Inconsistent Squats- Advice Anyone? - Page 2

**DJSTARER** · 11-08-2006, 02:46 PM

that vid elabortes how much the squat is more of a "fold" than it is a "lunging" or true "squating" motion. Thing like a lawnchair.

jimmyhots · 11-08-2006, 02:54 PM

Yeah I see what you guys are talkiing about, the videos are good. My long-ass spider legs aren't really built for folding up. In a way deads are more natural for me but I wanna squat! I appreciate all your advice, will take it into consideration and see what happens...

JH

**DJSTARER** · 11-08-2006, 03:10 PM

glad you feel that way. although pulling is essential, squating really is a better leg exercise, hands down.

**bubba g** · 11-08-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyhots

Yeah I see what you guys are talkiing about, the videos are good. My long-ass spider legs aren't really built for folding up. In a way deads are more natural for me but I wanna squat! I appreciate all your advice, will take it into consideration and see what happens...

JH

it is a balancing act.. It takes a while to get your ballance right when you are squatting, but no matter how long your legs are you can do them with proper form...

Like DJ said Deads, are great, and should be done as well as squats, not as a replacment..

try to post another video once you correct your form... basicly all you need to do is stick your ass out further, and transfrer weight onto your heels.. lower the weight while you are working on your form.. I had a video beforet hat demonstrated it perfectly, but I can't find it...

**powerman2000** · 11-08-2006, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyhots

Okay per Romanaz's request here's a short vid of me squatting (couple warm-ups):

Your critiques would be much appreciated!

Jimmy

I thought your form looked pretty good. As long as your knees aren't going past your feet, which they weren't, then it's all good.

I wouldn't recommend continuing to squat in your bare feet.

**powerman2000** · 11-08-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba g

Like DJ said Deads, are great, and should be done as well as squats, not as a replacment..

Especially for someone who's just starting out. I can't emphasize this enough.

**bubba g** · 11-08-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

I thought your form looked pretty good. As long as your knees aren't going past your feet, which they weren't, then it's all good.

I wouldn't recommend continuing to squat in your bare feet.

Pause the video when he is at the bottom of the squat, and tell me if you still think his knees weren't going past his toes..

Pay attention to his feet, most of his weight is on the balls of his feet, and not the heels..

His form is good aside from that..

**powerman2000** · 11-08-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba g

Pause the video when he is at the bottom of the squat, and tell me if you still think his knees weren't going past his toes..

Pay attention to his feet, most of his weight is on the balls of his feet, and not the heels..

His form is good aside from that..

Like you said earlier, it's just a matter of proper balancing.

Pushing up on a squat from the balls or our feet happens to everyone during a long lifting career. I know I've lost balance before and had to push up from a less than flat footed position before. It happens to me on DL too sometimes.

jimmyhots · 11-09-2006, 03:48 AM

i think i understand what you guys are saying about getting the weight back on the balls of the feet. i've been practicing without weight so friday or sat i'll be doing squats again & will post another vid to see if i do any better. i do suspect that i might have subtle probs with form that keep me from generating maximum power out of the bottom.

ah powerman2000 i love working out bare feet why do you suggest against it? no arch support + heavy weight maybe?

all the vids posted help a lot but i gotta say bubba g the one you posted of the girl squatting is ah... interesting. "so how was it? hard, very hard". indeed. the lifting seminar i think romanaz posted was good too i learned a some things from that.

jh

**romanaz** · 11-09-2006, 04:22 AM

doesn't bigD squat barefoot? or he uses wrestling shoes. I'm getting a pair of chucks soon to use.

keep your weight on your heels and all should be fine. besides that your form is good.

**DJSTARER** · 11-09-2006, 04:27 AM

yeah. archless shoes. PLers make up 56% of all Chuck Converse sales worldwide. I think the only reason against barefoot is it's dangerous for your toes (dropped weights)

jimmyhots · 11-10-2006, 05:17 PM

I was looking through my training log and noticed something kinda interesting. I started squatting at 60 pounds for about 10 reps. Man I was a stick, still am basically. Anyway every week I added 10 lbs until I got to 130 lbs, at which point I couldn't lift 130, so at that session I dropped to 120, couldn't lift that either, so dropped to 110. Then I did 110 lbs for two weeks. Then went to 120 and after that added 10 lbs a week until I got to 140 lbs. Then was stuck at 140 for several weeks. Then went to 150 for a few weeks, then 160 and so on.

So it seems that I hit a flat spot or plateau every 20 lbs or so. Sometimes when I hit a flat spot I have to drop 10 lbs for a week or two, sometimes I'm stuck at the same weight for one to four weeks. Is that what these are, little plateaus? Is that normal?

I'd appreciate anyone's perspective on this!

Jimmy

**romanaz** · 11-11-2006, 05:22 AM

everyone gains differently, some people gain slowly, others in burst. I know I for one gain/lose in spurts. ex: my deadlift just jumped 70+lbs in 3-4 weeks. Thats just how I am.

Could be a trend.

**NYCmitch25** · 11-11-2006, 01:08 PM

20 rep squat is fine, continue with that.

this is the problem with forums tend of over-analize a bit. hes so new to lifting he just need to keep doing squats. you will get better. high rep ranges have a bad rap on this site LOL. work on the form of coarse. you probably are trying to lift too much too soon?

jimmyhots · 11-16-2006, 10:52 PM

I posted another vid of me squatting, dropped the weight way down to work on form a bit & still doing 20 reps. I will eventually try fewer reps as some of you suggested, but I don't want to give up on 20-reps until I feel I've made some headway.

Critiques would be appreciated!

Jimmy

**Peaked_18** · 11-16-2006, 11:05 PM

Keep arch in your back.

**romanaz** · 11-17-2006, 12:10 AM

pull ur shoulder blades back and keep ur lower back tight

11-08-2006, 02:46 PM	#31
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,104 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 115	that vid elabortes how much the squat is more of a "fold" than it is a "lunging" or true "squating" motion. Thing like a lawnchair. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

11-08-2006, 03:10 PM	#33
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,104 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 115	glad you feel that way. although pulling is essential, squating really is a better leg exercise, hands down. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

11-09-2006, 04:27 AM	#41
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,104 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 115	yeah. archless shoes. PLers make up 56% of all Chuck Converse sales worldwide. I think the only reason against barefoot is it's dangerous for your toes (dropped weights) __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

11-11-2006, 01:08 PM	#44
NYCmitch25 Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,102 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 51	20 rep squat is fine, continue with that. this is the problem with forums tend of over-analize a bit. hes so new to lifting he just need to keep doing squats. you will get better. high rep ranges have a bad rap on this site LOL. work on the form of coarse. you probably are trying to lift too much too soon? __________________ "I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds." - Rollins

11-08-2006, 02:54 PM	#32
jimmyhots New Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 20 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Yeah I see what you guys are talkiing about, the videos are good. My long-ass spider legs aren't really built for folding up. In a way deads are more natural for me but I wanna squat! I appreciate all your advice, will take it into consideration and see what happens... JH

11-09-2006, 03:48 AM	#39
jimmyhots New Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 20 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	i think i understand what you guys are saying about getting the weight back on the balls of the feet. i've been practicing without weight so friday or sat i'll be doing squats again & will post another vid to see if i do any better. i do suspect that i might have subtle probs with form that keep me from generating maximum power out of the bottom. ah powerman2000 i love working out bare feet why do you suggest against it? no arch support + heavy weight maybe? all the vids posted help a lot but i gotta say bubba g the one you posted of the girl squatting is ah... interesting. "so how was it? hard, very hard". indeed. the lifting seminar i think romanaz posted was good too i learned a some things from that. jh

11-10-2006, 05:17 PM	#42
jimmyhots New Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 20 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	I was looking through my training log and noticed something kinda interesting. I started squatting at 60 pounds for about 10 reps. Man I was a stick, still am basically. Anyway every week I added 10 lbs until I got to 130 lbs, at which point I couldn't lift 130, so at that session I dropped to 120, couldn't lift that either, so dropped to 110. Then I did 110 lbs for two weeks. Then went to 120 and after that added 10 lbs a week until I got to 140 lbs. Then was stuck at 140 for several weeks. Then went to 150 for a few weeks, then 160 and so on. So it seems that I hit a flat spot or plateau every 20 lbs or so. Sometimes when I hit a flat spot I have to drop 10 lbs for a week or two, sometimes I'm stuck at the same weight for one to four weeks. Is that what these are, little plateaus? Is that normal? I'd appreciate anyone's perspective on this! Jimmy

11-16-2006, 10:52 PM	#45
jimmyhots New Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 20 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	I posted another vid of me squatting, dropped the weight way down to work on form a bit & still doing 20 reps. I will eventually try fewer reps as some of you suggested, but I don't want to give up on 20-reps until I feel I've made some headway. Critiques would be appreciated! Jimmy

11-16-2006, 11:05 PM	#46
Peaked_18 a la commode Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,247 Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96	Keep arch in your back.