Is front squat really necessary?at all? - Page 2

**BobThePotato** · 01-04-2006, 07:50 PM

front squats hurt my knees

strongman72 · 01-05-2006, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BobThePotato

front squats hurt my knees

Standard squats hurt my knees!But it's only because of my stance, i'm working on in right now!

A_N_91 · 01-05-2006, 02:33 AM

I used to do a stance that was very comfortable for me but my friend told me to try a closer stance, about little more than shoulder to get more quads work. I tried that and messed up my knees, so now I go when I feel comfortable, I don't go by a measurement.

A_N_91

BiGgYmRaT · 09-30-2006, 01:54 AM

If you cant do them, you cant do them...but if you can, you totally should! They are an AWESOME Quad builder!

strongman72 · 10-01-2006, 02:17 AM

I haven't done them in quite some time.Im thinking about getting back into them.But it wouldn't be till off-season.

Vegeto · 10-01-2006, 04:03 AM

One thing I like about front squats is that they make it necessary keep the torso fairly perpendicular to the ground. I've seen a lot of back squatters use their lower back to move the weight durring the final reps of a set, they end up with some kind of squat/goodmorning hybrid. Front squat doesn't allow this, or you loose the bar. For squatters who haven't developed much skill for ground reaction force and biomechanics, the front squat makes an excelent test to weed out bad habbits that people who focus only on the back squat may develope.

^That being said, I really have no opinion on whether or not they are necessary for powerlifters or bodybuilders.

**DJSTARER** · 10-02-2006, 03:40 AM

who cares about quads anyway... it's all about the posterior when it comes to squating.

**asianbabe** · 10-31-2006, 10:39 AM

I like both front and back squats.. though front squats are becoming a new favourite..they really hit the quads hard!

**bigDman** · 10-31-2006, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by powerman2000

Typically, I think front squats are less dangerous for the back mainly because of the fact that you'll be using much less weight as compared with back squats.

and its harder to have bad form. If your form is off to much you will have to dump the bar

navarone · 10-31-2006, 12:47 PM

i like both personally, but my knees hurt no matter what ne ways.

kethnaab · 10-31-2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sulcop

Here is the link to the front squat harness. This will put some ire on the quads :nosthumbs

http://frontsquatharness.com/New-Template-for-FSH.htm

Sully

I have one of these, and I will vouch for it. Incredible piece of equipment.

RaSP · 10-31-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by navarone

i like both personally, but my knees hurt no matter what ne ways.

How do your knees hurt?

I have trouble with the tendons just above my knee caps if I don't warm up enough. Knees can also be a problem if your hams are too tight. I have to do some serious ham stretches and warmups before I can squat without knee pain.

*R*

Frank_the_tank · 10-31-2006, 08:17 PM

I like back squats but only because I have an ego problem and heavy=better to me. But I did front squats last leg day and they really hammered my quads. Its always good to switch it up.

Yardicus · 10-31-2006, 09:07 PM

IMHO zercher squats > front squats unless you're using FS's for a specific purpose

Frank_the_tank · 10-31-2006, 09:41 PM

I've done Zercher squats before. They look they'll be pretty hard on your arms.. Do you bad the bar or do them bare?

kethnaab · 10-31-2006, 09:43 PM

i've done zercher's with knee pads wrapped backwards around my "elbow pits"

they were cool, but a totally different exercise, IMHO. They had different feel, different useage to me

shanetrain1973 · 10-31-2006, 10:06 PM

A lot of people never do them. I tried them once and it was too uncomfortable for me (but I'm sure the more I tried them...)

Yardicus · 10-31-2006, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank_the_tank

I've done Zercher squats before. They look they'll be pretty hard on your arms.. Do you bad the bar or do them bare?

bare..you get used to it after a few times

when i was at my best in strongman, i was at a 420lb zercher squat, and was using over 800lbs for zercher lockouts

Frank_the_tank · 11-01-2006, 12:23 AM

Wow nice squats.

Right now I'm only at 405 for back squats. So I'll probably just start with 135 until I nail the form and start to feel comfortable with it.

The only time I've ever seen a zercher squat was diesel wiesels videos.

kethnaab · 11-01-2006, 05:38 AM

damn, never went over 4 wheels for zercher deadlifts.

01-04-2006, 07:50 PM	#31
BobThePotato Nublarsaurusrex Join Date: May 2005 Location: Calgary//Alberta Posts: 513 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 21	front squats hurt my knees __________________ "Geadelt ist wer Schmerzen kennt vom Feuer das in Lust verbrennt."

09-30-2006, 01:54 AM	#34
BiGgYmRaT Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: WA Posts: 115 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 7	If you cant do them, you cant do them...but if you can, you totally should! They are an AWESOME Quad builder! __________________ Proud Member of the Quarter Ton Deadlift Club Powerbuilders dont sweat...WE BLEED! Pain is weakness leaving the body! Work Hard Play Hard! Go Heavy or Go Home!

10-01-2006, 02:17 AM	#35
strongman72 Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 205 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 10	I haven't done them in quite some time.Im thinking about getting back into them.But it wouldn't be till off-season. __________________ Runnin in 30 degree weather,rain -guy says to me "What they hell are you runnin in this for,you're crazy!" I laugh and say, "Na just dedicated!":bass: 2006 POWERLIFTING REGIONAL QUALIFIER UPDATE Status-STILL WORKING TO GET TO THE TOP Age:17 Bench: 300 (315) Incline: 250 Squat: 445 (465) Power Clean: 225 (235) Deadlift: 500 Raw - Due to a torn quad injury it has gone down. () are goals that are to be done in 3 months.

10-01-2006, 04:03 AM	#36
Vegeto blameless sinner Join Date: May 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 803 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 15	One thing I like about front squats is that they make it necessary keep the torso fairly perpendicular to the ground. I've seen a lot of back squatters use their lower back to move the weight durring the final reps of a set, they end up with some kind of squat/goodmorning hybrid. Front squat doesn't allow this, or you loose the bar. For squatters who haven't developed much skill for ground reaction force and biomechanics, the front squat makes an excelent test to weed out bad habbits that people who focus only on the back squat may develope. ^That being said, I really have no opinion on whether or not they are necessary for powerlifters or bodybuilders. __________________ ______________ ________________ ......Busy Training...... __________________ ________________ __________________

10-02-2006, 03:40 AM	#37
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,166 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 116	who cares about quads anyway... it's all about the posterior when it comes to squating. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

01-05-2006, 02:33 AM	#33
A_N_91 Pro Stature Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 849 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	I used to do a stance that was very comfortable for me but my friend told me to try a closer stance, about little more than shoulder to get more quads work. I tried that and messed up my knees, so now I go when I feel comfortable, I don't go by a measurement. A_N_91

10-31-2006, 10:39 AM	#38
asianbabe IronMass Sponsor Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 62 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	I like both front and back squats.. though front squats are becoming a new favourite..they really hit the quads hard!

10-31-2006, 12:47 PM	#40
navarone Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 930 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 52	i like both personally, but my knees hurt no matter what ne ways. __________________ Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated Stats: Weight: Between 200-205 depending on the day Bench: 265X5 atm. Squat: 360X5 atm.. Higest Ever 435 Deadlift: 420X3 Waist: 34 Arms: 17.5 cold . Pics Finally! http://www.ironmass.com/f16/nav-s-1-...ulk-12947.html

10-31-2006, 08:17 PM	#43
Frank_the_tank Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 396 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	I like back squats but only because I have an ego problem and heavy=better to me. But I did front squats last leg day and they really hammered my quads. Its always good to switch it up.

10-31-2006, 09:07 PM	#44
Yardicus Cutting Yardie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 918 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 26	IMHO zercher squats > front squats unless you're using FS's for a specific purpose

10-31-2006, 09:41 PM	#45
Frank_the_tank Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 396 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	I've done Zercher squats before. They look they'll be pretty hard on your arms.. Do you bad the bar or do them bare?

10-31-2006, 09:43 PM	#46
kethnaab Amateur Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 81 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	i've done zercher's with knee pads wrapped backwards around my "elbow pits" they were cool, but a totally different exercise, IMHO. They had different feel, different useage to me

10-31-2006, 10:06 PM	#47
shanetrain1973 Amateur Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 52 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	A lot of people never do them. I tried them once and it was too uncomfortable for me (but I'm sure the more I tried them...)

11-01-2006, 12:23 AM	#49
Frank_the_tank Pro Stature Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 396 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Wow nice squats. Right now I'm only at 405 for back squats. So I'll probably just start with 135 until I nail the form and start to feel comfortable with it. The only time I've ever seen a zercher squat was diesel wiesels videos.

11-01-2006, 05:38 AM	#50
kethnaab Amateur Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 81 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	damn, never went over 4 wheels for zercher deadlifts.