Are barbell rows necessary for a good back? - Page 2

**SDFlipStyle** · 10-09-2005, 02:39 PM

welcome to the forum, aqua, thanks for the compliment

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i want to do TBar rows but my gym doesn't have a setup for it and they discourage people from doing them in corners alone after 3 mirrors were broken from the bar slipping.

aqua-beowulf · 10-09-2005, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SDFlipStyle

welcome to the forum, aqua, thanks for the compliment

!

i want to do TBar rows but my gym doesn't have a setup for it and they discourage people from doing them in corners alone after 3 mirrors were broken from the bar slipping.

I work out solely at home, but I bought one of those tbar row brackets, and attached it to my power rack base. I think it was like $50 or so... shame your gym wouldn't invest in one.
I've actually been a member here for a while, but due to unfamiliar faces, have not been posting much. Now that all the "regulars" are starting to join up, we need to crank things up around here.

**davtown** · 08-16-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Wassung

My Training Journal Notes on BB Rows-

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Keith Wassung

I was going through some old threads and found this post.... figured it was worth a bump.

**romanaz** · 08-16-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by davtown

I was going through some old threads and found this post.... figured it was worth a bump.

one should note as well:

rosin is ok for a commercial gym, but don't expect it to be a chalk replacement.

satyricon · 09-02-2007, 07:37 PM

start doing progressive pulls.but be safe about it cuz you need heavy weights. if you dont know about progressive pulls you start with power cleans add ## do high pulls add## do rows add## do deadlifts. simple. nothing will pack the mass on your back like these will.

danman77220 · 09-02-2007, 08:18 PM

I think BB rows are the best rowing exercise for your back for gaining mass. If you struggle with form, simply drop the weight to a point where you can do it perfect and work there for a while to get it down, then slowly progress upward in weight. That's what I'm in the middle of doing right now. Everyone struggles with it a bit at first, but don't completely throw them out the window, they're way too advantageous. T-Bar rows never did much for me. However, T-Bar rows where your chest is supported are great.

**romanaz** · 09-02-2007, 09:10 PM

imo a good back is built by pullups or deadlifts.

danman77220 · 09-03-2007, 12:16 AM

Same here, that's why I said BB rows are the best rowing exercise for your back.

**romanaz** · 09-04-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by danman77220

Same here, that's why I said BB rows are the best rowing exercise for your back.

technically speaking a pullup/chinup is a row. pulling towards yourself is a row.

=D:geek:

**haiz69** · 09-04-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by romanaz

technically speaking a pullup/chinup is a row. pulling towards yourself is a row.

=D:geek:

Tricky boy...

**DJSTARER** · 09-04-2007, 09:55 PM

deadlift.

nothing better.

**haiz69** · 09-05-2007, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DJSTARER

deadlift.

nothing better.

I'm partial to higher rep Rack Deadlifts and HEAVY regular deadlifts, alternated week to week.

**romanaz** · 09-05-2007, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DJSTARER

deadlift.

nothing better.

if you REALLY want to get technical, snatch grip deadlifts, or some powercleans or snatchs.

nothing builds a strong back like pulling heavy weights overhead and holdin them there =D

**DJSTARER** · 09-05-2007, 04:26 PM

i wasn't getting technical ROM, i was just making a point that a deadlift only back routine will build a natural lifter's back as big, thick and wide as any other exercise/ combination thereof

2 HUGE · 09-06-2007, 05:05 AM

Personally, as a bodybuilder, rows in general are necessary for a good back. Whether it be barbells or dumbbells. Also dont underestimate cable rows

builtbeast · 09-06-2007, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ihateeveryone

Some sort of free weight row is needed.

Yup. Heavy rows have been essential in building up my back.

09-02-2007, 07:37 PM	#35
satyricon Amateur Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 36 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Re: Are barbell rows necessary for a good back? start doing progressive pulls.but be safe about it cuz you need heavy weights. if you dont know about progressive pulls you start with power cleans add ## do high pulls add## do rows add## do deadlifts. simple. nothing will pack the mass on your back like these will.

09-02-2007, 08:18 PM	#36
danman77220 Pro Stature Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,030 Recipes: 1 Rep Power: 50	Re: Are barbell rows necessary for a good back? I think BB rows are the best rowing exercise for your back for gaining mass. If you struggle with form, simply drop the weight to a point where you can do it perfect and work there for a while to get it down, then slowly progress upward in weight. That's what I'm in the middle of doing right now. Everyone struggles with it a bit at first, but don't completely throw them out the window, they're way too advantageous. T-Bar rows never did much for me. However, T-Bar rows where your chest is supported are great. __________________ Accomplishment tastes better than cheesecake. Stats(/goals): Age: 18 Weight: 193 BF%: 19%/8% Max Lifts B: Poop S: Pee D: Status: Gaining back strength and size after tonsillectomy My Training Log

09-03-2007, 12:16 AM	#38
danman77220 Pro Stature Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,030 Recipes: 1 Rep Power: 50	Re: Are barbell rows necessary for a good back? Same here, that's why I said BB rows are the best *rowing* exercise for your back. __________________ Accomplishment tastes better than cheesecake. Stats(/goals): Age: 18 Weight: 193 BF%: 19%/8% Max Lifts B: Poop S: Pee D: Status: Gaining back strength and size after tonsillectomy My Training Log

09-04-2007, 09:55 PM	#41
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,166 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 116	Re: Are barbell rows necessary for a good back? deadlift. nothing better. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

09-05-2007, 04:26 PM	#44
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,166 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 116	Re: Are barbell rows necessary for a good back? i wasn't getting technical ROM, i was just making a point that a deadlift only back routine will build a natural lifter's back as big, thick and wide as any other exercise/ combination thereof __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

10-09-2005, 02:39 PM	#31
SDFlipStyle Silver Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: RAF Lakenheath, England Posts: 52 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	welcome to the forum, aqua, thanks for the compliment ! i want to do TBar rows but my gym doesn't have a setup for it and they discourage people from doing them in corners alone after 3 mirrors were broken from the bar slipping.

09-06-2007, 05:05 AM	#45
2 HUGE Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 157 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 26	Re: Are barbell rows necessary for a good back? Personally, as a bodybuilder, rows in general are necessary for a good back. Whether it be barbells or dumbbells. Also dont underestimate cable rows