005, 11:28 PM	#6
chlaxman Pro Stature Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine baby Posts: 560 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 9	I'd suggest Rebound XT and none of them require a needle. __________________ Tempora mutantur, et nos mutamur in illis. :weight_li :dumbells: :bed2: :friday:

09-17-2005, 12:22 AM	#9
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,202 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	On dosing: Nah, don't drop the dosage. giant atd is basically the same as rebound xt... when I ran giant atd I did 1 week at 3 caps, 2 weeks at 2 caps, then 1 cap a day until it was finished. When you're doing 3 caps the side effects will be pretty strong, so I recommend taking a joint support and flax/fish oil. __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

09-17-2005, 01:52 AM	#10
THEKING SupplementKings.com Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 423 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 8	Rebound actually helped reduce a little lump behind my left nipple. I would definitly suggest this. or is that my nipple talking? LOL

09-17-2005, 02:03 AM	#11
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,202 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	i saw no 'lump decrease' while taking ATD... i guess that means me having gyno is all in my head :hyper2: __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

09-17-2005, 04:17 AM	#12
johnsbod Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 2,733 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 60	Thanks for the feedback guys. I just put in an order with Supplement Kings for the Rebound. I'll keep a log here once I get it. __________________ Wenn Sie Deutsch sprechen können, posten Sie hier. Misc Perv #69

09-20-2005, 06:14 AM	#15
johnsbod Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 2,733 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 60	I have to say I'm very impressed. I placed my order on 9/17 and it arrived 9/19. :bigthumbu I'm planning on starting my log on October 2nd for anyone who's interested. __________________ Wenn Sie Deutsch sprechen können, posten Sie hier. Misc Perv #69

09-20-2005, 12:02 PM	#16
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,202 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	I think you're going to be impressed with ATD as well Have you decided on a dosing scheme? ATD is good enough that it has a permanent spot in my arsenal... right next to creatine and ephedrine. __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

09-20-2005, 03:12 PM	#18
chlaxman Pro Stature Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine baby Posts: 560 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 9	Hopefully I'll be running one soon, as soon as I get some $$$ together. __________________ Tempora mutantur, et nos mutamur in illis. :weight_li :dumbells: :bed2: :friday: