Why Steroids Should Be Legal - Page 2

**Sholiz** · 01-29-2006, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lift

I knew someone who someone who got addicted to skunk, smoked a Q a day and ended up in hospital with all sorts of problems. It really is the measure that makes the poison

The Super Skunk? Rank ass smelling just like Diesel! But it's impossible to get addicted to weed, it won't create dependancies.

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

Yeah, but thats for medical reasons. I mean like you could just go the doctor and be like "OMG I WANNA GET LIKE SWOLE LOL!" and he'd be like "OK LET ME SET UP WITH SOME GEAR AND CYCLES AND SHIET LOL LOL LIKE LOL GET A GOOD DIET WATCH THE TESTICLES"

Sorry about that, I'm just really bored.... page 15 out of 40+ on my paper down... due in 1 week...

Who the hell gives a 40 page paper in highschool. Damn AP English.

Thing is too, half the Doctor's out there don't know the first thing about all this stuff. Look at half the advice they give for weight gain and other things, it's totally swayed to "healthy lifestyle" bullshit. So gear use would probally be goofy, and Doc's might tell people (same as in the documentary put on by that 30 Days show on FX) to inject into their abs like that guy was doing with GH and Test. Especially, on FX, when he came off he just quit cold turkey because of "roid rage" and other mental probalems that be most likely brought upon himself by "thinking" he had them. Mind over matter.

More people would probally hurt themselves by going through a doctor like that, and the Doc not properly instructing them on use and the user pinning up intravenious or something!

**MurphMan** · 01-29-2006, 10:23 PM

Do you guys know WHY ecstasy works, lol? What gives you that "high?"

It causes your seratonin stores to be released ALL at once, it's the seratonin flood that gives you the high feeling. After about five times of taking E, your brain becomes incapable of maintaining normal seratonin levels and you become clinically depressed..........that's the last thing we need, lol.

**skelooth** · 01-29-2006, 10:28 PM

weed is still mentally addictive. Even though you won't require a physical addiction that would cause physical withdrawal symptoms, your brain still gets addicted to the high feeling. Why? Because it feels good. Anything that feels good is at least partially addictive.

The difference is addiction to marijuana is purely mental and is easy to break... as opposed to an addiction caffiene where if you don't drink it you get lethargic with headaches :coffe:

Hybrid · 01-29-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sholiz

Thing is too, half the Doctor's out there don't know the first thing about all this stuff. Look at half the advice they give for weight gain and other things, it's totally swayed to "healthy lifestyle" bullshit. So gear use would probally be goofy, and Doc's might tell people (same as in the documentary put on by that 30 Days show on FX) to inject into their abs like that guy was doing with GH and Test. Especially, on FX, when he came off he just quit cold turkey because of "roid rage" and other mental probalems that be most likely brought upon himself by "thinking" he had them. Mind over matter.

More people would probally hurt themselves by going through a doctor like that, and the Doc not properly instructing them on use and the user pinning up intravenious or something!

True. Perhaps if they got properly educated sometime. Of course, my doc seemed cool with everything I was doing for lifting. I guess it all depends upon who you see too.

**Sholiz** · 01-29-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by skelooth

weed is still mentally addictive. Even though you won't require a physical addiction that would cause physical withdrawal symptoms, your brain still gets addicted to the high feeling. Why? Because it feels good. Anything that feels good is at least partially addictive.

The difference is addiction to marijuana is purely mental and is easy to break... as opposed to an addiction caffiene where if you don't drink it you get lethargic with headaches :coffe:

Well if weed is mentally addictive -- so is chocolate, internet forums, coca-cola, mcdonalds, wendys, masturbation ...

**skelooth** · 01-29-2006, 10:35 PM

they are.

Chocolate iirc can actually cos physical addiction as well.

~~2Ripped4U~~ · 01-29-2006, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skelooth

weed is still mentally addictive. Even though you won't require a physical addiction that would cause physical withdrawal symptoms, your brain still gets addicted to the high feeling. Why? Because it feels good. Anything that feels good is at least partially addictive.

The difference is addiction to marijuana is purely mental and is easy to break... as opposed to an addiction caffiene where if you don't drink it you get lethargic with headaches :coffe:

Yup...

Lift · 01-30-2006, 12:46 AM

It's true, not smoking weed is easy whereas not smoking cigarettes... hard

**Sholiz** · 01-30-2006, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lift

It's true, not smoking weed is easy whereas not smoking cigarettes... hard

Honestly, I'm going to disagree. I've quit for short periods of time out of neccesity and felt no need to go back to a cigarette. A week later or so when I was "off the hook" or back from vacation, whatever it be, I smoked again. Not because I needed the nicotine, but because I could.

Lift · 01-30-2006, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sholiz

Honestly, I'm going to disagree. I've quit for short periods of time out of neccesity and felt no need to go back to a cigarette. A week later or so when I was "off the hook" or back from vacation, whatever it be, I smoked again. Not because I needed the nicotine, but because I missed the gentle warm smoke strolling it's way to say hello to Mr. and Mrs Lung.

^^Staying stopped is hard!

But then again everyone is different bro, a friend of mine can smoke a pack and not care if he doesnt smoke again for 6 months

where as when i smoked a pack i couldn't stop for 3/4 years.

**bubba g** · 01-30-2006, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sholiz

Honestly, I'm going to disagree. I've quit for short periods of time out of neccesity and felt no need to go back to a cigarette. A week later or so when I was "off the hook" or back from vacation, whatever it be, I smoked again. Not because I needed the nicotine, but because I missed the gentle warm smoke strolling it's way to say hello to Mr. and Mrs Lung.

Give it time... I never get addicted to anything, but ciggarettes definatly got ahold of me.. It took a long time till I was hooked but once I was It was really hard to quit...

How long have you been smoking for? How many ciggarettes a day?

**Sholiz** · 01-30-2006, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bubba g

Give it time... I never get addicted to anything, but ciggarettes definatly got ahold of me.. It took a long time till I was hooked but once I was It was really hard to quit...

How long have you been smoking for? How many ciggarettes a day?

Half a year with 2-3 packs a day for a long time, smoking about a pack a day now.

I think it's setting yourself metally to quit, and not letting anything stop you. Kinda like starting training, or at least getting serious again, doing whatever it takes to bring yourself to where you were before and making yourself the best you can. Mind over matter, if you think you can without thinking twice, you will be able to.

Lift · 01-30-2006, 01:09 AM

a pack = 20?

**Sholiz** · 01-30-2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lift

a pack = 20?

Yeah.

**MurphMan** · 01-30-2006, 01:25 AM

I can definately attest to the masturbation addiction!

**The Chosen One** · 01-30-2006, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sholiz

LOL, I wrote my research paper for College Prep Bio on the effects of stimulants, thermogenics and ephedra on metabolism. I failed, teahcer said I couldn't have wrote that paper because I used big words like catabolic, anabolic, metabolic pathways, protein synthesis and ... myofibral hypertrophy!!!

So ****ing stupid, that seriously infuriates me. And it amazes me that you didn't fail, because your paper wasn't pro-illegal steroids.

**jiza101** · 01-30-2006, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MurphMan

I can definately attest to the masturbation addiction!

Roger that ghost rider :lick: :boink1:

W8isGR8 · 01-30-2006, 06:46 PM

Addiction=shitty will power in most cases.

There are exeptions of course, like heroin, but putting down the coffe cup or the cigarettes isn't going to kill you. It's the same with junk-food, sex, and alcohol. Quit being a weak pussy and just *****ing quit! I quit smoking, I stopped eating crappy food, it's not that hard.

As for the steroids thing, I find it ironic that a 14 year-old girl can get a perscription for birth control(female hormones), but an adult male can't get a perscription for male hormones. I believe steroids should be legal under the following circumstances
1. you're 21 or older(if you can poison your body with alcohol.......)
2. you must have the steroids administered by a physician(this regulates dosages, so some idiot isn't shooting up 4,000 miligrams of test a week)
3. proper PCT as well a bloodwork is followed up(under physicians care)

01-29-2006, 10:28 PM	#33
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,198 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 156	weed is still mentally addictive. Even though you won't require a physical addiction that would cause physical withdrawal symptoms, your brain still gets addicted to the high feeling. Why? Because it feels good. Anything that feels good is at least partially addictive. The difference is addiction to marijuana is purely mental and is easy to break... as opposed to an addiction caffiene where if you don't drink it you get lethargic with headaches :coffe: __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

01-29-2006, 10:35 PM	#36
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,198 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 156	they are. Chocolate iirc can actually cos physical addiction as well. __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

01-30-2006, 12:46 AM	#38
Lift I Love IronMass.Com Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 825 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	It's true, not smoking weed is easy whereas not smoking cigarettes... hard __________________ MrLiftALot@hotmail.com "King Kong Ain't Got Sh*t On Me..."

01-30-2006, 01:09 AM	#43
Lift I Love IronMass.Com Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 825 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 11	a pack = 20? __________________ MrLiftALot@hotmail.com "King Kong Ain't Got Sh*t On Me..."

01-30-2006, 06:46 PM	#48
W8isGR8 Pro Stature Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pearl City,Hawaii Posts: 119 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	Addiction=shitty will power in most cases. There are exeptions of course, like heroin, but putting down the coffe cup or the cigarettes isn't going to kill you. It's the same with junk-food, sex, and alcohol. Quit being a weak pussy and just *****ing quit! I quit smoking, I stopped eating crappy food, it's not that hard. As for the steroids thing, I find it ironic that a 14 year-old girl can get a perscription for birth control(female hormones), but an adult male can't get a perscription for male hormones. I believe steroids should be legal under the following circumstances 1. you're 21 or older(if you can poison your body with alcohol.......) 2. you must have the steroids administered by a physician(this regulates dosages, so some idiot isn't shooting up 4,000 miligrams of test a week) 3. proper PCT as well a bloodwork is followed up(under physicians care) __________________ I seek only the truth

01-29-2006, 10:23 PM	#32
MurphMan Robomoderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,598 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 26	Do you guys know WHY ecstasy works, lol? What gives you that "high?" It causes your seratonin stores to be released ALL at once, it's the seratonin flood that gives you the high feeling. After about five times of taking E, your brain becomes incapable of maintaining normal seratonin levels and you become clinically depressed..........that's the last thing we need, lol.

01-30-2006, 01:25 AM	#45
MurphMan Robomoderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,598 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 26	I can definately attest to the masturbation addiction!

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