What would be better?

mrsc · 06-06-2005, 02:22 PM

I drink Diet Pop - when I go to places that don't have diet -- is it better to drink a beer or a regular Pop -- YES, I do drink water all the time (and a lot of it) but sometimes I do want pop.

Or on another note:

Again, If diet isn't around and you are out - is it better to drink a beer or a mixed drink with regular coke?

I know in moderation and all that --- i am serious about this question though.

SouthCaliDiva · 06-06-2005, 10:51 PM

I'd go with the beer. Light beer would be even better.

It looks like the soda exceeds the calories and carbs of the beer before the alcohol is even added.

I found the info at the USDA site

SouthCaliDiva · 06-06-2005, 10:54 PM

Here's Michelob Ultra, as an example of light:

Michelob Ultra
Energy kcal 96
Carbohydrate, by difference g 2.58
Alcohol, ethyl g 11.3

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

**DarkFalcon** · 06-07-2005, 02:41 AM

Raise a pint of Guinness to your good health
By KEVIN HUNT
Hartford Courant
Posted: April 3, 2004

Guinness

Guinness, besides providing the required satisfaction, is said to be a veritable trove of goodness.

UW Study

A University of Wisconsin study last fall found that moderate consumption of Guinness worked like aspirin to prevent clots that increase the risk of heart attacks.

A man walks into a bar, orders a 12-ounce bottle of Corona Extra. Another man walks in, orders a 12-ounce Guinness draft.
The two men turn to each other, raise their glasses and say, "Here's to your health."

Question: Whose dietary and health interests are better served by the 12-ounce beer?

If the guidelines are less alcohol, fewer calories, fewer carbohydrates - and, to top it off, protection against heart attacks, blindness and maybe even impotence - then it's the Guinness drinker, hands down.

No joke.

Guinness, in fact, is lower in alcohol, calories and carbohydrates than Samuel Adams, Budweiser, Heineken and almost every other major-brand beer not classified as light or low-carb. It has fewer calories and carbohydrates than low-fat milk and orange juice, too.

Could this be the same Irish stout that looks like a still-life root beer float and tastes about as filling as a Quarter Pounder with cheese?

Yes, the same Guinness that beer expert Michael Jackson (the British king of hops) calls the world's classic dry stout. It's a favorite of Bono (obviously), Madonna (with a good cigar) and Matt Damon (no, Guinness does not make teeth unnaturally white).

Low in alcohol
This tastes-great, more-filling formula defies nutritional expectations because Guinness is so low in alcohol, a source of empty calories. Guinness is 4.2% alcohol by volume, the same as Coors Light. Budweiser and Heineken check in at 5%.

"That surprised me," says Joseph Brennan, a Yale-New Haven Hospital cardiologist of Irish heritage and a confirmed Guinness drinker. "I could never understand why one or two wouldn't leave me light-headed."

Brennan, like many cardiologists, recommends a drink a day for his cardiac patients. Red wine, in particular, has been shown to help prevent heart attacks. Now, maybe it's beer's turn. A University of Wisconsin study last fall found that moderate consumption of Guinness worked like aspirin to prevent clots that increase the risk of heart attacks.

Take, er, drink your vitamins
In the study, Guinness proved twice as effective as Heineken at preventing blood clots. Guinness is loaded with flavonoids, anti-oxidants that give the dark color to many fruits and vegetables.

These anti-oxidants are better than vitamins C and E, the study found, at keeping bad LDL cholesterol from clogging arteries. Blocked arteries also contribute to erectile dysfunction, as does overindulgence in alcohol.

Guinness has a higher concentration than lighter beers of vitamin B, which lowers levels of homocysteine, linked to clogged arteries. And researchers have found that anti-oxidants from the moderate use of stout might reduce the incidence of cataracts by as much as 50%.

In Ireland, where the slogan "Guinness Is Good for You" was born, the stout's medicinal uses are the stuff of legend. Diageo, the U.S. distributor of Guinness, makes no claims about its medical benefits, spokeswoman Beth Davies says from the company's offices in Stamford, Conn.

But a visitor to Ireland might hear accounts (most no longer, if ever, true) of Guinness administered to nursing mothers, blood donors, stomach and intestinal post-operative patients and mothers recovering from childbirth.

"Pregnant women and racehorses, one a day," says Michael Foley of Wethersfield, Conn., standing over a pint of Guinness in the subterranean bar at the Irish American Home Society in Glastonbury, Conn.

Racehorses?

Foley, who left Castlemaine, County Kerry, 43 years ago but retains a Guinness-thick brogue, returns a cocked-head glance that says, loosely translated from Gaelic, "Duh."

"It's made from barley, you know," he says.

It also has 1.6grams of protein per serving.

SouthCaliDiva · 06-07-2005, 03:26 AM

DarkFalcon! You're one of those people!?!?

Maaannn, I just threw 4 leftover Guiness in the dumpster not even two weeks ago. :p

The dude who left them here was from Jamaica. Seems like it's a staple over there along with Red Stripe. Always telling me how he has to have one everyday. <lyrical patois accent>Drink it! It's good for you!</lyrical patois accent>

Blech!

mrsc · 06-07-2005, 03:51 PM

Thanks so much - it is really just confusing sometimes on what to have.... ya know, my husband drinks regular pop and when i run out of diet, and really don't want water -- i never know what to choose - i always though beer would be better than a regular pop but since I don't know much about things like that, I thought I would ask....

BUT IF THE DIET COKE WAS AVAILABLE, THEN THE MIX DRINK WOULD BE BETTER BY FAR INSTEAD OF A BEER, Correct?

The Doc · 06-07-2005, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsc

BUT IF THE DIET COKE WAS AVAILABLE, THEN THE MIX DRINK WOULD BE BETTER BY FAR INSTEAD OF A BEER, Correct?

Calorie wise:
Whiskey (JD) has 120 per 1.5 oz
Vodka (Absolute) has 105 per 1.5 oz
Light beer has 90-100

But hard liquor has 0 carbs and and beer has at least 2.6g per serving. So it all depends on if you're going stricly by calories in and calories out (Weight Watchers type diet), or if you're trying to maintain a Protein/Carb/Fat ratio in your your caloric intake (body building diet). It just depends on the kind of diet your on.

P.S.-The thing about Michelob Ultra is that it's 2.6g of carbs per 12 oz serving, yet there's only 5 servings in a 6 pack because there's only 10 oz in each beer. But the price isn't any cheaper so you're actually paying full price for a 5 pack. You're paying 20% more per 12 oz seving since the price isn't reduced by the 16% the volume is, what a friggin' rip.

mrsc · 06-07-2005, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Doc

Calorie wise:
Whiskey (JD) has 120 per 1.5 oz
Vodka (Absolute) has 105 per 1.5 oz
Light beer has 90-100

But hard liquor has 0 carbs and and beer has at least 2.6g per serving. So it all depends on if you're going stricly by calories in and calories out (Weight Watchers type diet), or if you're trying to maintain a Protein/Carb/Fat ratio in your your caloric intake (body building diet). It just depends on the kind of diet your on.

THANKS DOC --

i think we should just all get drunk and think about this?!?! LOL

mrsc · 06-07-2005, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

Raise a pint of Guinness to your good health
By KEVIN HUNT
Hartford Courant
Posted: April 3, 2004

Guinness

Guinness, besides providing the required satisfaction, is said to be a veritable trove of goodness.

UW Study

A University of Wisconsin study last fall found that moderate consumption of Guinness worked like aspirin to prevent clots that increase the risk of heart attacks.

A man walks into a bar, orders a 12-ounce bottle of Corona Extra. Another man walks in, orders a 12-ounce Guinness draft.
The two men turn to each other, raise their glasses and say, "Here's to your health."

Question: Whose dietary and health interests are better served by the 12-ounce beer?

If the guidelines are less alcohol, fewer calories, fewer carbohydrates - and, to top it off, protection against heart attacks, blindness and maybe even impotence - then it's the Guinness drinker, hands down.

No joke.

Guinness, in fact, is lower in alcohol, calories and carbohydrates than Samuel Adams, Budweiser, Heineken and almost every other major-brand beer not classified as light or low-carb. It has fewer calories and carbohydrates than low-fat milk and orange juice, too.

Could this be the same Irish stout that looks like a still-life root beer float and tastes about as filling as a Quarter Pounder with cheese?

Yes, the same Guinness that beer expert Michael Jackson (the British king of hops) calls the world's classic dry stout. It's a favorite of Bono (obviously), Madonna (with a good cigar) and Matt Damon (no, Guinness does not make teeth unnaturally white).

Low in alcohol
This tastes-great, more-filling formula defies nutritional expectations because Guinness is so low in alcohol, a source of empty calories. Guinness is 4.2% alcohol by volume, the same as Coors Light. Budweiser and Heineken check in at 5%.

"That surprised me," says Joseph Brennan, a Yale-New Haven Hospital cardiologist of Irish heritage and a confirmed Guinness drinker. "I could never understand why one or two wouldn't leave me light-headed."

Brennan, like many cardiologists, recommends a drink a day for his cardiac patients. Red wine, in particular, has been shown to help prevent heart attacks. Now, maybe it's beer's turn. A University of Wisconsin study last fall found that moderate consumption of Guinness worked like aspirin to prevent clots that increase the risk of heart attacks.

Take, er, drink your vitamins
In the study, Guinness proved twice as effective as Heineken at preventing blood clots. Guinness is loaded with flavonoids, anti-oxidants that give the dark color to many fruits and vegetables.

These anti-oxidants are better than vitamins C and E, the study found, at keeping bad LDL cholesterol from clogging arteries. Blocked arteries also contribute to erectile dysfunction, as does overindulgence in alcohol.

Guinness has a higher concentration than lighter beers of vitamin B, which lowers levels of homocysteine, linked to clogged arteries. And researchers have found that anti-oxidants from the moderate use of stout might reduce the incidence of cataracts by as much as 50%.

In Ireland, where the slogan "Guinness Is Good for You" was born, the stout's medicinal uses are the stuff of legend. Diageo, the U.S. distributor of Guinness, makes no claims about its medical benefits, spokeswoman Beth Davies says from the company's offices in Stamford, Conn.

But a visitor to Ireland might hear accounts (most no longer, if ever, true) of Guinness administered to nursing mothers, blood donors, stomach and intestinal post-operative patients and mothers recovering from childbirth.

"Pregnant women and racehorses, one a day," says Michael Foley of Wethersfield, Conn., standing over a pint of Guinness in the subterranean bar at the Irish American Home Society in Glastonbury, Conn.

Racehorses?

Foley, who left Castlemaine, County Kerry, 43 years ago but retains a Guinness-thick brogue, returns a cocked-head glance that says, loosely translated from Gaelic, "Duh."

"It's made from barley, you know," he says.

It also has 1.6grams of protein per serving.

now that a whole lot of information WHERE IS COLIN? - lol

The Doc · 06-07-2005, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsc

THANKS DOC --

i think we should just all get drunk and think about this?!?! LOL

I think we should just all follow the immortal words of Jimmy Buffet, "Why don't we we get drunk and....

mrsc · 06-07-2005, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Doc

I think we should just all follow the immortal words of Jimmy Buffet, "Why don't we we get drunk and....

OH FINE.... We'll have it your way

That is more fun anyway --

**EME** · 06-07-2005, 08:54 PM

Definitely go with the beer... No sugar.

No beer for me until mid August.. but after that I'll be bulking and right there with you at the bar!

( At least once or twice per month, anyway )

- EME

**DarkFalcon** · 06-07-2005, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthCaliDiva

DarkFalcon! You're one of those people!?!?

Maaannn, I just threw 4 leftover Guiness in the dumpster not even two weeks ago. :p

The dude who left them here was from Jamaica. Seems like it's a staple over there along with Red Stripe. Always telling me how he has to have one everyday. <lyrical patois accent>Drink it! It's good for you!</lyrical patois accent>

Blech!

Damn girl G is da BOMB! It just takes a bit of getting used to but once you get it the G really hit's the spot!

**DarkFalcon** · 06-07-2005, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsc

OH FINE.... We'll have it your way

That is more fun anyway --

I'M IN!!

Brinn · 06-07-2005, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EME

Definitely go with the beer... No sugar.

Now it's official

mrsc · 06-08-2005, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EME

Definitely go with the beer... No sugar.

No beer for me until mid August.. but after that I'll be bulking and right there with you at the bar!

( At least once or twice per month, anyway )

- EME

Never thought about the sugar. THEN BEER IT IS!! (that is the answer I wanted)

hibiscus09 · 06-08-2005, 10:14 PM

I like dry white or red wine.

I love Jimmy Buffet!!

mrsc · 06-08-2005, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hibiscus09

I like dry white or red wine.

I love Jimmy Buffet!!

I love white to get tipsy, red to casually drink

06-06-2005, 02:22 PM	#1
mrsc Pink Members Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 171 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	What would be better? I drink Diet Pop - when I go to places that don't have diet -- is it better to drink a beer or a regular Pop -- YES, I do drink water all the time (and a lot of it) but sometimes I do want pop. Or on another note: Again, If diet isn't around and you are out - is it better to drink a beer or a mixed drink with regular coke? I know in moderation and all that --- i am serious about this question though. __________________

06-06-2005, 10:54 PM	#3
SouthCaliDiva IronMass Donator Join Date: May 2005 Location: H-Town bound!!!!!!!! Posts: 546 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 9	Here's Michelob Ultra, as an example of light: Michelob Ultra Energy kcal 96 Carbohydrate, by difference g 2.58 Alcohol, ethyl g 11.3 http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ __________________ It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains. The stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

06-07-2005, 02:41 AM	#4
DarkFalcon I've got a RAGING clue! Join Date: May 2005 Location: dnyc99's cleaning staff Posts: 12,526 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 309	Guinness all the way!! Raise a pint of Guinness to your good health By KEVIN HUNT Hartford Courant Posted: April 3, 2004 Guinness Guinness, besides providing the required satisfaction, is said to be a veritable trove of goodness. UW Study A University of Wisconsin study last fall found that moderate consumption of Guinness worked like aspirin to prevent clots that increase the risk of heart attacks. A man walks into a bar, orders a 12-ounce bottle of Corona Extra. Another man walks in, orders a 12-ounce Guinness draft. The two men turn to each other, raise their glasses and say, "Here's to your health." Question: Whose dietary and health interests are better served by the 12-ounce beer? If the guidelines are less alcohol, fewer calories, fewer carbohydrates - and, to top it off, protection against heart attacks, blindness and maybe even impotence - then it's the Guinness drinker, hands down. No joke. Guinness, in fact, is lower in alcohol, calories and carbohydrates than Samuel Adams, Budweiser, Heineken and almost every other major-brand beer not classified as light or low-carb. It has fewer calories and carbohydrates than low-fat milk and orange juice, too. Could this be the same Irish stout that looks like a still-life root beer float and tastes about as filling as a Quarter Pounder with cheese? Yes, the same Guinness that beer expert Michael Jackson (the British king of hops) calls the world's classic dry stout. It's a favorite of Bono (obviously), Madonna (with a good cigar) and Matt Damon (no, Guinness does not make teeth unnaturally white). Low in alcohol This tastes-great, more-filling formula defies nutritional expectations because Guinness is so low in alcohol, a source of empty calories. Guinness is 4.2% alcohol by volume, the same as Coors Light. Budweiser and Heineken check in at 5%. "That surprised me," says Joseph Brennan, a Yale-New Haven Hospital cardiologist of Irish heritage and a confirmed Guinness drinker. "I could never understand why one or two wouldn't leave me light-headed." Brennan, like many cardiologists, recommends a drink a day for his cardiac patients. Red wine, in particular, has been shown to help prevent heart attacks. Now, maybe it's beer's turn. A University of Wisconsin study last fall found that moderate consumption of Guinness worked like aspirin to prevent clots that increase the risk of heart attacks. Take, er, drink your vitamins In the study, Guinness proved twice as effective as Heineken at preventing blood clots. Guinness is loaded with flavonoids, anti-oxidants that give the dark color to many fruits and vegetables. These anti-oxidants are better than vitamins C and E, the study found, at keeping bad LDL cholesterol from clogging arteries. Blocked arteries also contribute to erectile dysfunction, as does overindulgence in alcohol. Guinness has a higher concentration than lighter beers of vitamin B, which lowers levels of homocysteine, linked to clogged arteries. And researchers have found that anti-oxidants from the moderate use of stout might reduce the incidence of cataracts by as much as 50%. In Ireland, where the slogan "Guinness Is Good for You" was born, the stout's medicinal uses are the stuff of legend. Diageo, the U.S. distributor of Guinness, makes no claims about its medical benefits, spokeswoman Beth Davies says from the company's offices in Stamford, Conn. But a visitor to Ireland might hear accounts (most no longer, if ever, true) of Guinness administered to nursing mothers, blood donors, stomach and intestinal post-operative patients and mothers recovering from childbirth. "Pregnant women and racehorses, one a day," says Michael Foley of Wethersfield, Conn., standing over a pint of Guinness in the subterranean bar at the Irish American Home Society in Glastonbury, Conn. Racehorses? Foley, who left Castlemaine, County Kerry, 43 years ago but retains a Guinness-thick brogue, returns a cocked-head glance that says, loosely translated from Gaelic, "Duh." "It's made from barley, you know," he says. It also has 1.6grams of protein per serving.

06-07-2005, 03:26 AM	#5
SouthCaliDiva IronMass Donator Join Date: May 2005 Location: H-Town bound!!!!!!!! Posts: 546 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 9	OH. MY. GAWD. DarkFalcon! You're one of those people!?!? Maaannn, I just threw 4 leftover Guiness in the dumpster not even two weeks ago. :p The dude who left them here was from Jamaica. Seems like it's a staple over there along with Red Stripe. Always telling me how he has to have one everyday. <lyrical patois accent>Drink it! It's good for you!</lyrical patois accent> Blech! __________________ It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains. The stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

06-07-2005, 03:51 PM	#6
mrsc Pink Members Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 171 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Thanks so much - it is really just confusing sometimes on what to have.... ya know, my husband drinks regular pop and when i run out of diet, and really don't want water -- i never know what to choose - i always though beer would be better than a regular pop but since I don't know much about things like that, I thought I would ask.... BUT IF THE DIET COKE WAS AVAILABLE, THEN THE MIX DRINK WOULD BE BETTER BY FAR INSTEAD OF A BEER, Correct? __________________

06-07-2005, 08:54 PM	#12
EME Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,651 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 55	Definitely go with the beer... No sugar. No beer for me until mid August.. but after that I'll be bulking and right there with you at the bar! ( At least once or twice per month, anyway ) - EME __________________ PhysiqueFXonline - Online Nutrition and Training with Michael and Kendra Elias: www.PhysiqueFXonline.com www.MichaelandKendra.com My wife, and IFBB Fitness Pro Kendra Elias' personal site: www.KendraElias.com Proud member of Team ALR: www.ALRIndustries.com

06-08-2005, 10:14 PM	#17
hibiscus09 IMPC Contestant Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 988 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 16	I like dry white or red wine. I love Jimmy Buffet!!