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Old 04-12-2006, 08:05 PM   #1
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Arrow Female Beta Testers Needed - Omega Sports New Thermo

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Omega Sports needs 1-2 female beta testers for our new thermogenic, BURN3D.

Here's the product info:

Per serving:

800mg TTA
800mg Green Tea Supplying 400mg EGCG (no caffeine)
125mg Foskolii standardized to 25mg Forslean

Ingredient Summary:


Green Tea – antioxidant, increase in 24hour energy expenditure, inhibition of COMT leading to greater amounts of norepinephrine, all without any nervous system stimulation. Conclusion? Helps burn fat by shifting substrate utilization away from carbs and towards fat, and does not come with any resultant nervousness or jitters.

Forskolin – decreases blood pressure, increases heart function but mainly increases intracellular cAMP. Increased cAMP results in increased fatty acids liberated from adipocytes (fat cells) for use by the body. Works independently of beta receptors, therefore can exert its effect without any nervous system stimulation. Conclusion? Forskolin liberates fat from fat cells for use by the body

TTA – turns the liver into a fat burning machine. Drains FFA from the blood and burns them up in the mitochondria/peroxisomes of the liver. All without any nervous system stimulation and only for fats; TTA does not increase protein or carb utilization. Conclusion? TTA will help you use up more calories, all coming from fat sources.

There is the summary, here is the science.

Green Tea Extract – GTE is a powerful ingredient in any fat loss or general health supplement stack. GTE has been shown to be a powerful antioxidant but more importantly for our purposes, GTE has been shown to elevate resting metabolic rate (as determined by Energy Expenditure, or EE), and the increase is accompanied by a shift in substrate utilization from carbohydrates to fats with no change in protein degradation. This means that the metabolic increase due to GTE A) spares protein and B) burns more fat. How does GTE do this? It is thought that GTE inhibits an enzyme called catechol O-methyltransferase, or COMT. COMT is responsible for breaking down norepinephrine, a molecule that stimulates fat mobilization and thermogenesis (for reference, ephedrine works by increasing levels of circulating norepinephrine). Unlike ephedrine, the resultant increase in norepinephrine from GTE does not give you the jitters or make you anxious. Also, it has been shown that the primary active “catechins” in GTE, EGCG, has a “threshold” dosage before which it is eliminated quickly prior to reaching the blood. The threshold was shown to be around 375mg of EGCG ingested all at once. Prior to this dosage, only small amounts of EGCG make their way into the blood, but past this 375mg “saturation barrier” the majority of the catechins make it into the bloodstream. Thus, 400mg of EGCG at one dose has far greater effects than two 200mg doses spread apart. With this in mind, each dose of Omega Ripped contains 400mg of EGCG, enough to reach past the saturation point and significantly elevate blood levels of the active catechins.

Coleus Forskolii – The active ingredient in this Ayurvedic herb is forskolin. Forskolin acts similarly to beta agonists like ephedrine, but without the CNS effects associated with them. This is because forskolin is able to exert its effects without beta receptor interaction. Forskolin activates an enzyme named adenylate cyclase, which in turn increases cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP). cAMP is a messenger molecule that signals the body to mobilize fat from fat cells. This is due to cAMP activating cAMP-dependant protein kinase, which activates hormone sensitive lipase (HSL). HSL is responsible for signaling fat cells to release free fatty acids (FFA) into the bloodstream for use as energy. Thus, by increasing cAMP, fat is mobilized from fat cells for use as energy. As an aside, forskolin is also known to reduce blood pressure, increase healthy heart function, increase NO and act as an antihistamine. While releasing FFA into the blood might seem like you can start winning the battle of the bulge, it is only half the equation; FFA, if not utilized as fuel (for instance, during exercise) are returned to fat cells and reincorporated. So the end point is that unless you use these extra FFA, they will just be redeposited. Which leads to the next ingredient in Omega Ripped…

TTA - Tetradecylthioacetic acid. Yes, I know its hard to say, but it is of my opinion that any non-stimulant fat burner needs to incorporate this new and intriguing compound. TTA is a fatty acid with a sulfur atom substituted at the 3rd position in place of a carbon (also known as a 3-thia fatty acid). What this does is prevent the TTA molecule from being oxidized (or burnt up) by the body for fuel. TTA is a potent activator of a set of nuclear sub-receptors dubbed the PPARs. PPARalpha (PPARa) is responsible for fat mobilization and burning, PPARdelta (PPARd) is somewhat greyer area, as it is not too well understood, and PPARgamma (PPARg) is responsible for fat storage. TTA is a very strong activator of PPARa, leading to a host of fat burning changes. By activating PPARa (which stands for peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor), structural changes take place in the mitochondria of the body, causing them to enlarge and proliferate. The same happens with peroxisomes, which are also responsible for oxidation of fats. What does this all mean? The liver becomes a fat burning machine, draining fatty acids from the blood and burning them up in the many new mitochondria and peroxisomes. TTA has shown resultant dramatic decreases in blood FFA concentrations, and has been shown to be cardioprotective by changing cholesterol profiles from negative to beneficial.

Clearly, these ingredients compliment each other. TTA leads to drainage of FFA from the blood, and forskolin increases FFA release, meaning that they should work in synergy and lead to even greater fat loss than the two alone (and when combined with exercise and a caloric deficit, leading to total fat destruction). And with these two chugging away, GTE shifts the body over from carb utilization to fat utilization in its daily metabolism. All of this without any CNS stimulation that you can feel or that will keep you up at night.



These three ingredients will stack marvelously together. The key is really the high dose EGCG and what it can do when you saturate yourself with it, so to speak. Remember this is a beta test so the formula is not set in stone by any means....so we would really like to get some good feedback to gauge the overall effectiveness. Please also note that since this is a beta test, the bottles will not have a fancy label.


Requirements:
  • Must be 18 or older
  • Must not have any medical conditions or using any prescription drugs
  • Must live in the United States
  • Must be on a cutting diet or calorie deficit
  • Must be able to start logs immediately upon receiving the product and update them at least three days per week
  • Must not be testing or using any other supplements that would otherwise skew the results of this trial
  • Cannot be allergic to sulfur based compounds
  • Must detail your diet and cardio program to help assess supplement's effectiveness
  • *Not necessarily required* however we would like testers that are able to compare it to other TTA based products such as Red Acid, Melting Point or Lipid FX

And here is a list of things you must include in your logs:
  • Starting and ending body weight
  • Starting and ending body fat percentages
  • Additional changes in measurements; waist, thighs, etc.

Required Information:
  • Age
  • Sex - Female
  • Height
  • Weight
  • Body type
  • Training Experience (please be detailed)
  • Current Training Schedule / Protocol (please be detailed)
  • Cardio Schedule/Protocol (please be detailed)
  • Current Supplements (please list all product names)
  • Comparable Supplement/Product History (please be detailed)
  • Prescription / Non-Prescription / Recreational drugs
  • Are you currently being treated for any known medical conditions? (please be detailed)
  • Current Diet & Macros (please be detailed)
  • Current Daily Water Intake
  • Links to Past Logs & Reviews if any
  • Are you willing to post "before" & "after" photos?
  • Why should you be selected as a tester? (state your case)

Please do not PM me asking to be a tester, respond via this thread only. Thank you!
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Questions:

I currently only take Centrum multi and a generic fat burner (which I would discontinue) but I wanted to add creatine and essential fatty acids. Would those be a problem? From what I'm reading, they might alter results.

I do have chemical depression, however it does not require medication. Is that a problem? I have found healthy diet and exercise to be far more effective than the medicine ever was
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Questions:

I currently only take Centrum multi and a generic fat burner (which I would discontinue) but I wanted to add creatine and essential fatty acids. Would those be a problem? From what I'm reading, they might alter results.

I do have chemical depression, however it does not require medication. Is that a problem? I have found healthy diet and exercise to be far more effective than the medicine ever was

The creatine would be no problem, but one of the drawbacks of TTA is that it makes some people feel like a load of poo...so I honestly do not think this would be a wise choice for you. Sorry.
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I am interested in this as I just got cAMP and was going to try it after finishing Melting Point (on my last day of 7 week log on BB). A few questions and an application are below. Thanks!

Questions:

Would there be any issue with me just coming off MP for 7 weeks since they are similar? I was previously recommended to stop MP after 8 weeks although some people do use for months.

Could I take this with Sesamin (have not started yet but was planning)? How about stims (i.e., Basic Cuts, AMP, Stim-X)? CEE (Xceed)?

How long is the trial and when would it start?

Would this require a separate log or could I keep it in my transformation log? I currently have sections to detail weight&bf/diet/supps/sides/workout/other and measurements as needed.

Application:

Age: 31
Sex: Female
Height: 5' 4 1/2"
Weight: 165.2
Body type: Meso? or Meso/Endo? Not sure...see my IMPC pics if needed
Training Experience (please be detailed):
Nov 2004 - Nov 2005 (lost 100 lbs) Cardio started 1x wk Jazzercise, worked up to 4-5 days/wk Step, Interval, Kickboxing, Hi/Lo, Elliptical at gym
Nov 2005 - Jan 2006 Cardio 3-5 x week, weight machines, hi rep, low weight 2x wk
Feb 2005 - Current: See current below


Current Training Schedule / Protocol (please be detailed)

M/W/F split, sometimes add 1 day on weekend, follow with a 2 mile run when time permits

Weight/Reps/Sets (included weight at last wrokout and change since start w/ free weights ~ 6 weeks ago to give an idea of where I am at)

8 Reps, 3-4 Sets Each
~ 30 sec - 1 min between Sets
Dumbell weight is combined total of both

Chest-Triceps-Shoulders
Dumbbell Bench Press (incline), 40 x 8 x 3 (up 20 lbs)
Barbell Bench Press, 70 x 8 x 3 (up 50 lbs)
Barbell Triceps Ext "Skull Crusher", 40 x 8 x 3 (up 30 lbs)
Dumbbell Shoulder Press, 40 x 8 x3 (up 20 lbs)
Dumbbell Lateral Raise, 30 x 8 x 3 (up 10 lbs)

Back-Biceps
Barbell Bent-over Row, 90 x 8 x 3 (up 65 lbs)
Dumbbell Bent-over Row, 60 x 8 x 3 (up 10 lbs)
Cable Front Pulldown, 66 x 8 x 3 (up 6 lbs)
Barbell Curl, 50 x 8 x 3 (up 30)
Dumbbell Incline Curl, 50 x 8 x 3 (up 20 lbs)

Legs
Barbell Squat (Smith), 60 x 8 x 1, 70 x 8 x 1, 80 x 8 x 1 (up 60 on max set)
Barbell Straight-back & leg Deadlift, 110 x 8 x 3 (up 50 lbs)
Lever Seated Leg Press, 168 x 8 x 1, 176 x 8 x 1, 180 x 8 x 1 (just added this exercise)
Lever Seated Hip Adduction (Inner Thigh), 100 x 8 x 3
Lever Seated Hib Abduction (Outer Thigh), 100 x 8 x 3
Lever Lying Leg Curl, 90 x 8 x 3

Abs
Weighted Ball Crunch, 25 x 15 x 3 (up 20 lbs)
Lever Seated Crunch, 132 x 15 x 3 (up 62 lbs)


Cardio Schedule/Protocol (please be detailed)

Tu/Th/Sat
60 min Step class Tu/Sat or Run 2 miles + elliptical
60 min Kickboxing Thu or Run 2 miles + elliptical

2 mile run (~ 21-22 min) after weights when time permits

Sunday is a make-up day, bonus day or off day.


Current Supplements (please list all product names)

Stim-X
AMP
Melting Point - ending 4/13/06
Whey Protein
Blended Protien (Whey, Egg, Casein) - occasionally, almost gone
Multivitamin
Flax Oil
Magnesium
Potassium
Basic Cuts - started 4/12/06
Xceed - started 4/12/06
Sesamin - have, but not yet started
cAMP - have but not yet started

Comparable Supplement/Product History (please be detailed)

ECA
Hydroxycut
Dexatrim Natural


Prescription / Non-Prescription / Recreational drugs
Birth Control Pill

Are you currently being treated for any known medical conditions? (please be detailed)
Take Birth Control Pill for PCOS, no problems just cosmetic issues and keeping womanly stuff "regular" (sorry but you asked for details, PM if questions please)

Current Diet & Macros (please be detailed)

1600-1700 cals on workout days
1200-1400 on off days

40% C/40% P/ 20% F

See current logs for daily detailed diet

Current Daily Water Intake
Just started tracking, has varied from
12-32 glasses (8 oz) per day, try to usually get at least 1 gallon/day

Links to Past Logs & Reviews if any

Melting Point / Stimulant X / AMP Log by DawnMarie (on BB.com)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=721378

DawnMarie's 2006 Log: Almost There! - Transformation from 282 to 125 lbs (on IM.com)
http://ironmass.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6423


Are you willing to post "before" & "after" photos?
Yes

Why should you be selected as a tester? (state your case)

I am female, have used Melting Point so can compare, have been successful with similar product in past and I am diligent in trying to keep a good log and update it daily, even though my logs are not sponsored. I am very motivated to reduce my bodyfat and will follow dosing, etc to the letter if selected to try to get the best possible results. I track my daily diet, water intake, exercise, weight/BF, and measurements for myself and my current log so the required data is already available in an easy to view format.
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Yeah...honestly I do not know about the continuous cycle thing but in general, would not want you on anything like TTA for over 8 weeks. Give the system a nice break once in a while.

Edit--You have made some tremendous progress! Very, very impressive and encouraging!!
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Yeah...honestly I do not know about the continuous cycle thing but in general, would not want you on anything like TTA for over 8 weeks. Give the system a nice break once in a while.

Edit--You have made some tremendous progress! Very, very impressive and encouraging!!
I think I should definitely take a break then, please withdraw my application and thank you. Maybe next time. I need to focus on implementing a new workout program anyway, time to switch it up.

Thanks for the nice comments on my progress, they are appreciated!
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