Anti E

**Succio** · 06-27-2007, 03:34 AM

anyone have an Anti estrogen supplement theyd reccomend? i have some big man boobs im trying to get rid of. no ive never done any cycles.

**Ikaika** · 06-27-2007, 05:55 AM

if you want to get rid of gyno you need to use a SERM like raloxifene. Stop by the AAS section and we can talk.

**Succio** · 06-27-2007, 05:58 AM

anit e wont work? i remember DF recommending me it and someone else did too.

**powerman2000** · 06-27-2007, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ikaika

if you want to get rid of gyno you need to use a SERM like raloxifene. Stop by the AAS section and we can talk.

I've never read anywhere from anyone that a SERM will get rid of existing gyno tits.

The only thing I've read for doing that is possibly Epi and all it's clones.

The original use in Japan for Epi was to treat for gyno. It doesn't work equally well for everyone. Some not at all, but many have reported up to a 50% reduction in tissue.

**powerman2000** · 06-27-2007, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Succio

anit e wont work? i remember DF recommending me it and someone else did too.

That prevents only and won't get rid of existing gyno.

**Succio** · 06-27-2007, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

I've never read anywhere from anyone that a SERM will get rid of existing gyno tits.

The only thing I've read for doing that is possibly Epi and all it's clones.

The original use in Japan for Epi was to treat for gyno. It doesn't work equally well for everyone. Some not at all, but many have reported up to a 50% reduction in tissue.

so would you reccomend it? im 18 years old

**powerman2000** · 06-27-2007, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Succio

so would you reccomend it? im 18 years old

I don't know if I would recommend it for an 18 y/o, but I don't think it's a bad idea.

It is a real steroid, however, and therefore you need to research it a lot on your own before using it.

A lot of peeps will tell you that you are too young, but I disagree. Especially when it comes to something like an Epi compound, which is very mild in strength and negative sides.

I've done one cycle of Epistane already and I had probably only a 15-20% reduction in my own gyno.

**Ikaika** · 06-27-2007, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

I've never read anywhere from anyone that a SERM will get rid of existing gyno tits.

The only thing I've read for doing that is possibly Epi and all it's clones.

Epistane is a SERM, but so is raloxifene. Raloxifene, as HiCal so eloquently put it, is THE gold standard in gyno reduction.

Succio, if you're 18 then you shouldn't touch Epistane, its a steroid blah blah blah.

**Succio** · 06-27-2007, 06:37 AM

so i guess im stuck with it forever? im mostly likely gonna be natural for my career.

**powerman2000** · 06-27-2007, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ikaika

Epistane is a SERM, but so is raloxifene. Raloxifene, as HiCal so eloquently put it, is THE gold standard in gyno reduction.

Yeah, you're right. It's just not what I would call a traditional SERM.

I hadn't heard that about Raloxifene. So it actually kills the breast tissue cells?

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Originally Posted by Ikaika

Succio, if you're 18 then you shouldn't touch Epistane, its a steroid blah blah blah.

LOL

**powerman2000** · 06-27-2007, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Succio

so i guess im stuck with it forever? im mostly likely gonna be natural for my career.

You could spend $7,000 for surgery.

**Ikaika** · 06-27-2007, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

Yeah, you're right. It's just not what I would call a traditional SERM.

I hadn't heard that about Raloxifene. So it actually kills the breast tissue cells?

I'm not real clear on WHY it works so well to get rid of gyno, but it outperforms toremifene and tamoxifen by a large margin. It doesn't stimulate the HPTA the way the other two do either. Maybe HiCal can chime in here.

Succio, raloxifene isn't a steroid of any sort. It doesn't cause anabolism and so you could continue to contend that you are natural. Epistane, on the other hand, is an anabolic so you'll obviously want to stay away from it until you're old enough/ready.

**powerman2000** · 06-30-2007, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ikaika

I'm not real clear on WHY it works so well to get rid of gyno, but it outperforms toremifene and tamoxifen by a large margin. It doesn't stimulate the HPTA the way the other two do either. Maybe HiCal can chime in here.

Succio, raloxifene isn't a steroid of any sort. It doesn't cause anabolism and so you could continue to contend that you are natural. Epistane, on the other hand, is an anabolic so you'll obviously want to stay away from it until you're old enough/ready.

I looked and looked for info that supports raloxifene's ability to get rid of gyno and came up totally empty.

**Ikaika** · 07-01-2007, 03:48 AM

PM HiCal, he can explain it way better than I can since he cooks the stuff up himself.

06-27-2007, 03:34 AM	#1
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Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,900 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 222	Re: Anti E if you want to get rid of gyno you need to use a SERM like raloxifene. Stop by the AAS section and we can talk. __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

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Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,900 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 222	Re: Anti E PM HiCal, he can explain it way better than I can since he cooks the stuff up himself. __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

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