PROD1GY

Hey, since 6-OXO is virtually side effect free what do you think of running it on a cut?
I heard ATD melts estrogen fat, so wouldn't this help too?

beer20

you should hold off on it since youre 15 :rock2:

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sublimejeh

ya Id wait at LEAST 5 or 6 years on that one buddy. At your age, it WON'T be side effect free

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uhockey

Agreed. Neither product is a good choice at 15. Older persons, such as Johnsbod, have seen good results on an ATD cut, however.

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PROD1GY

Well, since your here , help me out with one more thing,
NHA STACK:
ATD/Rebound: Raise Test/Control Estrogen
ActivaTe: Redistribute Test in a way that benefits you more

So now, since my test is fairly high, I can run ActivaTe to make the most out of it. Then, I can low dose atd/6-oxo just to make sure estrogen doesnt get out of hand..

in your opinion, does that seem ok? what are potentional sides?
I'm gonna run a 2/3 week atd cycle just to see what its likee

jkeithc82

*Strongly considers implementing a rule against 15 years asking questions like this*:clunk:

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PROD1GY

SURE, ill just go pop a few atd pills here and there then

jkeithc82

Or, enjoy natural testosterone production through adolescence and realize this stuff is NOT needed for someone who is 15!!!! I'm 24 and most of the stuff in your "stash" I've never taken. Ever try just eating, lifting and gaining?

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PROD1GY

Even if it was an attempt at humor using disrespectful terms like this will get you banned. This is the only warning you get.

krzna

next time u think of callin a mod that i am banning your ass. He said nothing wrong. You think these fancy ass supps are gonna give you what you want? Jkeith was giving the right advice. watch where u run ur mouth partner, am just about having enough of you.


the hell you know about inhibition at 15. do u even know how 6oxo's mimic with respect to the LH works? do you know what that means to you at 15? answer that...

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MyTMouse

agreed. at 15 your test levels are optimum for growing. that is all your body is centered on doing at this point. all your body knows how to do is grow.

products like Activate, ATD, and 6-OXO are probably not going to do you any good, and could possible do you some harm.

Especially considering possible effects on lutienizing hormone, you definitely don't want to screw that up. LH is what tells your body to make it's own test. you'd be commiting testosterone suicide in a sense.

I'm not going to tell you what to do, but I atleast recommend that you research the effects of hormone levels, 6-OXO, ATD, and the effects they have on your endocrine system before you try any of those things.

EDIT: by hormone levels, I mean more than just testosterone and estrogen. learn about all of the other "role-player" hormones as well. They seem small, but have a huge impact on how your body functions. Most importantly, when their levels are out of wack, they aren't as apparent as when your test. and estrogen levels get out of had. So they can be harder to detect. Just something to consider.

You can never read or learn too much. At least it will give you a better idea of what kind of decisions to make, and let you better predict what kind of things you are in for.

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beer20

good post,please read this prod1gy...

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MyTMouse

that is the most true statement bodybuilding has taught me. I can never have too much information, or learn too much. If we all have that attitude, I think we will all accel at this sport, and also be more apt to help one another.

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comfortable_pants

just go ahead and ban the dude already before he starts asking about nolva dosing for his upcoming deca/test-e cycle

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PROD1GY

lol i just want to know
see, this is where things go wrong
you have a young kid who doesnt know anything, and then you see them run a superdrol cycle at 60mg and say they cant erect.
if someone has their mind dead set, helping them will do more then trolling

beer20

your logic makes no sense.:crazy1:
do you want to not get erect either?:boink:

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PROD1GY

lol if im a virgin past 40 im going to commit suicide on prohormones
non the less
i just asked a few simple questions

beer20

well if you mess with 6oxo or ATD right now,you might not have a choice in the matter.

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MyTMouse

no THIS is where things go wrong.^^^^^

You have a kid that doesn't know anything, and then when others try to educate him or tell him how to EDUCATED HIMSELF, he decides he doesn't WANT to know anything.

noone here is trolling either. Everyone who has commented so far has been very constructive and given you nothing but good sincere advice, (with the exception of Krzna who simply asked you to be more respectful, which I feel it was his place to do so).

The simple fact is that everyone here is trying to help you. and you don't want to help yourself. and by helping yourself, i mean taking people's advice to heart and reading and learning things for yourself.

I was 14-15 when I started lifting. and when it came time to consider supplements, I researched Creatine monohydrate for nearly 8 months before I ever took my first dose. for those 8 months I read every single bit of info on Creatine I could get my hands on. This is in the form of logs of other bodybuilders, books that people wrote, reports from lab experiments, how creatine works in the body, the side effects, the benefits, how it interacts with other compounds, the list goes on.

I'm not saying you need to do all of that, because when I did it, I ran into a lot of the same info over and over again over that 8 month period. But you can bet yer bottom buck that when I started using creatine I knew exactly what to expect, and what I needed to do to be able to use it successfully.

Every supplement I have used since then I have researched just as much. Not for the same amount of time, necessarily, but just as thoroughly.

Questions never hurt, as long as they are intelligent questions, and you stay open to the advice you are given. You also have to be willing to do some footwork yourself, and take the initiative to learn.

I don't know why I'm wasting my breath, if your past posts are any indication, you wont read all of this anyway. but it needed to be said. If nothing else, maybe someone else will read it and actually get something out of it.

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PROD1GY

I did all my research too. I check everything, but slowly you realize "mono isnt bad" "no2 isnt bad" "this isnt bad" "ok, this is a little bad, but not too bad"

jkeithc82

This is great, no one says you can't research. I just have a problem with a 15 year old continuing to make threads asking about substances he really has no business putting in his body. I'd rather other 15 years old who may be possibly reading thread to know that stuff is NOT necessary at that age. You are not going to find many to give you advice on the matter here. Trust me, at 15 most of us were not thinking of X-Factor, 6-OXO, ATD, and the rest. Some of us actually got in the gym and busted ass and then ate, imagine that?

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