lat bar pulldowns

guitardudeguy · 06-12-2007, 04:02 AM

with lat bar pulldowns, what is the difference between pulling it down in front to your chest, or behind you head to your neck?

thanks.

**bubba g** · 06-12-2007, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by guitardudeguy

with lat bar pulldowns, what is the difference between pulling it down in front to your chest, or behind you head to your neck?

thanks.

behind the neck just hits it at a different angle, it is effective, but it can be hard on your rotator cuffs.. It depend on the person though. Some people do them with no problems, and others can't do them.. the best thing to do is start with a lower weight, and do real strict slow reps, and increase gradualy to see if you are one of the people who have a problem with it..

keeping your elbows infront of you with a more narrow grip hits the lower lats most effectivly, so I think doing a wide grip behind the back will hit your upper lats very well... I seem to feel it more in my upper lats...

**madman911** · 06-12-2007, 04:31 AM

The main difference is that it's a lot easier to hurt yourself pulling down behind your head. You place yourself at high risk for a neck or shoulder injury. Some people insist that they feel a better contraction by pulling behind the head, but IMO, it is not worth the risk of injury. Pulling toward the front, you can go much heavier, which will give you better gains anyway.

XiLe Ultra · 08-12-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by madman911

The main difference is that it's a lot easier to hurt yourself pulling down behind your head. You place yourself at high risk for a neck or shoulder injury. Some people insist that they feel a better contraction by pulling behind the head, but IMO, it is not worth the risk of injury. Pulling toward the front, you can go much heavier, which will give you better gains anyway.

x2, plus leaning back a little IMO hits everything better.

Vario · 08-13-2007, 04:14 AM

I like doing a few behind the neck sets with a really light weight to stretch abit after doing heavy front pulldowns/pullups.

**romanaz** · 08-13-2007, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by madman911

The main difference is that it's a lot easier to hurt yourself pulling down behind your head. You place yourself at high risk for a neck or shoulder injury. Some people insist that they feel a better contraction by pulling behind the head, but IMO, it is not worth the risk of injury. Pulling toward the front, you can go much heavier, which will give you better gains anyway.

take a risk for chrisst's sake

**madman911** · 08-13-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by romanaz

take a risk for chrisst's sake

Me, risk... not gonna happen.

I keep refining my pulldowns and my back work in general. Now, when I do wide-grip, my preference is to use a bar that has the grips on the outside, allowing a hammer grip to be used, and I pull straight down with little to no leaning back. Staying vertical ensures a full lat contraction; if you lean back too much, the traps and rear delts are engaged more than the lats. I see some people leaning so far back, they might as well be doing face-pulls.

Glad you revived this thread now, ain't ya'.

**haiz69** · 08-13-2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by madman911

Me, risk... not gonna happen.

I keep refining my pulldowns and my back work in general. Now, when I do wide-grip, my preference is to use a bar that has the grips on the outside, allowing a hammer grip to be used, and I pull straight down with little to no leaning back. Staying vertical ensures a full lat contraction; if you lean back too much, the traps and rear delts are engaged more than the lats. I see some people leaning so far back, they might as well be doing face-pulls.

Glad you revived this thread now, ain't ya'.

I too like the hammer-grip style ones. Awesome for Lower Lat Contraction.

TheRock · 08-14-2007, 12:03 AM

The difference is, doing them to the front is safer and more effective.

2 HUGE · 09-06-2007, 03:59 AM

Ive never liked doing pulldowns to the rear. Always felt like my shoulders werent moving nicely, so to speak, an unnatural movement. The main difference is behind the neck hits the lower part of the lats and infront of the neck his the centre part of the lats

06-12-2007, 04:02 AM	#1
guitardudeguy New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 16 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	lat bar pulldowns with lat bar pulldowns, what is the difference between pulling it down in front to your chest, or behind you head to your neck? thanks.

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madman911 Metamorphosizing Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston Area Posts: 1,523 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 60	Re: lat bar pulldowns The main difference is that it's a lot easier to hurt yourself pulling down behind your head. You place yourself at high risk for a neck or shoulder injury. Some people insist that they feel a better contraction by pulling behind the head, but IMO, it is not worth the risk of injury. Pulling toward the front, you can go much heavier, which will give you better gains anyway. __________________ Millennium Sport Technologies Sponsored Athlete http://www.millenniumsport.net IMPC 2006 Novice Division Champ IMPC 2007 Open Division Champ Never underestimate the power of the bandana.

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Vario Pro Stature Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 286 Recipes: 1 Rep Power: 12	Re: lat bar pulldowns I like doing a few behind the neck sets with a really light weight to stretch abit after doing heavy front pulldowns/pullups. __________________ 165-181 Class Current - (Season Goal) Bench: 235(275), Squat: 385+(405), Deadlift: 420(500), Standing Press: 165 (185)

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TheRock Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 419 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 37	Re: lat bar pulldowns The difference is, doing them to the front is safer and more effective. __________________ B3457 daß Scheiße

09-06-2007, 03:59 AM	#10
2 HUGE Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 157 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 25	Re: lat bar pulldowns Ive never liked doing pulldowns to the rear. Always felt like my shoulders werent moving nicely, so to speak, an unnatural movement. The main difference is behind the neck hits the lower part of the lats and infront of the neck his the centre part of the lats

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