Something is wrong with me...

**Grunt76** · 05-14-2007, 12:31 AM

I think it is called "Adrenal Fatigue". Luckily, Palo Alto Labs said they are sending a free bottle of their stuff for me to run a log on. It is designed to help people with this problem.

Symptoms:

- Lazy ass motherfooger
- No energy
- Always exhausted
- Sleep 12 hours a night, could go 16 but damn daylight and life

Also... I am now on:

1,000mg Testosterone a week
120mg Anavar a day
100mg Proviron a day

...

I don't feel "on".

The gear is legit though, because I am recomping pretty nicely on Maintenance +200/300 calories a day. No extra drive or aggressiveness. Even my workouts are not any more fun than usual.

It is crappy. Thoughts?

Drew1200 · 05-14-2007, 12:53 AM

sorry to hear grunt

doesnt proviron reduce estrogen levels? low estrogen could be causing the lack of energy...

**Grunt76** · 05-14-2007, 01:37 AM

I was feeling like that off just 1,000mg Test... And before my cycle...

**DJSTARER** · 05-14-2007, 02:32 AM

u might get some more quality responses if it was posted in AAS section

**Grunt76** · 05-14-2007, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJSTARER

u might get some more quality responses if it was posted in AAS section

Why? It has little or nothing to do with AAS bro, I felt like that before the cycle and the not being able to feel on is just another proof that something is not right...

Drew1200 · 05-14-2007, 04:19 PM

could be stress, or just overtraining

not sure bro.....hopefully that palo alto stuff will help out.

best of luck

**Jayhawkk** · 05-20-2007, 08:29 PM

Stress, Anxiety, Depression, Adrenal Fatigue. those symptoms are very broad as far as diagnosing the problem. I know because I had/have them and after thousands of dollars of medical bills(with insurance coverage) they still don't know. We'd have to know a lot more about you than you probably care to give out to actually help narrow it down to only a dozen or so issues

**Crader** · 06-20-2007, 05:51 PM

I have adrenal fatigue from stimulant burnout. I'm also on the Reset AD and it really does help. Its not an instant fix and I dropped out all stims to give myself a chance to recover. But the Reset is good stuff.

Hope you get energy back soon it really sucks.

**Pioneer** · 06-20-2007, 07:28 PM

I've had a lot of those symptoms numerous times and what ive found other than possible medical problems, which I dont believe to be the reason, is lack of motivation. When im working for something, some goal of mine that I set, all that stuff disappears and im back on track. When I dont have something to work for everything lacks. I dont feel like getting up, dont feel like driving to the gym, sometimes takes me 30 minutes of telling myself to go before I actually do something.

Thats how I see the situation, that how Ive dealt with it. Though of course yours could be completely different and this isn't the problem. Just a thought.

DarkFalcon · 06-20-2007, 09:32 PM

How is this coming along Grunt? I used to feel that way a long way back but taking a B50 daily has pretty much eliminated that completely. Not sure if you take it but if you don't do! Takes about 30 days to fully kick in but you will feel much better.

**Grunt76** · 06-21-2007, 05:05 PM

B50? What is that?

There are some indications that I may be a long-time sufferer of sleep apnea, which would mean that I don't actually sleep at night, and wake up hundreds of times without knowing it.

That would explain a LOT. So I am pursuing this avenue.

**bubba g** · 06-21-2007, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grunt76

B50? What is that?

There are some indications that I may be a long-time sufferer of sleep apnea, which would mean that I don't actually sleep at night, and wake up hundreds of times without knowing it.

That would explain a LOT. So I am pursuing this avenue.

Going by some of our previous posts. I am going to guess stress is the cause, or atleast a very large part of it.

DarkFalcon · 06-21-2007, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grunt76

B50? What is that?

There are some indications that I may be a long-time sufferer of sleep apnea, which would mean that I don't actually sleep at night, and wake up hundreds of times without knowing it.

That would explain a LOT. So I am pursuing this avenue.

B50 is a B complex multivitamin..it works great very well...
Jamieson Laboratories - Vitamins & Supplements better then B12 shot's IMHO.

If it's sleep apnea you'll need treatment for it.

**Grunt76** · 06-22-2007, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubba g

Going by some of our previous posts. I am going to guess stress is the cause, or atleast a very large part of it.

I have no stress at all bro. None. I did undergo tremendous amounts of it a few years back but you can't get less stressed than me now.

**Grunt76** · 01-22-2008, 11:11 PM

I finally solved this riddle.

Ready?

Large shakes. 3 or more scoops of protein (containing protease enzyme to ensure digestion) simply smack me down like sleeping pills. In that state, even dragging my ass from one room to another became a difficult task. Meals were of course almost unthinkable, so I relied more on... you guessed it... protein powder. Another 3 scooper down. Ugh.

Now, 1-2 scoops in water and I am fine. 2 scoops in milk is really stretching it, and usually results in me wanting to take a nap.

So there it is, the large-shake syndrome, case number 1.

**Ikaika** · 01-22-2008, 11:50 PM

Rofl Grunt. What did you think of the Palo Alto stuff? Seems sorta gimmicky but who the hell knows these days...

Also, hows things in the frozen tundra you call home? Haven't seen you around much lately sir.

**Grunt76** · 01-23-2008, 02:36 AM

05-14-2007, 12:53 AM	#2
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05-14-2007, 02:32 AM	#4
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05-14-2007, 04:19 PM	#6
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05-20-2007, 08:29 PM	#7
Jayhawkk Nutraplanet Rep Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,106 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 44	Re: Something is wrong with me... Stress, Anxiety, Depression, Adrenal Fatigue. those symptoms are very broad as far as diagnosing the problem. I know because I had/have them and after thousands of dollars of medical bills(with insurance coverage) they still don't know. We'd have to know a lot more about you than you probably care to give out to actually help narrow it down to only a dozen or so issues __________________ Nutraplanet.com for all your supplement needs! ------------------------------ Hangin's too good for 'em! BURNIN'S too good for 'em! They should be ripped into itsy-bitsy little pieces and BURIED ALIVE!

06-20-2007, 05:51 PM	#8
Crader IronMass Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 527 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 40	Re: Something is wrong with me... I have adrenal fatigue from stimulant burnout. I'm also on the Reset AD and it really does help. Its not an instant fix and I dropped out all stims to give myself a chance to recover. But the Reset is good stuff. Hope you get energy back soon it really sucks.

06-20-2007, 07:28 PM	#9
Pioneer Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,726 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 75	Re: Something is wrong with me... I've had a lot of those symptoms numerous times and what ive found other than possible medical problems, which I dont believe to be the reason, is lack of motivation. When im working for something, some goal of mine that I set, all that stuff disappears and im back on track. When I dont have something to work for everything lacks. I dont feel like getting up, dont feel like driving to the gym, sometimes takes me 30 minutes of telling myself to go before I actually do something. Thats how I see the situation, that how Ive dealt with it. Though of course yours could be completely different and this isn't the problem. Just a thought. __________________ "A Marine in battle fears disgracing himself by running. He fears not losing his life, but losing his honor. He may not be able to preserve his life, but he can always preserve his honor. That much is within his power... To fear disgrace but not death, to fear not duty but dereliction from duty -- this is courage." -FMFM 1-0 "Leading Marines" pg. 43 Drive on

06-20-2007, 09:32 PM	#10
DarkFalcon I've got a RAGING clue! Join Date: May 2005 Location: dnyc99's cleaning staff Posts: 11,511 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 299	Re: Something is wrong with me... How is this coming along Grunt? I used to feel that way a long way back but taking a B50 daily has pretty much eliminated that completely. Not sure if you take it but if you don't do! Takes about 30 days to fully kick in but you will feel much better.

01-22-2008, 11:50 PM	#16
Ikaika resident degen Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,900 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 222	Re: Something is wrong with me... Rofl Grunt. What did you think of the Palo Alto stuff? Seems sorta gimmicky but who the hell knows these days... Also, hows things in the frozen tundra you call home? Haven't seen you around much lately sir. __________________ No supplement can make up for the lack of a strong work ethic.

01-23-2008, 02:36 AM	#17
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