Name this exercise

Gappa238 · 07-02-2005, 10:15 PM

It starts out as a clean but instead of dropping the weight when you bring it up to shoulders, you finish by pressing the bar above your head.

Plus links to a video would be great too

**bigDman** · 07-02-2005, 10:24 PM

snatch?
http://strengthtraining.asimba.com/v...sic_snatch.avi

Gappa238 · 07-02-2005, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bigDman

snatch?
http://strengthtraining.asimba.com/v...sic_snatch.avi

Not quite, like this:

then:

sfiximo · 07-02-2005, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gappa238

Not quite, like this:

then:

Clean and Jerk
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...anAndJerk.html

Gappa238 · 07-02-2005, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sfiximo

Clean and Jerk
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...anAndJerk.html

Isn't there one where you don't have to kick your leg back?

Vegeto · 07-03-2005, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Gappa238

Isn't there one where you don't have to kick your leg back?

Yes, the leg kickback is a variation. (kind of like the difference between sumo deadlift and conventional deadlift.)

**johnsbod** · 07-03-2005, 12:26 AM

clean and press I would assume.

**Pj-Macx** · 07-03-2005, 10:38 AM

clean and jerk...

The Clean and Jerk is considered the "King of Lifts" because the most weight can be lifted overhead this way.

Unlike the Snatch the Clean and Jerk contains two motions. The barbell must be lifted from the platform to a tempory position at the shoulders(the clean). The the bar must be thrust in one continous motion from the shoulders to an overhead hold with out stretched arms(the jerk).

The bar is pulled from the platform to a height of about the waist using the strength of the legs, hips and back. Then the lifter pulls himself under the bar and catches it at the shoulders. The lifter can use either a fore and aft split of the legs or by dropping into a squat. The squat is much more common.

Once the bar is resting at the shoulders and chest, the lifter stands up by using his legs. From an erect position the lifter bends his knees slightly, explosively jumps upward, pushes the bar upward and splits his legs while lowering his body. This allows him to catch the bar at full extension of the arms. To complete the lift he must bring both feet on a line parallel with the shoulders.

Just like the Snatch, the lifters back is straight or arched. The lifter is standing flat on his feet, he should not be leaning forward on his toes.
The angle of his back stays the same till the bar is above the knees.

The above information was gotten at the following web site...

http://tomgorman.moonfruit.com/cleanandjerk

**Pioneer** · 07-03-2005, 12:03 PM

ive never done cleans (and clean jerks)

**ravadongon** · 07-03-2005, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Gappa238

Isn't there one where you don't have to kick your leg back?

that's the clean and press.

Brinn · 07-04-2005, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by johnsbod

clean and press I would assume.

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Originally Posted by ravadongon

that's the clean and press.

What they said.

Dan · 07-06-2005, 02:19 PM

it it a clean and jerk ..the kick back mainly comes into play when doing major amounts of weight.

**johnsbod** · 07-06-2005, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan

it it a clean and jerk ..the kick back mainly comes into play when doing major amounts of weight.

There's a press at the end which is why I'm assuming it's a clean and press.

MotorcityAl · 07-06-2005, 07:39 PM

Originally there were 3 Olympic lifts. The "Press", the "Snatch", and the "Clean and Jerk". The "Press" was eliminated because most lifters were using an extra back bend and some leg action in the press. The Russian lifters were using so much back bend that the lift resembled a standing bench press. Due to the controversy over whether a lift was good or not, it was simply eliminated leaving only the snatch and clean & jerk. There were 2 methods of cleaning (getting the weight from the platform to the chest in the clean and jerk, and of getting the weight directly from the platform to overhead). In the old days, most of the lifters used the "split" which was pulling the weight chest high, and then ducking under using a "lunge" type move (one leg squating with the other going behind for stability). The European lifters began doing the squat clean which was simply pulling the weight chest high, then squatting under the weight with the weight on the chest, feet parallel. The lifter would then stand up (if he could) and in the press/press it overhead with "minimal back bend and no knee action", and in the jerk, with knee action and back bend. The judges just got to lax (particularly in the case of the Russian lifters) in judging the press a "good" lift when in fact it was almost a jerk. Hope this clears up the issue.

DieselWeasel · 08-16-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gappa238

Not quite, like this:

then:

That picture is displaying a push press.

**Peaked_18** · 08-16-2005, 04:13 PM

LOL

I am surprised how many guys got that wrong.

Clean & Press it's very simple. "You Clean it up and then press it up..." There's your sign...

pammiejoe6 · 08-16-2005, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselWeasel

That picture is displaying a push press.

that was my guess...push press

Minotaur · 08-16-2005, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselWeasel

That picture is displaying a push press.

Yup. In a jerk, you drop under the bar with it extended overhead. In this video, he is not dropping under the bar. The ultimate information for olifting is the site of the late JV Askem. The site has been preserved here... http://jva.ontariostrongman.ca/

Apootheosis · 08-16-2005, 11:22 PM

lol have any of you even seen a clean and jerk, or snatch???

thats a clean and press, you can tell, because the first motion is a clean, while the second one is a push press

the combniation of the two result in a push press.

07-02-2005, 10:15 PM	#1
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07-03-2005, 10:38 AM	#8
Pj-Macx Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: 632 HP SS Posts: 4,089 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 75	clean and jerk... The Clean and Jerk is considered the "King of Lifts" because the most weight can be lifted overhead this way. Unlike the Snatch the Clean and Jerk contains two motions. The barbell must be lifted from the platform to a tempory position at the shoulders(the clean). The the bar must be thrust in one continous motion from the shoulders to an overhead hold with out stretched arms(the jerk). The bar is pulled from the platform to a height of about the waist using the strength of the legs, hips and back. Then the lifter pulls himself under the bar and catches it at the shoulders. The lifter can use either a fore and aft split of the legs or by dropping into a squat. The squat is much more common. Once the bar is resting at the shoulders and chest, the lifter stands up by using his legs. From an erect position the lifter bends his knees slightly, explosively jumps upward, pushes the bar upward and splits his legs while lowering his body. This allows him to catch the bar at full extension of the arms. To complete the lift he must bring both feet on a line parallel with the shoulders. Just like the Snatch, the lifters back is straight or arched. The lifter is standing flat on his feet, he should not be leaning forward on his toes. The angle of his back stays the same till the bar is above the knees. The above information was gotten at the following web site... http://tomgorman.moonfruit.com/cleanandjerk __________________ Co-Owner @ BodyBuildingXtreme 2002 Navy Blue Metallic Camaro SS "The Blue Ghost" # 10354 -=LME LSX 454ci built for N20=-

07-03-2005, 12:03 PM	#9
Pioneer Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,922 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 75	ive never done cleans (and clean jerks) __________________ "A Marine in battle fears disgracing himself by running. He fears not losing his life, but losing his honor. He may not be able to preserve his life, but he can always preserve his honor. That much is within his power... To fear disgrace but not death, to fear not duty but dereliction from duty -- this is courage." -FMFM 1-0 "Leading Marines" pg. 43 Drive on

07-06-2005, 02:19 PM	#12
Dan Unpaid Trash Collector Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,784 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 26	it it a clean and jerk ..the kick back mainly comes into play when doing major amounts of weight.

07-06-2005, 07:39 PM	#14
MotorcityAl Motorcity God Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Motor City Posts: 187 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Originally there were 3 Olympic lifts. The "Press", the "Snatch", and the "Clean and Jerk". The "Press" was eliminated because most lifters were using an extra back bend and some leg action in the press. The Russian lifters were using so much back bend that the lift resembled a standing bench press. Due to the controversy over whether a lift was good or not, it was simply eliminated leaving only the snatch and clean & jerk. There were 2 methods of cleaning (getting the weight from the platform to the chest in the clean and jerk, and of getting the weight directly from the platform to overhead). In the old days, most of the lifters used the "split" which was pulling the weight chest high, and then ducking under using a "lunge" type move (one leg squating with the other going behind for stability). The European lifters began doing the squat clean which was simply pulling the weight chest high, then squatting under the weight with the weight on the chest, feet parallel. The lifter would then stand up (if he could) and in the press/press it overhead with "minimal back bend and no knee action", and in the jerk, with knee action and back bend. The judges just got to lax (particularly in the case of the Russian lifters) in judging the press a "good" lift when in fact it was almost a jerk. Hope this clears up the issue. __________________ Body under construction.

08-16-2005, 04:13 PM	#16
Peaked_18 a la commode Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,297 Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96	LOL I am surprised how many guys got that wrong. Clean & Press it's very simple. "You Clean it up and then press it up..." There's your sign...

08-16-2005, 11:22 PM	#19
Apootheosis Pro Stature Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 626 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 10	lol have any of you even seen a clean and jerk, or snatch??? thats a clean and press, you can tell, because the first motion is a clean, while the second one is a push press the combniation of the two result in a push press.