Sleeping Problems?

**builtbeast** · 09-21-2005, 10:03 PM

I thought instead of posting an article I'd ask everyone to share their ideas here. :bigthumbu

Sleeping is important to help you recover your emotional, mental and of course physical state. And during this time your body heals from the exercise and stress put on it in the gym. In general we should have 7 or 8 hours of sleep a day. But I know there are members who have trouble getting their optimal amount of sleep in. :slapen:

What are your suggestions for getting a good night's rest?

**Pj-Macx** · 09-21-2005, 10:27 PM

I have alot of trouble getting to sleep.. mine is not just typical insomnia... but it is because I am bi-polar.. and a symptom of that is insomnia.. I have not figured out a good way to get to sleep each night.. sometimes a nice hot shower will work.. sometimes I read, sometimes I just lay in bed until I fall asleep.. I also try relaxation techniques...but they dont always work..

So if anyone else has some other ideas.. I would love to hear them.. I usually only get about 4 hours of sleep each night..

**antihero** · 09-21-2005, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pj-Macx

I have alot of trouble getting to sleep.. mine is not just typical insomnia... but it is because I am bi-polar.. and a symptom of that is insomnia.. I have not figured out a good way to get to sleep each night.. sometimes a nice hot shower will work.. sometimes I read, sometimes I just lay in bed until I fall asleep.. I also try relaxation techniques...but they dont always work..

So if anyone else has some other ideas.. I would love to hear them.. I usually only get about 4 hours of sleep each night..

have you tried supplementing ZMA to get some quality rest?

**Pj-Macx** · 09-22-2005, 12:40 AM

Yep... taking it now actually... and I slept a whole 2.5 hours last night/this morning..
I think it might be time to go back on my medication for bi-polar... that is the only time I am able to sleep...

**antihero** · 09-22-2005, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pj-Macx

Yep... taking it now actually... and I slept a whole 2.5 hours last night/this morning..
I think it might be time to go back on my medication for bi-polar... that is the only time I am able to sleep...

sry to hear that, but you gotta do what you gotta do....best of luck with that

AYung · 09-23-2005, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pj-Macx

Yep... taking it now actually... and I slept a whole 2.5 hours last night/this morning..
I think it might be time to go back on my medication for bi-polar... that is the only time I am able to sleep...

That really sucks to hear. I suffer with only 6 hours of sleep, and your only getting 2.5 hours. When I get 6, I am usually all depressed, tired, weak, and other bad things that I don't want to happen. I can't imagine what 2.5-4 hours would feel like.

Good luck with rest man!

**krzna** · 09-23-2005, 08:50 PM

Melatonin/ 5htp
Give melatonin a shot at a high dosage, its cool for a week but better to cycle after that.

Vegeto · 09-24-2005, 03:00 AM

It's good to stay consistant with your bed time and awake time. Make sure to have bright lights on and around you first thing in the morning. ( :o I think too much some nights, so it doesn't always work for me either.)

Bi-Polar sucks PJ! I have family members with it, and I have suspected it may be a trouble of mine too. No diagnosis for me though because I don't have money for a doctor's opinion.

**Pj-Macx** · 09-24-2005, 07:25 AM

Yes it does Vegeto... PM me if you want or need to talk... I can give you some info on it.. or even a short test given by therapists.. to give you an idea of where you might be.. it is not a diagnosistic test.. just a test.. but it does help you know where you are ...

**builtbeast** · 09-25-2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by krzna

Melatonin/ 5htp
Give melatonin a shot at a high dosage, its cool for a week but better to cycle after that.

I take melatonin myself.

There are 1 mg and 3 mg doses but I've just been using the 1 mg to be conservative.

The drawback is I really don't like the way I feel when I wake up though.

**Pj-Macx** · 09-25-2005, 10:35 AM

what do you consider high dosage??? I have 3mg.. pills.. and have taken 6 at a time.. and it will work for a day or two.. but after that.. nada.. and I agree built.. it makes you feel real sluggish the next day..

KingOfChaos · 09-27-2005, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by builtbeast

I take melatonin myself.

There are 1 mg and 3 mg doses but I've just been using the 1 mg to be conservative.

The drawback is I really don't like the way I feel when I wake up though.

I normally take a fat burner in the morning when I wake up to help slough off that drowsy effect.

Vegeto · 09-27-2005, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pj-Macx

Yes it does Vegeto... PM me if you want or need to talk... I can give you some info on it.. or even a short test given by therapists.. to give you an idea of where you might be.. it is not a diagnosistic test.. just a test.. but it does help you know where you are ...

Thanks PJ!

Speaking of sleep, I had some weird dreams last night, I dreamed my laundry room was full of cobwebs, spiders, and other creapy crawlies. *shivers* It its pretty messy in there, maybe I shoul clean it.

But now I'm scared to go in there.

LoveThyPain · 09-30-2005, 03:59 PM

I have serious sleeping problems too. I am having doubts that I may be suffering from ADD. The symptoms seem to be there and generally there r so many thoughts running through my head that I find it impossible to sleep. When I finally do manage to sleep, it would prolly be somewhere around 3-4 a.m. and I totally feel screwed the following day. I am visiting a doc tomorrow, hopefully I can get this sorted out.

**Pj-Macx** · 10-01-2005, 01:15 AM

I wish you the best LTP... let us know how things go..

chlaxman · 10-05-2005, 01:57 PM

I have insomnia that comes and goes, so at certain times I will not really ever sleep and other times I have no trouble at all. I have 5mg melatonin pills on hand and I've taken up to 15mg at once. I try to only use it as a last resort and some nights it does not help at all.

I find that listening to some relaxing music just before going to bed or even quietly while going to bed can really help.

cutman · 10-19-2005, 06:35 PM

I've recently had trouble getting more than 6.5 hours sleep.. I just wake up in the morning and don't feel like sleeping anymore.. and what's more, I'm bulking, so I really want to aim for 8-9 hours! This is annoying me cos I know I would feel better if I just got a bit more in.
It's only happened recently since I started bulking at 500kcals above maintenance too, is it cos of the raised metabolism or what?
Any thoughts?

GameDayDog · 10-19-2005, 07:23 PM

Ever try Hypnotherapy??

You don't even have to pick the one's that are for insomnia... You can use them for any reason... I've been into them since high school, back when they were on cassette tapes.. (17 years ago!!)

I used them to stop procrastinating... then I procrastinated when it came to listening to it... but I had an auto-reverse cassette player... I'd put my headphones on, press play... listen to the music and fall fast asleep...

I last got some for an ex gyrlfriend that wanted to quit smoking... we downloaded it, then burned it onto a regular audio CD... then there were tracks she could listen to whyle driving in the car or sitting around the house surfing the internet, etc. etc. etc. ... & there were other tracks that relaxed you & you were supposed to use headphones to go to sleep..

For the record.. she quit smoking.. & I never procrastinate anymore... I haven't for a long tyme... if I don't do somethyng, it's because I had to place it lower on the priority list... that's not really procrastination, but time management.. which I also had a cassette for...

I know... When you say hypnosis.. everyone turns their noses up.. but I'm a believer ... & it's the same way people view herbal pills vs prescription drugs.. Massage therapy vs acupuncture vs aroma therapy... I'll always say it.. - If what you're doing isn't doing it... then it's tyme to try somethyng new..

The fyrst two lynks are places that I've actually ordered from... As a dude, it's nyce to have women talking softly to me as I go to sleep...

http://hypnosis.hyptalk.com/pd_even.cfm - I started at the Deep Sleep page, you can return to the homepage if ya want...

http://www.wendi.com/html/insomnia.html - I started at the Deep Sleep page, you can return to the homepage if ya want...

**********
I haven't personally ordered from.. but I would consider them...

http://www.hypnosisdownloads.com/dow...-insomnia.html

... If anyone tries thys... feel free to post and let us know the results...

Peace..~G

09-21-2005, 10:03 PM	#1
builtbeast Großer Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: In a very red state Posts: 1,828 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 98	Sleeping Problems? I thought instead of posting an article I'd ask everyone to share their ideas here. :bigthumbu Sleeping is important to help you recover your emotional, mental and of course physical state. And during this time your body heals from the exercise and stress put on it in the gym. In general we should have 7 or 8 hours of sleep a day. But I know there are members who have trouble getting their optimal amount of sleep in. :slapen: What are your suggestions for getting a good night's rest?

09-21-2005, 10:27 PM	#2
Pj-Macx Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: 632 HP SS Posts: 4,089 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 75	I have alot of trouble getting to sleep.. mine is not just typical insomnia... but it is because I am bi-polar.. and a symptom of that is insomnia.. I have not figured out a good way to get to sleep each night.. sometimes a nice hot shower will work.. sometimes I read, sometimes I just lay in bed until I fall asleep.. I also try relaxation techniques...but they dont always work.. So if anyone else has some other ideas.. I would love to hear them.. I usually only get about 4 hours of sleep each night.. __________________ Co-Owner @ BodyBuildingXtreme 2002 Navy Blue Metallic Camaro SS "The Blue Ghost" # 10354 -=LME LSX 454ci built for N20=-

09-22-2005, 12:40 AM	#4
Pj-Macx Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: 632 HP SS Posts: 4,089 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 75	Yep... taking it now actually... and I slept a whole 2.5 hours last night/this morning.. I think it might be time to go back on my medication for bi-polar... that is the only time I am able to sleep... __________________ Co-Owner @ BodyBuildingXtreme 2002 Navy Blue Metallic Camaro SS "The Blue Ghost" # 10354 -=LME LSX 454ci built for N20=-

09-23-2005, 08:50 PM	#7
krzna Dogg Crappin Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Olangapo-Zambales,Philipines Posts: 1,773 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 49	Melatonin/ 5htp Give melatonin a shot at a high dosage, its cool for a week but better to cycle after that. __________________ www.surpassgenetics.com www.nolva-dex.com Team Beast Breeder colossus@beastbreeder.com Admin - F uckgentics/OffshoreBodybuilding/TheVIP

09-24-2005, 03:00 AM	#8
Vegeto blameless sinner Join Date: May 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 804 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 15	It's good to stay consistant with your bed time and awake time. Make sure to have bright lights on and around you first thing in the morning. ( :o I think too much some nights, so it doesn't always work for me either.) Bi-Polar sucks PJ! I have family members with it, and I have suspected it may be a trouble of mine too. No diagnosis for me though because I don't have money for a doctor's opinion. __________________ ______________ ________________ ......Busy Training...... __________________ ________________ __________________

09-24-2005, 07:25 AM	#9
Pj-Macx Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: 632 HP SS Posts: 4,089 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 75	Yes it does Vegeto... PM me if you want or need to talk... I can give you some info on it.. or even a short test given by therapists.. to give you an idea of where you might be.. it is not a diagnosistic test.. just a test.. but it does help you know where you are ... __________________ Co-Owner @ BodyBuildingXtreme 2002 Navy Blue Metallic Camaro SS "The Blue Ghost" # 10354 -=LME LSX 454ci built for N20=-

09-25-2005, 10:35 AM	#11
Pj-Macx Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: 632 HP SS Posts: 4,089 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 75	what do you consider high dosage??? I have 3mg.. pills.. and have taken 6 at a time.. and it will work for a day or two.. but after that.. nada.. and I agree built.. it makes you feel real sluggish the next day.. __________________ Co-Owner @ BodyBuildingXtreme 2002 Navy Blue Metallic Camaro SS "The Blue Ghost" # 10354 -=LME LSX 454ci built for N20=-

09-30-2005, 03:59 PM	#14
LoveThyPain IronMass Fornicator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Purgatory Posts: 359 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 10	I have serious sleeping problems too. I am having doubts that I may be suffering from ADD. The symptoms seem to be there and generally there r so many thoughts running through my head that I find it impossible to sleep. When I finally do manage to sleep, it would prolly be somewhere around 3-4 a.m. and I totally feel screwed the following day. I am visiting a doc tomorrow, hopefully I can get this sorted out. __________________ Life's a bitch, be a dog and hump it.

10-01-2005, 01:15 AM	#15
Pj-Macx Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: 632 HP SS Posts: 4,089 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 75	I wish you the best LTP... let us know how things go.. __________________ Co-Owner @ BodyBuildingXtreme 2002 Navy Blue Metallic Camaro SS "The Blue Ghost" # 10354 -=LME LSX 454ci built for N20=-

10-05-2005, 01:57 PM	#16
chlaxman Pro Stature Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine baby Posts: 585 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 9	I have insomnia that comes and goes, so at certain times I will not really ever sleep and other times I have no trouble at all. I have 5mg melatonin pills on hand and I've taken up to 15mg at once. I try to only use it as a last resort and some nights it does not help at all. I find that listening to some relaxing music just before going to bed or even quietly while going to bed can really help. __________________ Tempora mutantur, et nos mutamur in illis. :weight_li :dumbells: :bed2:

10-19-2005, 06:35 PM	#17
cutman New Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	I've recently had trouble getting more than 6.5 hours sleep.. I just wake up in the morning and don't feel like sleeping anymore.. and what's more, I'm bulking, so I really want to aim for 8-9 hours! This is annoying me cos I know I would feel better if I just got a bit more in. It's only happened recently since I started bulking at 500kcals above maintenance too, is it cos of the raised metabolism or what? Any thoughts?

10-19-2005, 07:23 PM	#18
GameDayDog The Dawg Is Back!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Doin Compound Movements 4 Scooby Snacks! Posts: 1,975 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 32	Myld Hypnosis... Ever try Hypnotherapy?? You don't even have to pick the one's that are for insomnia... You can use them for any reason... I've been into them since high school, back when they were on cassette tapes.. (17 years ago!!) I used them to stop procrastinating... then I procrastinated when it came to listening to it... but I had an auto-reverse cassette player... I'd put my headphones on, press play... listen to the music and fall fast asleep... I last got some for an ex gyrlfriend that wanted to quit smoking... we downloaded it, then burned it onto a regular audio CD... then there were tracks she could listen to whyle driving in the car or sitting around the house surfing the internet, etc. etc. etc. ... & there were other tracks that relaxed you & you were supposed to use headphones to go to sleep.. For the record.. she quit smoking.. & I never procrastinate anymore... I haven't for a long tyme... if I don't do somethyng, it's because I had to place it lower on the priority list... that's not really procrastination, but time management.. which I also had a cassette for... I know... When you say hypnosis.. everyone turns their noses up.. but I'm a believer ... & it's the same way people view herbal pills vs prescription drugs.. Massage therapy vs acupuncture vs aroma therapy... I'll always say it.. - If what you're doing isn't doing it... then it's tyme to try somethyng new.. The fyrst two lynks are places that I've actually ordered from... As a dude, it's nyce to have women talking softly to me as I go to sleep... http://hypnosis.hyptalk.com/pd_even.cfm - I started at the Deep Sleep page, you can return to the homepage if ya want... http://www.wendi.com/html/insomnia.html - I started at the Deep Sleep page, you can return to the homepage if ya want... ********** I haven't personally ordered from.. but I would consider them... http://www.hypnosisdownloads.com/dow...-insomnia.html ... If anyone tries thys... feel free to post and let us know the results... Peace..~G __________________ I am Thee Alpha.. RaSP is Thee oMEGA.. Between the 2 of us - We have everythyng covered... I want to be bigger than all the humans!! "I'm sure I should be doing cardio too....but I don't run from anything...so why practice?" - 1stInDoor Goal - 200#'s 5/27/07 - 4/27/07 - 175# 3/27/07 - 167#