Vanchatron

I'm just wondering, how do we know whether we have good genetics or not? Now this is a long shot but I (or anybody else here) could have IFBB Pro genetics and don't even know it.

So basically, what factors show that a person has great genetics for bodybuilding?


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bubba g

If you gain lean mass easily, and are able to shed fat easily then you have good genetics for bodybuilding... a few other factors help as well... having a narrow waste, broad shoulders are great to have as well.

As far as someone having the ability to turn pro, and not knowing it... I have heard a few pros were nothing special till they started taking steroids, then they exploded... Flex Wheeler supposedly was one of them, and Kevin Levrone is another...

Two different people can run the same cycle of steroids, eat the same foods, do the same routines everything, and one could gain 12 lbs lean mass, while the other could add as much as 50 lbs lean mass..(rare) but it happens...

Vanchatron

Thanks, that's put things into perspective a bit more.


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madman911

Genetically gifted individuals will have those gifts revealed to them if they have the dedication and motivation to train their ass off. Someone with great genes may lack the discipline to remain consistent with their training and will therefore never tap into their potential. On the other hand, someone less genetically gifted can train with complete dedication and achieve an incredible, even pro level, physique.

Hard work & discipline > genetics

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skelooth

What about all the kids with blow outs at my school gym that somehow have abs from doing bicept curls?

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Vanchatron

I take it as a competitor you "train your ass off" as you said above. In your opinion do you have good genetics for bodybuilding?


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Vanchatron

+ tricept kickbacks with pinky finger curled at just the right position


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madman911

Good, yes. Great... certainly not. I'd go out on a limb and say that most people have at least 'good' genetics for bodybuilding, meaning they have some beneficial physical attributes and their deficiencies can be overcome through proper training.

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Ikaika

whats a bicept?

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Vanchatron

Something you get from doing t3h curlz + taking celltech I think.


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EzyRyder

Woulden't things like lat insertion come into play here? I was reading over at Intense Muscle one time. Dante said something along the lines of this: "If the peak of your bicep doesn't line up exactly with the 'peak' of you tricep, chances are you'll never reach 22" arms" So aren't things like this relevant? Bone length, etc.?

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skelooth

a bicept curl is when you stand in the squat rack, and use the full momentum of swinging your body to 'curl' half of your bodyweight.

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skelooth

I'd say things like that are the most important factors. Muscle insertion, bone length, natural symmetry.... these are things that can not be altered via lifting weights, and are all things that the IFBB pros are blessed with... gear or not.

If you were IFBB pro material you would know within a year or two of lifting, because you'd be a genetic freak. Even without gear those guys are genetic freaks.

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madman911

Of course. Not everyone has the anatomy to attain a classical bodybuilder's physique... even at the pro level, you'll find that every bodybuilder has at least a couple of bodyparts that aren't the ideal size or shape. The sport is all about emphasizing your strong points and downplaying your bad points. That's why posing is such a crucial skill. Did Arnold have great 8-pack abs... nope, he was also wide-waisted so he used a lot of twisting poses to make his waist look narrow. When Arnold would twist a little and then flex those guns... his strong points were emphasized and his weak points minimized, resulting in an incredibly impressive presentation.

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Trick D

Adding someone into the mix as great genetics is darrem charles... totally natural into his IFBB career... he has said many times that he does roids now, but not until he was already into the business for years. Of course he also says he doesn't do that much, anyway, I love Darrem and wanted to throw that out.

If you can make solid gains in strength and size, i consider you to be genetically gifted... to be IFBB pro genetically gifted is totally different concept.

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genetics are a funny thing. I think everyone has strong points. I can train my legs like a freak, and they grow slowly, whereas i can simple bench, and my back explodes with growth.

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Current Stats:
474 Squat
601 Deadlift
320 Bench


Goals for next training cycle:

500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition