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Old 12-04-2005, 03:06 PM   #121
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Diet: CHEAT DAY!!!!!!!
Boy did i go all out, sorta kinda, i had to work all day so i mainly ate everything bad there, but i had LOTS OF CRACKERS WITH WHIP CREAM ON THEM!!! I LOVE WHIP CREAM SO THAT VERY YUMMY!! :snack: then i made me a sandwich that consisted of, toasted white bread, lettuce, tomato, ham, 4 strips of bacon, and lots of honey! god that thing was good!!!, then i ate more crackers with whip cream, then later i had some country fried steak and mashed potatos with gravy, then i had nothing else bc my stomach was soooo tight i couldnt stomach anything else, needless to say my stomach was hurting ALL night lol....but damn that was a good cheat day.

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Weights: Chest and Triceps And abs
Flat Bench 3x10/8/8
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Meal 1: Oats, fish oil
Meal 2: .5c CC, pineapples, fish oil
Meal 3: tuna, now potatoes
Meal 4: CHINESE FOOD!! (couldnt help it, me and dad were out shopping for mom and we just decided to eat that!! god was it good)
Meal 5: CC, .5tbsp PB
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You no wat....i'm tired of all of this! Since like 3 months ago no matter what the hell i do my weight wont drop....not even with a shit load of cardio, which as u can tell i dont do, but i did do A LOT of cardio a while back (within the last 3 months) and the scale still wouldnt move....i then lowered my cals by 300, etc....etc....and still NOTHING!! if anything i gain ****ing weight!! So now i'm gonna do something that i never thought i would do...............


LOW CARB DIET!!!! :crazy1:

God i remember when this first came out and i said i would never do it bc of the lack of energy and moodiness etc....etc....but this is all i can think of....and to be honest, i think i'm carb sensitive, when tho i was cutting with 180-200g of carbs a day, is it possible to all of a sudden get carb sensitive or wat???

But anyways i'm gonna carb cycle sorta kinda
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That being Monday-Sunday, see how this goes, i'm gonna start 2morrow tho (tuesday) so we'll see how this goes, i no pammiejoe is on it and has seen good results and i no it works so thats not a concern....pray for me! :fingersxd

Wat cant i eat? Would i have to cut out the oatmeal? i no i'm gonna DEFINETLY have to live off of tuna and chic, egg whites, fruit is a no-no , and potatoes are out, veggies are always good! rice is out, wat else? Tell me things i CAN eat v. things i cant!! lol
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I'm a huge advocate of low carb dieting (read high fat dieting) not just as a weight loss method, but as a way of life. Doing a *proper* high fat diet will completely change the way you look at nutrition forever.

Things you can eat? Broccoli, cauliflower, most nuts (walnuts, almonds, pecans), salad greens, bellpeppers, or anything else which is under 5g of "net carbs" per serving.

But before telling you what you can or can not eat... I'd like to recommend you go 'all the way' and do a proper high fat diet (or ketogenic diet as it's called. In the next post I am going to copy and paste something for you to read. It's called the CKD (cyclic ketogenic diet) and I personally lost close to 1% of bodyfat a week for 6 weeks straight when first doing it. (went from 22%bf to 17% in a blink of an eye).

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The following is taken from Lyle McDonald's article located at: http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/...genic-diet.htm

Diet Requirements Mon. to Fri.

The phrase "working smarter, not harder" applies here more than any diet one has tried. One must fully understand what they must do in order to optimize their goal. To set a CKD up, one cannot just expect to cut all carbs in the diet, train hard, and lose fat! Although some have come up with variations to this plan, the one stated in this article, I have found, has worked for myself (it got me to 6% BF), and other clients I’ve trained to the leanest, hardest they’ve ever been.

First, to set up the diet, write down your lean mass weight. Not your total weight, dough boy. If you weigh 200, but have 20% bodyfat, your lean mass weight would be around 160 pounds. Multiply this by one, getting your grams of protein requirements for a day. Make sure you eat at least one gram of protein/pound of lean mass! This is important in recovery from workouts and enough nitrogen retention to keep muscle. Next, multiply by four, to get your protein calories. Here, it is 640.

The rest of your caloric requirements for the day should be fat. Here is the catch: you must eat fat to burn fat. There’s no way around it. There are many advantages to dietary fat on this diet: Feeling of fullness since fat digestion is slow (less hunger), tastes great, and lowers blood glucose levels (lowering insulin and allow all the fat burning hormones to do their job).

So how much fat? I always recommend starting out with a 500 calorie deficit from your maintenance calories. If you don’t know, it is usually 15 times body weight (full body weight here) depending on an individuals metabolic rate. So here, the example would need 3000 calories a day to maintain weight, and 2500 calories to begin fat loss.

2500 minus 640 (protein calories) is 1860 which works out to be around 206 fat grams a day. Now as you go deeper into the diet, and find the need to restrict calories more, you must cut fat calories, not protein.

The Weekend Carb Load

Since muscle glycogen is the main source of energy for anaerobic exercise such as weight training, we cannot simply deplete all stores while working out and not fill them back up. If that does happen, be rest-assured that the body WILL use protein for fuel then. But this won’t happen on the CKD.

Your one and a half days of "freedom" allow you to do two things: First, reward your carb cravings from the previous days, allowing you to enjoy pleasures like pizza, pasta, breads, etc. Second, eating these things are physiologically rewarding as insulin levels run high, storing amino acids and carbs, as glycogen, into the depleted muscle allowing you to be able to workout again the following week.

Your "carb-up" should begin Friday night and last until around midnight Saturday. Now the next important issue to address is how many carbs. Some lucky individuals find that they eat whatever they want for the 24-30 hour time interval and receive perfect glycogen compensation, while others rely on a better statistical number.

What has been recommended by other authors of the CKD is 10-12 grams of carbs per kilogram of lean mass. Again, time to do math. Our example had 160 pounds of lean mass, so divide that by the conversion factor of 2.2, and we get roughly 73 kg.

100 Grams of easily digested liquid carbs along with around half as many grams of carbs in protein (here 50) as a whey shake or something of that nature should be taken right after the last workout (which I will address in the workout section of the article) when insulin sensitivity will be at its greatest.

A few hours later this individual will start to spread the remaining 630 grams of carbs, along with the important number of 160 grams of protein (remember, keep this constant) during the remainder of the compensation period.

So what about dietary fat? I know you’re reminding yourself, "Didn’t this guy mention pizza?" Yes, I did. And here’s why. During the first 24-30 hours of carbing up, the body will use all dietary carbohydrates to refill glycogen, protein for rebuilding, and get this: fat for energy. Still?

Just like the previous five and a half days. Makes sense. When all the carbohydrates are being used for more important functions (muscle), what else is there to be used? However, you can’t just eat all the fat you want. Keep grams of fat intake below your body weight in kilograms. Again, here our example will keep is fat below 73 during the carb-fest.

By anecdotal reports, this should keep fat regain minimal to nil. Keeping fat intake extremely low has even caused some extra fat burning during the carb up!

But people who have tried this, myself included, have complaints about insulin swings from the quick digestion of carbs: High, low, high, low. Not very fun when you want to enjoy your weekend. Some just fall into a sugar coma and sleep all day. Kind of like after eating all those sweet potatoes, mashed potatoes, and pumpkin pie after Thanksgiving dinner. Its not ONLY the tryptophan in turkey that causes sleep!

As stated before, some dietary fat should be eaten to slow digestion and keep sugar levels stable. Whether it be saturated, unsaturated, or essential fats, is the dieter’s decision. All have nine calories per gram. (Note: there is a claim that essential fatty acids such as flax seed oil increase insulin sensitivity within the muscle cells, in turn, increasing glycogen intake.)

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So here’s how it breaks down during the week: Sunday through Friday afternoon , you will follow the low carb diet outlined above. Eat fat and protein all day everyday except on workout days because after workouts, you will need to consume strictly just protein—no fat or carbs.

Some have found to enjoy a protein shake afterwards because they are easily digested. Do whatever works for you. But fat is not logical since you want the protein to fuel the healing process as quickly as possible and fat will only slow it down.

Friday afternoon, around two hours before your last workout of the week, eat two to three pieces of fruit. This will get your body/liver ready to start the carb loading and give you some energy for that final, dreadful workout (trust me, during the first few weeks, you will not want to do that final workout, but you must). Then from Friday night until Saturday at midnight or until bed, eat those carbs!
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Now, here is the CHANGES I and others have made to this plan. Post Workout shakes should consist of one scoop of whey and roughly 12g of dextrose OR maltodextrin (no other carb source is acceptable for our purposes). Carb ups are condensed into one day, and there is no fruit eaten on this diet ever (unless you really like fruit). When you carb up, you carb up using LOW GI foods such as sweet potato and oatmeal. We do not do a 'depletion' workout.

Anyway, that's the diet I use that I have found to be insanely effective. It helps if you keep a food log the first couple of weeks. Also, you skip the first carb up.

Foods you can eat... that's easy, almost everything.

Eat lots of olive oil, walnut oil, fish oil, flax, avocado, etc. Try to eat good healthy fats, and nice lean meats, and lots of broccoli/salad.

No tomatos, onions, potatos, oats, rice, etc. Just ask if you have questions if this is something you'd like to try to do.
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Hmm skelooth, this does seem very interesting, and something i will try in the next few days, when i was 240+ (like 243) i was cutting with a LBM of 160, but now i think i'm gonna do it with like 145 so my numbers aren't much different from those, so basically i eat a lot of fat and protein correct?
Current weight - 210lbs damn thanksgiving, damn me for not being focused!!
Maintenence - 210x13= 2730cals (15 seems a bit high, in the past i always did it with 10-13 x BW)
Fat loss - 2230 cals
LBM - 145
145g of protein
580 cals from protein
(2650-580)/9=183g of fat

Damn sure i wont get fat off of all that fat? i no you have to eat fat to lose fat and yadda yadda yadda, but damn that seems like a hell of a lot of fat man!

145/6=24g of protein per meal
183/6=31g of fat per meal
Someone on another board told me to keep my carbs no higher than 75g a day....true? (active carbs that is....total carbs-fiber carbs=active carbs)
Fat should be more omega 3 and mono Unsaturated fats such as flaxseed, safflower and olive oil and fish oil.

What else am i missing here??
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Yes it's good

Eating fat will not make you fat, and as you'll see it will do the opposite But yes, you eat that much fat Try to get it from clean sources (ie, oils).
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so today starts my ckd.....
will post meals later....back day 2day.....woohooo!
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Diet:
Meal 1: 2 eggs, .5c CC, 1/4c walnuts
Meal 2: 1c CC, salad w/ 1tbsp olive oil, lite soy sauce, lemon juice, pepper (as dressing)
Meal 3: 4oz Tuna, 1/4c walnuts, 1c green beans
Meal 4: .5c CC, 1/4c walnuts
Meal 5: Chic breast, 1c green beans, 1/4c walnuts
Meal 6: .5c CC, 1/4c walnuts (maybe a little more dunno for sure)

All i can say is that i dont think this diet is for me....i've noticed headaches, dizziness, lack of attention (SEVERLY), lack of memory (also SEVERLY)......lack of mental sense basically....with ap classes i cant afford this shit! i'll give it one more day, but damn this is so brutal it should have never been invented....IMO lol :screaming :banghead: :clunk: :boink: :crazy1: :sleepy: :rock2: :umm:

That how i feel....also i think i might add....from all the damn CC and walnuts i feel like i could puke!....but i will say that tuna w/ hotsauce and walnuts is REALLY good! :zoom:
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lol..why so much cottage cheese? You don't want to sub in lean cut's of meat instead?
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on the topic of cloudy mindness/ lethargy/ etc...

the first time you try to go into ketosis, your body will resist. Right now you're body is resisting. Once you successfully enter ketosis for the first time, all of those nasty side effects go away.
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Carb cycling is healthier than remaining in ketosis for an extended period of time. Staying in a state of ketosis will only sacrifice lean muscle tissue along with your fat burning, which for long term results is detrimental imo.

Ketosis will definitely work, but at what cost.

I used a keto diet for my one and only BB comp and I was shredded because of it, but I feel that I also lost too much muscle along the way.

I was just curious Luxury Chic if you've ever been diagnosed with a hypothyroid condition. Or, are you currently on any thyroid meds?
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Yeh CKD is GREAT once you get past the first 10 days or so. I did 2 bouts of more than 10 months on the diet, and I love it. My only concern is the toxins found in the meats from all the antibiotics and meds that the animals eat... I had high-meat CKDs... Next time I do it, it will be with organic meats to see if there's a big difference.

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wow so i've been MIA for awhile...well i'm back....and with a new motivation!!!
BASKETBALL!!!! I LOVE BASKETBALL AND WANT TO GET BACK TO PLAYING IT SOOOOOO BAD!!! I rolled both my ankles a while back and that's kind of wat put me out i guess....but now i'm back and wanna get into shape for 06-07 season (since i didn't play this year either), but my goal....and this is a REAL goal is to be about 160-170 by the end of october 2006, i'm currently about 215, so yeah

But i got back into the swing of things so here it is....
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Looks like you quit the CKD. Too bad, I'm sure you would've done GREAT on it. Seriously. Are you going to give it another try sometime? You do need to get through the first 2 weeks and that IS kinda hard, but very much worth it IMO.
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