Long Term Effects of a BB Lifestyle?

AaronM · 08-30-2005, 02:30 AM

Hi,
I was just curious about the long term effects of a bodybuilding :bb: lifestyle (when using proper form).

-Joints
-Bones
-Liver

ect.....

I don't want to be 60 and have my joint be worn out and not be able to move.
:weird:

GameDayDog · 08-30-2005, 03:37 AM

Truth is... You're gonna be in worse shape if you don't exercyse regularly... than you would be in you worked out...

Not working out or exercysing leads to arthritis, extra weight gain, lack of nutrition alters your immune system and gets your blood pressure out of wack...

It's very important to exercyse... that's why more senior citizens are enjoying life... They're encouraged to get out & walk... even if that's the only thyng they're able to do, it's better than nothyng..

So, the earlier you start, the better... When I get old, I'm gonna be strong enough to take everyone's pudding. *D

Peace..~G

**skelooth** · 08-31-2005, 03:06 PM

Long term effects of a NATURAL bodybuilding lifestyle:

Longer life,
Better quality of life
Better immune system
Stronger Joints
Stronger Bones
Healthier Body weight
Healthier Eating habits
Tons of hot women chasing you in the streets.

AaronM · 09-01-2005, 02:40 AM

Woohoo...I'll go for that! Especially the last one

chlaxman · 09-02-2005, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

Woohoo...I'll go for that! Especially the last one

That's the one I'm interested in. That and quality of living of course.

joed · 09-02-2005, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GameDayDog

Truth is... You're gonna be in worse shape if you don't exercyse regularly... than you would be in you worked out... Peace..~G

I agree, and when you're 60 it feels terrific when the 40 & 50 yr old soccer/football moms look twice at you. hehe

canadabboy · 09-06-2005, 05:01 PM

If you lift really heavy weights your joints will be ****ed when you're older. But in the long run i'd say the health benefits from a healthy diet and weight training is worth it.

I'm only 21 and i've been training for 2-3 years and my joints are already in worse shape from doing heavy lifts. I do them properly but just the sheer load on your tiny joints which aren't made for that kind of load is punishing.

dnyc99 · 09-06-2005, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skelooth

Long term effects of a NATURAL bodybuilding lifestyle:

Longer life,
Better quality of life
Better immune system
Stronger Joints
Stronger Bones
Healthier Body weight
Healthier Eating habits
Tons of hot women chasing you in the streets.

I was so happy reading the benefits of natural bodybuilding until I read the last line!! ARGH!! No way in hell do I want THAT!!! I'm gonna have to quit lifting.

LoL

AaronM · 09-06-2005, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnyc99

I was so happy reading the benefits of natural bodybuilding until I read the last line!! ARGH!! No way in hell do I want THAT!!! I'm gonna have to quit lifting.

LoL

HAHA!!! Nice!

dnyc99 · 09-06-2005, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

HAHA!!! Nice!

NOT!!

**Sholiz** · 09-06-2005, 11:35 PM

How about no money from buying Supps?

**Peaked_18** · 09-06-2005, 11:42 PM

Arthritis.

**skelooth** · 09-06-2005, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadabboy

If you lift really heavy weights your joints will be ****ed when you're older. But in the long run i'd say the health benefits from a healthy diet and weight training is worth it.

I'm only 21 and i've been training for 2-3 years and my joints are already in worse shape from doing heavy lifts. I do them properly but just the sheer load on your tiny joints which aren't made for that kind of load is punishing.

take joint support supplements

Your joints should not be worn down like that so quickly. If anything, weight lifting builds STRONGER joints.

canadabboy · 09-07-2005, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skelooth

take joint support supplements

Your joints should not be worn down like that so quickly. If anything, weight lifting builds STRONGER joints.

Tell that to people who have been lifting heavy weights for 10+ years.

GameDayDog · 09-07-2005, 08:23 AM

Arthritis - Causes, Prevention, And Treatments
How to deal with arthritis

Arthritis affects roughly 40% of Americans and around half of all people worldwide. Arthritis is more common than cancer and heart problems and dates back thousands years. Worldwide, more pain is caused by arthritis than any other cause. Arthritis alone is responsible for the sale of billions of dollars worth of pain relief medications in this country.

It is widely believed that the famous Roman baths were created not only to promote good hygiene, but to help ancient people ease the aches and pains caused by arthritis.

What is arthritis and why is it so prevalent?

Arthritis exists in two common forms: Rheumatoid arthritis and Osteoarthritis. Rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disorder where the body attacks its own cells, often resulting in joint deterioration. Osteoarthritis is simply caused by wear and tear, leading to arthritis that comes with age (although improper diet or lifestyle can contribute as well).

The joint lining, or cartilage, acts as a shock absorber. It consists of water and protein fibers called collagen. The collagen matrix (that gives cartilage its shape and strength), is insulated by a net of proteglucans. These are filled with water to protect and nourish the cartilage tissue.

Proteglucans are long molecular chains that include chondroitin sulfate and glucosamine, which are two important building blocks.

Glucosamine is absolutely essential to the production of water-binding proteins in cartilage, and chondroitin sulfates draw fluids that aid with ease of movement and attract the nutrients necessary for cartilage repair.

Injury, wear, or corrosive enzymes can weaken this protection, and the cartilage loses the ability to repair itself. It slowly deteriorates and forms crevices and clefs that impede movement and cause arthritis pain.

The traditional approach to treating arthritis joint pain is well known: arthritis pain is suppressed with NASDs (aspirin, ibuprofen, etc). Relieving the symptoms, these drugs simply mask the pain caused by arthritis while the joints continue to deteriorate.

But luckily, there are other ways to deal with arthritis. Recent research shows that supplementing your body's natural supply of the two important cartilage building elements (Glucosamine and Chondroitin) can aid in joint restoration and relief of arthritis pain.

Another helpful nutrient is methyl-sulfonyl-methane (MSM), a
form of sulfur contained in a lot of common foods, including fish, fruits, vegetables, meat, eggs, and milk. MSM helps to relieve arthritis pain and inflammation in joints and muscles. It also boosts the blood supply, reduces muscle spasms, and softens scar tissue.

Capsium, the ingredient in cayenne pepper extract (the hot spice) has also been found to be helpful in relieving arthritis pain.

Due to its small molecular weight, emu oil easily penetrates the skin membranes and delivers its soothing relief to sore arthritic joints. Its anti-inflammatory properties make it very popular among health professionals and sportsmen.

Your habits and lifestyle can also help you avoid the discomfort of arthritis pain. People who keep their body in shape and live an active lifestyle enjoy a much smaller risk of developing osteoarthritis. Osteoarthritis affects the weight-bearing joints first. If your joints have to handle extra weight, the cartilage wears out faster than it can repair itself.

Despite the common belief that osteoarthritis sufferers shouldn't exercise, research indicates the opposite. Moderate exercise helps to keep your joints healthy. Even if they already have arthritis, working them stimulates the restoration process.

Here is a simple exercise that you can do to keep your knee joints in good shape: Bend your knees like you're going to do at sit-up. Keep your knees close together and move them in circular motions, first in one direction and then the other.

You might not feel like moving around when your arthritis is acting up, but a combination of moderate exercise, a proper diet, supplements, and topical ointments can prevent your arthritis from keeping you from enjoying your favorite activities.

http://www.rlrouse.com/arthritis.html

*****

Another myth busted.. Now shaddup & lift somethyng heavy!!! *D

Peace..~G

4amWorkouts · 09-07-2005, 02:45 PM

Nice post GDD...

The bodybuilding 'lifestyle' like anything else can be abused to the extreme. Under normal conditions, you are icreasing your cardio vascular, muscular, skeletal and CNS health. On the extreme side, you are blowing out knees, hips and other joints, and possibly killing your hormonal balance (including test, thyroid, pituatary, etc.) It is all about moderation.

**NYCmitch25** · 09-11-2005, 02:12 AM

yeah, benching 500 for reps is good for shoulder stability... although bone core density is increase in response to heavy weight training.

**EME** · 09-11-2005, 02:25 AM

I've been training for over 20 years, doing powerlifting training for at least 10 of them, and I have no joint problems. I really only have one injury that ever flares up at all.

I actually tore two ligaments in my knee playing football in college and I was able to rehabilitate it without surgery with weight training.

In my opinion, preventing training injuries, joint problems, etc... has a lot to do with warming up properly and using good form when training.

Certainly, some people may be more prone to injuries or joint problems, but I believe that a bodybuilding lifestyle, and a life of weight training by no means has to result in injuries or joint problems.

- EME

Aftershock · 09-11-2005, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by EME

I've been training for over 20 years, doing powerlifting training for at least 10 of them, and I have no joint problems. I really only have one injury that ever flares up at all.

I actually tore two ligaments in my knee playing football in college and I was able to rehabilitate it without surgery with weight training.

In my opinion, preventing training injuries, joint problems, etc... has a lot to do with warming up properly and using good form when training.

Certainly, some people may be more prone to injuries or joint problems, but I believe that a bodybuilding lifestyle, and a life of weight training by no means has to result in injuries or joint problems.

- EME

Exactly. Lifting is stressful of the joints... you just have to be careful and precautious, and you will actually end up with healthier joints. I hate to bring up the dreaded bb.com *shudders* but if anyone posts in the exercise section... you'll no AJ and how he is paranoid about his RC and almost everything is dangerous etc. Everyone likes busting his balls... in a couple of years I guarentee he'll be living with healthy joints whereas the rest of that section...

08-30-2005, 02:30 AM	#1
AaronM Pro Stature Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SW Florida Posts: 253 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Long Term Effects of a BB Lifestyle? Hi, I was just curious about the long term effects of a bodybuilding :bb: lifestyle (when using proper form). -Joints -Bones -Liver ect..... I don't want to be 60 and have my joint be worn out and not be able to move. :weird:

08-30-2005, 03:37 AM	#2
GameDayDog The Dawg Is Back!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Doin Compound Movements 4 Scooby Snacks! Posts: 1,914 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 32	Relax man... Truth is... You're gonna be in worse shape if you don't exercyse regularly... than you would be in you worked out... Not working out or exercysing leads to arthritis, extra weight gain, lack of nutrition alters your immune system and gets your blood pressure out of wack... It's very important to exercyse... that's why more senior citizens are enjoying life... They're encouraged to get out & walk... even if that's the only thyng they're able to do, it's better than nothyng.. So, the earlier you start, the better... When I get old, I'm gonna be strong enough to take everyone's pudding. *D Peace..~G __________________ I am Thee Alpha.. RaSP is Thee oMEGA.. Between the 2 of us - We have everythyng covered... I want to be bigger than all the humans!! "I'm sure I should be doing cardio too....but I don't run from anything...so why practice?" - 1stInDoor Goal - 200#'s 5/27/07 - 4/27/07 - 175# 3/27/07 - 167#

08-31-2005, 03:06 PM	#3
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,200 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	Long term effects of a NATURAL bodybuilding lifestyle: Longer life, Better quality of life Better immune system Stronger Joints Stronger Bones Healthier Body weight Healthier Eating habits Tons of hot women chasing you in the streets. __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

09-06-2005, 11:35 PM	#11
Sholiz Soldier In Progress Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,431 Recipes: 3 Rep Power: 230	How about no money from buying Supps? __________________ You hear me before you see me, I got King Kong in the trunk

09-07-2005, 08:23 AM	#15
GameDayDog The Dawg Is Back!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Doin Compound Movements 4 Scooby Snacks! Posts: 1,914 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 32	More Misconceptions... Arthritis - Causes, Prevention, And Treatments How to deal with arthritis Arthritis affects roughly 40% of Americans and around half of all people worldwide. Arthritis is more common than cancer and heart problems and dates back thousands years. Worldwide, more pain is caused by arthritis than any other cause. Arthritis alone is responsible for the sale of billions of dollars worth of pain relief medications in this country. It is widely believed that the famous Roman baths were created not only to promote good hygiene, but to help ancient people ease the aches and pains caused by arthritis. What is arthritis and why is it so prevalent? Arthritis exists in two common forms: Rheumatoid arthritis and Osteoarthritis. Rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disorder where the body attacks its own cells, often resulting in joint deterioration. Osteoarthritis is simply caused by wear and tear, leading to arthritis that comes with age (although improper diet or lifestyle can contribute as well). The joint lining, or cartilage, acts as a shock absorber. It consists of water and protein fibers called collagen. The collagen matrix (that gives cartilage its shape and strength), is insulated by a net of proteglucans. These are filled with water to protect and nourish the cartilage tissue. Proteglucans are long molecular chains that include chondroitin sulfate and glucosamine, which are two important building blocks. Glucosamine is absolutely essential to the production of water-binding proteins in cartilage, and chondroitin sulfates draw fluids that aid with ease of movement and attract the nutrients necessary for cartilage repair. Injury, wear, or corrosive enzymes can weaken this protection, and the cartilage loses the ability to repair itself. It slowly deteriorates and forms crevices and clefs that impede movement and cause arthritis pain. The traditional approach to treating arthritis joint pain is well known: arthritis pain is suppressed with NASDs (aspirin, ibuprofen, etc). Relieving the symptoms, these drugs simply mask the pain caused by arthritis while the joints continue to deteriorate. But luckily, there are other ways to deal with arthritis. Recent research shows that supplementing your body's natural supply of the two important cartilage building elements (Glucosamine and Chondroitin) can aid in joint restoration and relief of arthritis pain. Another helpful nutrient is methyl-sulfonyl-methane (MSM), a form of sulfur contained in a lot of common foods, including fish, fruits, vegetables, meat, eggs, and milk. MSM helps to relieve arthritis pain and inflammation in joints and muscles. It also boosts the blood supply, reduces muscle spasms, and softens scar tissue. Capsium, the ingredient in cayenne pepper extract (the hot spice) has also been found to be helpful in relieving arthritis pain. Due to its small molecular weight, emu oil easily penetrates the skin membranes and delivers its soothing relief to sore arthritic joints. Its anti-inflammatory properties make it very popular among health professionals and sportsmen. Your habits and lifestyle can also help you avoid the discomfort of arthritis pain. People who keep their body in shape and live an active lifestyle enjoy a much smaller risk of developing osteoarthritis. Osteoarthritis affects the weight-bearing joints first. If your joints have to handle extra weight, the cartilage wears out faster than it can repair itself. Despite the common belief that osteoarthritis sufferers shouldn't exercise, research indicates the opposite. Moderate exercise helps to keep your joints healthy. Even if they already have arthritis, working them stimulates the restoration process. Here is a simple exercise that you can do to keep your knee joints in good shape: Bend your knees like you're going to do at sit-up. Keep your knees close together and move them in circular motions, first in one direction and then the other. You might not feel like moving around when your arthritis is acting up, but a combination of moderate exercise, a proper diet, supplements, and topical ointments can prevent your arthritis from keeping you from enjoying your favorite activities. http://www.rlrouse.com/arthritis.html ***** Another myth busted.. Now shaddup & lift somethyng heavy!!! *D Peace..~G __________________ I am Thee Alpha.. RaSP is Thee oMEGA.. Between the 2 of us - We have everythyng covered... I want to be bigger than all the humans!! "I'm sure I should be doing cardio too....but I don't run from anything...so why practice?" - 1stInDoor Goal - 200#'s 5/27/07 - 4/27/07 - 175# 3/27/07 - 167#

09-01-2005, 02:40 AM	#4
AaronM Pro Stature Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SW Florida Posts: 253 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	Woohoo...I'll go for that! Especially the last one

09-06-2005, 05:01 PM	#7
canadabboy Amateur Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Victoria, B.C Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	If you lift really heavy weights your joints will be ****ed when you're older. But in the long run i'd say the health benefits from a healthy diet and weight training is worth it. I'm only 21 and i've been training for 2-3 years and my joints are already in worse shape from doing heavy lifts. I do them properly but just the sheer load on your tiny joints which aren't made for that kind of load is punishing.

09-06-2005, 11:42 PM	#12
Peaked_18 a la commode Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,247 Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96	Arthritis.

09-07-2005, 02:45 PM	#16
4amWorkouts Pro Stature Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wylie, Texas Posts: 110 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 5	Nice post GDD... The bodybuilding 'lifestyle' like anything else can be abused to the extreme. Under normal conditions, you are icreasing your cardio vascular, muscular, skeletal and CNS health. On the extreme side, you are blowing out knees, hips and other joints, and possibly killing your hormonal balance (including test, thyroid, pituatary, etc.) It is all about moderation.

09-11-2005, 02:12 AM	#17
NYCmitch25 Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,098 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 50	yeah, benching 500 for reps is good for shoulder stability... although bone core density is increase in response to heavy weight training.

09-11-2005, 02:25 AM	#18
EME Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,264 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 51	I've been training for over 20 years, doing powerlifting training for at least 10 of them, and I have no joint problems. I really only have one injury that ever flares up at all. I actually tore two ligaments in my knee playing football in college and I was able to rehabilitate it without surgery with weight training. In my opinion, preventing training injuries, joint problems, etc... has a lot to do with warming up properly and using good form when training. Certainly, some people may be more prone to injuries or joint problems, but I believe that a bodybuilding lifestyle, and a life of weight training by no means has to result in injuries or joint problems. - EME __________________ PhysiqueFXonline - Online Nutrition and Training with Michael and Kendra Elias: www.PhysiqueFXonline.com www.MichaelandKendra.com My wife, and IFBB Fitness Pro Kendra Elias' personal site: www.KendraElias.com Proud member of Team ALR: www.ALRIndustries.com