How much can you guys lift on this exercise?

A_N_91 · 03-02-2006, 01:48 AM

The mother of all exercises...the tricep kickback

Really...how much do you guys lift on kickbacks for 6-12 reps?

**Blap Blaow** · 03-02-2006, 02:01 AM

I don't do kickbacks- they make my elbows feel REALLY uncomfortable :evil:

**DJSTARER** · 03-02-2006, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by A_N_91

The mother of all exercises...the tricep kickback

Really...how much do you guys lift on kickbacks for 6-12 reps?

I hope, and am pretty sure, you are being sarcastic. I suppose i don't know.... but it would be sick if someone was kicking back like 70 lbs DBs...

**powerman2000** · 03-02-2006, 11:16 AM

Sorry, I don't waste my time on kickbacks.

**bubba g** · 03-02-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

Sorry, I don't waste my time on kickbacks.

Ronnie Coleman does them... lol

METAL VIPER · 03-02-2006, 07:04 PM

If I had to do only 1 exercise, it of course would be tricep kickbacks...

A_N_91 · 03-02-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJSTARER

I hope, and am pretty sure, you are being sarcastic. I suppose i don't know.... but it would be sick if someone was kicking back like 70 lbs DBs...

Yeah, I'm just joking, lol. I've seen one person do kickbacks with 60 lbs at my old gym before.

**powerman2000** · 03-02-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba g

Ronnie Coleman does them... lol

C'mon bubba, you know as well as I that with great genetics and lots of gear that anyone can get huge with lousy training methods. From a technical standpoint RC is a lousy lifter. He is sloppy and never appears to stay tight during his lifts. So, just because a huge BBer with great genetics and who uses lots of gear does kickbacks doesn't mean that kickbacks are even close to being an optimal exercise for one's triceps.

A_N_91 · 03-02-2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

C'mon bubba, you know as well as I that with great genetics and lots of gear that anyone can get huge with lousy training methods. From a technical standpoint RC is a lousy lifter. He is sloppy and never appears to stay tight during his lifts. So, just because a huge BBer with great genetics and who uses lots of gear does kickbacks doesn't mean that kickbacks are even close to being an optimal exercise for one's triceps.

Lol, I think bubba knows that. He was just kiddin, lol.

METAL VIPER · 03-02-2006, 11:03 PM

NO ONE SPEAK ILL OF THE TRICEP KICKBACK!!!

**powerman2000** · 03-02-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by A_N_91

Lol, I think bubba knows that. He was just kiddin, lol.

:o :o :o

A_N_91 · 03-02-2006, 11:14 PM

This is kinda off-topic, but powerman, your back is sick. Is your deadlift the same as years ago or did it decrease?

**powerman2000** · 03-02-2006, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by A_N_91

This is kinda off-topic, but powerman, your back is sick. Is your deadlift the same as years ago or did it decrease?

It has decreased of course, but that is because I'm not a PLer anymore. I DL off and on still and I've still been able to complete a 545 lb DL not long ago. Most recently, late last year, I was performing sets of 5 reps with 455 lbs.

DL was never my strongest lift since my best ever is only 650 lbs.

marlon · 03-03-2006, 02:58 AM

I used to kickback til i heard it sucks and no one does them.... but why do they suck?

**bubba g** · 03-03-2006, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

C'mon bubba, you know as well as I that with great genetics and lots of gear that anyone can get huge with lousy training methods. From a technical standpoint RC is a lousy lifter. He is sloppy and never appears to stay tight during his lifts. So, just because a huge BBer with great genetics and who uses lots of gear does kickbacks doesn't mean that kickbacks are even close to being an optimal exercise for one's triceps.

I was kidding... I am sure he just does them to get blood to the muscle.. I never do them, I think they are a waste.

Ronnie lifts like every other pro.. It is an adaptive training technique.
the way he trains puts far more load on the muscle. The pros lift for a job, and their livelyhood depends on being the best at their sport. If they would get better results using lighter weight with strict form, and slow reps you better believe they would be lifting that way.

It is a more dangerous way to lift, and not for beginners....

**bubba g** · 03-03-2006, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by marlon

I used to kickback til i heard it sucks and no one does them.... but why do they suck?

there are just far better exercises out there..

close grip bench press, reverse bench press, skull crushers, push downs etc.

**powerman2000** · 03-03-2006, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bubba g

I was kidding...

I'm sorry about that. I'm embarrassed.

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Originally Posted by bubba g

Ronnie lifts like every other pro.. It is an adaptive training technique.
the way he trains puts far more load on the muscle. The pros lift for a job, and their livelyhood depends on being the best at their sport. If they would get better results using lighter weight with strict form, and slow reps you better believe they would be lifting that way.

It is a more dangerous way to lift, and not for beginners....

While I agree that many other top pros lift that way (sloppy), I have also seen many who don't. He can still lift with the same explosiveness and speed without looking so out of control. Just my opinion.

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03-02-2006, 01:48 AM	#1
A_N_91 Pro Stature Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 849 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	How much can you guys lift on this exercise? The mother of all exercises...the tricep kickback Really...how much do you guys lift on kickbacks for 6-12 reps?

03-02-2006, 02:01 AM	#2
Blap Blaow IronMass Sponsor Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 950 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 31	I don't do kickbacks- they make my elbows feel REALLY uncomfortable :evil: __________________ Blapmungous™

03-02-2006, 11:16 AM	#4
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03-02-2006, 07:04 PM	#6
METAL VIPER SEEK & DESTROY Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 542 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 46	If I had to do only 1 exercise, it of course would be tricep kickbacks... __________________ \m/ METALLICA \m/ R.I.P. Cliff Burton:2/10/62-9/26/86 DIE, by my hand, I creep across the land, killing first born man

03-02-2006, 11:03 PM	#10
METAL VIPER SEEK & DESTROY Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 542 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 46	NO ONE SPEAK ILL OF THE TRICEP KICKBACK!!! __________________ \m/ METALLICA \m/ R.I.P. Cliff Burton:2/10/62-9/26/86 DIE, by my hand, I creep across the land, killing first born man

03-02-2006, 11:14 PM	#12
A_N_91 Pro Stature Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 849 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	This is kinda off-topic, but powerman, your back is sick. Is your deadlift the same as years ago or did it decrease?

03-03-2006, 02:58 AM	#14
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