Generating New Excitement with BB contests.

**DarkFalcon** · 09-25-2005, 07:39 AM

What do you guys think it will take to bring the big fan base, crowds, and money to the sport? My idea is to make contest's true contest's in every sense of the word. I think the shows should be broken up into three rounds with each round having an equal weighting and the total points added from each round would determine the winner. The first round would be the traditional pose down with points awarded to the best overall look. The second round would be the strength round where the bodybuilders would compete in the some big compound movements like squats, bench press, etc.. for points. The final round would be combat! OK not real combat but wrestling! Fights would be arranged by the placings going into the final round. For example 20 would fight 1, 19 number 2, etc.. until there was a final champ. I think this would add a lot of entertainment value and cause physiques to come back to a more traditional functional size since mobility would be important for the wrestling. Call me crazy but this would be more of a sport then a bunch of dudes in bikini's just prancing and posing. Let's see some functional strength!

What do you think?

**NNTB** · 09-25-2005, 02:06 PM

Sounds good to me... Although I'd like to see some real combat, Ruhl vs. Coleman... that would draw a crowd

**Peaked_18** · 09-25-2005, 02:19 PM

Bodybuilding is already a sport.

It takes a lot of athletics to workout religiously along with keeping a consistant diet. Contests sare basically games annd the playoffs, while training and diet is practices.

**bigDman** · 09-25-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

What do you guys think it will take to bring the big fan base, crowds, and money to the sport? My idea is to make contest's true contest's in every sense of the word. I think the shows should be broken up into three rounds with each round having an equal weighting and the total points added from each round would determine the winner. The first round would be the traditional pose down with points awarded to the best overall look. The second round would be the strength round where the bodybuilders would compete in the some big compound movements like squats, bench press, etc.. for points. The final round would be combat! OK not real combat but wrestling! Fights would be arranged by the placings going into the final round. For example 20 would fight 1, 19 number 2, etc.. until there was a final champ. I think this would add a lot of entertainment value and cause physiques to come back to a more traditional functional size since mobility would be important for the wrestling. Call me crazy but this would be more of a sport then a bunch of dudes in bikini's just prancing and posing. Let's see some functional strength!

What do you think?

that would be awsome

Rip · 09-25-2005, 03:16 PM

It'll never go mainstream just for the fact that they use illegal drugs and they are not really looked down upon or even consider drug tests or having them not use them. I mean there isa huge industry for it and tons of money but if it became like a more popular spectator sport or what not then it will be more regulated and you know someone is going to bring the drug problem up. As long as 16 year old Billy Bob from exas shoots up some sort of roid and gets emotional and shoots himself steroids will always be looked at in the publics eyes like Cocaine or Heroin.

**DarkFalcon** · 09-25-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaked_18

Bodybuilding is already a sport.

It takes a lot of athletics to workout religiously along with keeping a consistant diet. Contests sare basically games annd the playoffs, while training and diet is practices.

It's a sport in the way a beauty pagent is. That's why it's not as popular as it should be. Huge muscles are supposed to be functional ie..serve a purpose beyond their appearance. Once you start showcasing the functional aspect of these guys muscles you add a true level of competition. People would be excited to see how these guys huge muscles translate into real world strength and fighting ability.

**DarkFalcon** · 09-25-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by noneedtobrag

Sounds good to me... Although I'd like to see some real combat, Ruhl vs. Coleman... that would draw a crowd

Oh for sure but I think you would eliminate a lot more potential contestants if they had to participate in fights that could cause disfigurement or brain damage..lol. With wrestling the worst that could happen is a muscle pull or tear, and that's why it would be the final round.

Master Of Puppets · 09-25-2005, 07:40 PM

It would suck if bbing went mainstream. Then I wouldn't feel unique in any way, shape, or form because everyone would be doing it.

MOP

**DarkFalcon** · 09-25-2005, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Of Puppets

It would suck if bbing went mainstream. Then I wouldn't feel unique in any way, shape, or form because everyone would be doing it.

MOP

It wouldn't be mainstream, I mean only the genitically gifted and well informed could ever get anywhere with it but it wouldn't hurt if it was more exciting. I think more people would take it up if it were popular but only those that came to Ironmass and read up would make any progress.

Vegeto · 09-25-2005, 07:56 PM

Yeah, I agree. It is a beuty pageant, well, more like an ugly pageant at this point. I love the Idea of lifting included, but the idea of wrestling makes it into something other than bodybuilding because of the specific skill that wrestling encompases. I might set it up like this-

And BTW, I have thought about this before too DF, (I'm glad you brought it up)

Round 1, posedown for appearance 50%total score
Round 2, General health inspection by doctor (Like in a dogshow

) 25%total score
Round 3, strength and endurance 25%total score

I kept the posedown as the main event to keep the sport what it is. The lifts in round three test the functionality of round 1. And the health inspection determins if they built the best body, or if they sacrificed their body for their muslces. The best part about judging 25% on overal health is that steroids are still not tested specifically to determine if you are allowed to compete, but you wont score high in the health round if you abuse your body too much. (you can cheat a steroid test, but you can't fake good health, so as long as you can keep good health with or without steroids, you will score well.)

**DarkFalcon** · 09-25-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegeto

Round 2, General health inspection by doctor (Like in a dogshow

) 25%total score

lol.."OK let me lift up your sack, now cough!" *the crowd goes wild* :line: Not sure how that would play out to a TV audience but it's certainly a different idea. :bigthumbu
The reason I want some form of combat was because I was thinking of taking back to more of a Roman times contest. Where your biggest and strongest competed in events that related to real world functional strength. I also think it would bring the guys back to a more of an Arnold area phsique since they would need more flexablity and endurance to be competitive.

**NNTB** · 09-25-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

lol.."OK let me lift up your sack, now cough!" *the crowd goes wild* :line: Not sure how that would play out to a TV audience but it's certainly a different idea. :bigthumbu

LMAO :rofl:

Vegeto · 09-25-2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

lol.."OK let me lift up your sack, now cough!" *the crowd goes wild* :line: Not sure how that would play out to a TV audience but it's certainly a different idea. :bigthumbu
The reason I want some form of combat was because I was thinking of taking back to more of a Roman times contest. Where your biggest and strongest competed in events that related to real world functional strength. I also think it would bring the guys back to a more of an Arnold area phsique since they would need more flexablity and endurance to be competitive.

:rofl: ROFL + mmmmm sigh,

The health round might make a good part of the precontest judging instead. But I stand by my claim that health is one good measure of building the best body (amongst a couple of other good measurs). How can you have the best body if your body is unhealthy???
I still don't know if wrestling would be the best idea, because I don't think choke holds, locks and reverses have anything to do with building a good body. Maybe if it were sumo wrestling, then it would be more about the athletic capability of the body rather than skills of the mind that have nothing to do with bodybuilding. My 2cents.

09-25-2005, 07:39 AM	#1
DarkFalcon I've got a RAGING clue! Join Date: May 2005 Location: dnyc99's cleaning staff Posts: 11,511 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 299	Generating New Excitement with BB contests. What do you guys think it will take to bring the big fan base, crowds, and money to the sport? My idea is to make contest's true contest's in every sense of the word. I think the shows should be broken up into three rounds with each round having an equal weighting and the total points added from each round would determine the winner. The first round would be the traditional pose down with points awarded to the best overall look. The second round would be the strength round where the bodybuilders would compete in the some big compound movements like squats, bench press, etc.. for points. The final round would be combat! OK not real combat but wrestling! Fights would be arranged by the placings going into the final round. For example 20 would fight 1, 19 number 2, etc.. until there was a final champ. I think this would add a lot of entertainment value and cause physiques to come back to a more traditional functional size since mobility would be important for the wrestling. Call me crazy but this would be more of a sport then a bunch of dudes in bikini's just prancing and posing. Let's see some functional strength! What do you think?

09-25-2005, 02:06 PM	#2
NNTB rEVOLutionary Join Date: May 2005 Location: FL Posts: 2,446 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 161	Sounds good to me... Although I'd like to see some real combat, Ruhl vs. Coleman... that would draw a crowd __________________ "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln

09-25-2005, 03:16 PM	#5
Rip Amateur Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 76 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 4	It'll never go mainstream just for the fact that they use illegal drugs and they are not really looked down upon or even consider drug tests or having them not use them. I mean there isa huge industry for it and tons of money but if it became like a more popular spectator sport or what not then it will be more regulated and you know someone is going to bring the drug problem up. As long as 16 year old Billy Bob from exas shoots up some sort of roid and gets emotional and shoots himself steroids will always be looked at in the publics eyes like Cocaine or Heroin. __________________ :weight_li :dumbells: Carpe Diem

09-25-2005, 07:40 PM	#8
Master Of Puppets Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,014 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 47	It would suck if bbing went mainstream. Then I wouldn't feel unique in any way, shape, or form because everyone would be doing it. MOP __________________

09-25-2005, 07:56 PM	#10
Vegeto blameless sinner Join Date: May 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 803 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 15	Yeah, I agree. It is a beuty pageant, well, more like an ugly pageant at this point. I love the Idea of lifting included, but the idea of wrestling makes it into something other than bodybuilding because of the specific skill that wrestling encompases. I might set it up like this- And BTW, I have thought about this before too DF, (I'm glad you brought it up) Round 1, posedown for appearance 50%total score Round 2, General health inspection by doctor (Like in a dogshow ) 25%total score Round 3, strength and endurance 25%total score I kept the posedown as the main event to keep the sport what it is. The lifts in round three test the functionality of round 1. And the health inspection determins if they built the best body, or if they sacrificed their body for their muslces. The best part about judging 25% on overal health is that steroids are still not tested specifically to determine if you are allowed to compete, but you wont score high in the health round if you abuse your body too much. (you can cheat a steroid test, but you can't fake good health, so as long as you can keep good health with or without steroids, you will score well.) __________________ ______________ ________________ ......Busy Training...... __________________ ________________ __________________

09-25-2005, 02:19 PM	#3
Peaked_18 a la commode Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,247 Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96	Bodybuilding is already a sport. It takes a lot of athletics to workout religiously along with keeping a consistant diet. Contests sare basically games annd the playoffs, while training and diet is practices.

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