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Hybrid · 12-14-2005, 12:48 PM

That sucks! You were getting so big

Best of luck to a speedy recovery.

Trick D · 12-14-2005, 01:48 PM

What ever you do man, don't get down. Keep your head up and see what happens. Nothing is over... just wait until the Ortho tells you what is going on. Hang in there and keep your head up....

**dbflgirl** · 12-14-2005, 02:00 PM

Ouch!

I hope it's not as bad as you think.

**Sixpack** · 12-14-2005, 02:12 PM

Mike,
Damn damn I feel bad for ya you busted your ass so much and for this to happen is awfull, but you need to stay positive and you will be back man trust me. When I tore my achillies tendon it was unreal also u could hear it snap from 20 yards away. Rehab is so important on how hard you push yourself. Keep me updated on everything man. Sorry once again my prayers are with ya
Justin

**EME** · 12-14-2005, 04:44 PM

Thanks again for the support and encouragement everyone.

Well, it's definitely sore and tight today. I'm trying to avoid taking the prescription pain medication as much as possible, so I've been sticking to Ibuprofen so far today.

It doesn't hurt too bad as long as my arm doesn't move around. If I try to raise up my arm or stretch it out it hurts a lot..... so I'm not doing that.

Man, what a fiasco with my Health Insurance.

I have an HMO, so I have a primary care physician which I picked from a list when I signed up for my insurance.

I've had this physician as my primary care physician for 8 years, but I have never been to see him, because I really never get sick or injured.

At the emergency room last night, the ER doc could tell I would need a sports medicine Ortho, so he arranged an appointment for me for Thursday. I just needed to call this morning to get the exact time.

When I called they got me in for Thursday morning, but said I had to have a referral from my primary care physician in order for insurance to cover the specialist.

So, I call my Primary Care doc to get the referral, and it turns out I have to go in to see him today to get a referral, because I have never actually been to his office before.

So, I'm getting ready to go show one doc my injury ( and pay a co-pay ) just so I can go to doc that I really need to go to.... argh!

Oh, well. As long as it gets taken care of and paid for. ( Thankfully I do have good health insurance.. even if there is this red tape )

On a different note...... my arm pit is starting to bruise up now. I have a feeling it will be pretty black and green in a day or two.

I'm going to have Kendra snap a few pics at lunch today. I'm not sure how well the swelling will show in the pics, but I'll try to show you what it looks like.

Thanks again for all the well wishes. I'm trying to be as upbeat and positive as possible, even though I am extremely dissapointed about all of this.

- EME

Bulk · 12-14-2005, 05:12 PM

Ouch!!!! I'm really sorry to hear about that EME. I wish you a speedy recovery. It really sucks to hear that this happened to you!

Trick D · 12-14-2005, 05:18 PM

If you have any problems or questions about your health insurance shoot me a PM or email... I will do what I can for you, that is if they keep giving you problems.

**EME** · 12-14-2005, 05:39 PM

Thanks guys.

I actually do have good insurance, it's just a matter of taking care of all the red tape to get things done.

Here is a quick picture.

Notice the bruising beginning in the armpit area, and notice the swelling directly above that area. That bruising has just started to come out in the last few hours.

It actually hurts worse than it looks, but hopefully you can see what's going on.

- EME

SouthCaliDiva · 12-14-2005, 06:07 PM

Wow, EME. I'm just playing catch-up here. Sorry to hear of your misfortune.

Is this what happesn when I'm away for a few days?

Seriously, get better soon.

*Old Navy* · 12-14-2005, 07:36 PM

Hey, Michael, as you know, I am new to this Forum, but early on, I sensed you were one of the important Players here. I really was looking forward to meeting you in Toronto at the WNSO Worlds. I'm very, very sorry to hear about your injury. It's one of the things I worry about training at my age for competitions. I have never lifted 100 pound dumb bells, but did do 90s once, which was enough for me. Anyway, I hope the WNSO is understanding and waves the requirement that you have to compete in 2006 to keep your Pro Card. I will pray for your speedy recovery and return to the Ironman Game. My best wishes are with you and Kendra. God Bless.

Regards, Old Navy

**EME** · 12-14-2005, 08:07 PM

Thank you Old Navy. I really do appreciate it.

I was also looking forward to meeting you.

We'll see what the Ortho doc says tomorrow, but if I need any kind of major surgery, I can't believe that there is much chance of me competing next year.

I just returned from my primary care physician.

I took off my shirt, and he took one look and said...... Yep, you need an Ortho specialist and approved my insurance referral. The bruising is already getting worse than it was in the pic I posted earlier.

This part is kind of funny...

As he was checking me out.. ( keep in mind I have never seen him before )

He says.. OK, you're a bodybuilder, and you were pressing with some heavy weights and then felt a tearing sensation.... How much weight were you using? I tell him......

Then, almost the next thing out of his mouth was....

Have you had your lipids tested lately?

I could tell that he probably thought I used steroids, which was most certainly why he jumped right to asking about the lipids. He was cool about it though.

Even though I don't use steroids, I actually appreciated him asking.

I told him that I hadn't had them done in a while and agreed to come back in and get them done after all this was taken care of.

So, at least that went well and my Ortho specialist was approved for insurance purposes.

I'll give you guys an update after talking to the Ortho doc tomorrow.

I guess I'll just really have to bust it on legs for a while until I can get my upper body working properly again. Hopefully I'll at least be able to get on the treadmill soon, so I can stay tight.

Thank you again for all the well wishes. They are truly appreciated.

- EME

*Old Navy* · 12-14-2005, 08:38 PM

Hey, Michael, I hope you don't mind, but I posted the news of your injury on Discussbodybuilding.com (DB.com) and you have already received some comments of sympathy. We are all rooting for your full recovery.

Warm Regards, Old Navy

**EME** · 12-14-2005, 09:01 PM

Thank you Old Navy.

I don't believe I've ever visited that forum, but there are probably some familiar names and faces over there.

I really do appreciate the support.

- EME

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Navy

Hey, Michael, I hope you don't mind, but I posted the news of your injury on Discussbodybuilding.com (DB.com) and you have already received some comments of sympathy. We are all rooting for your full recovery.

Warm Regards, Old Navy

Dex · 12-14-2005, 09:28 PM

I'm sorry to hear about your injury EME...hang in there.
You will be back with a vengeance and soon, no doubt.

I'd like to thank you...while I'm at it,for being such a HUGE
inspiration for so many of us out there.

:beer1:

AYung · 12-14-2005, 10:11 PM

I'm sorry I missed out on the news yesterday. I'm glad that your alright and I wish you a very speedy recovery. It looks pretty painful, but your tough! Good luck man!

Trick D · 12-14-2005, 10:39 PM

I'm glad the ortho referral was so easy, and anytime you can get the whole steroid talk it is a complement!

**Peaked_18** · 12-14-2005, 10:50 PM

Wow, a pec tear is tough to come back from. It is quite possible, hopefully his chest physique isn't messed up, that would be most unforturnate for Michael and his career. This is one of those common injuries that are horrible... Michael, I hope you get better. It'll be a slow recovery, keep your diet up and hopefully get back into training later on. I bet your tore it with those 150's

I am very sorry though.

**EME** · 12-14-2005, 10:53 PM

Yeah me too Trick, and that's the way I took it as well.

I try to look at the bright side of things... I was pretty happy when they did my height and weight measurement.... 5 8 1/2 .... 201 lbs.

I just took a look in the mirror and the bruising is getting much worse. The inside of my arm is even getting black and blue now.

I'm anxious to get the specialist tomorrow and find out what I'm looking at as far as recovery. I'm almost positive it's going to require surgery.... the entire portion of the pec that goes up into your underarm is no longer there on my left side.. there is just a hole there.

- EME

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trick D

I'm glad the ortho referral was so easy, and anytime you can get the whole steroid talk it is a complement!

12-14-2005, 02:12 PM	#34
Sixpack Optimum Sponsored athlete Join Date: May 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 867 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 15	Mike, Damn damn I feel bad for ya you busted your ass so much and for this to happen is awfull, but you need to stay positive and you will be back man trust me. When I tore my achillies tendon it was unreal also u could hear it snap from 20 yards away. Rehab is so important on how hard you push yourself. Keep me updated on everything man. Sorry once again my prayers are with ya Justin __________________ ["Tough Times Don't Last But Tough People Do" My Pops RIP http://www.optimumnutrition.com/ "Fueling your desire for success" www.rippedacadamy.com Mod-massmonsterz.com ISSA certified

12-14-2005, 04:44 PM	#35
EME Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,265 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 51	Thanks again for the support and encouragement everyone. Well, it's definitely sore and tight today. I'm trying to avoid taking the prescription pain medication as much as possible, so I've been sticking to Ibuprofen so far today. It doesn't hurt too bad as long as my arm doesn't move around. If I try to raise up my arm or stretch it out it hurts a lot..... so I'm not doing that. Man, what a fiasco with my Health Insurance. I have an HMO, so I have a primary care physician which I picked from a list when I signed up for my insurance. I've had this physician as my primary care physician for 8 years, but I have never been to see him, because I really never get sick or injured. At the emergency room last night, the ER doc could tell I would need a sports medicine Ortho, so he arranged an appointment for me for Thursday. I just needed to call this morning to get the exact time. When I called they got me in for Thursday morning, but said I had to have a referral from my primary care physician in order for insurance to cover the specialist. So, I call my Primary Care doc to get the referral, and it turns out I have to go in to see him today to get a referral, because I have never actually been to his office before. So, I'm getting ready to go show one doc my injury ( and pay a co-pay ) just so I can go to doc that I really need to go to.... argh! Oh, well. As long as it gets taken care of and paid for. ( Thankfully I do have good health insurance.. even if there is this red tape ) On a different note...... my arm pit is starting to bruise up now. I have a feeling it will be pretty black and green in a day or two. I'm going to have Kendra snap a few pics at lunch today. I'm not sure how well the swelling will show in the pics, but I'll try to show you what it looks like. Thanks again for all the well wishes. I'm trying to be as upbeat and positive as possible, even though I am extremely dissapointed about all of this. - EME __________________ PhysiqueFXonline - Online Nutrition and Training with Michael and Kendra Elias: www.MichaelandKendra.com Team Molecular Nutrition Creative Director FAME Media Group / World Natural Sports Organization Editor-In-Chief FAME Magazine www.FAMEWorldTour.com

12-14-2005, 05:39 PM	#38
EME Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,265 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 51	Thanks guys. I actually do have good insurance, it's just a matter of taking care of all the red tape to get things done. Here is a quick picture. Notice the bruising beginning in the armpit area, and notice the swelling directly above that area. That bruising has just started to come out in the last few hours. It actually hurts worse than it looks, but hopefully you can see what's going on. - EME __________________ PhysiqueFXonline - Online Nutrition and Training with Michael and Kendra Elias: www.MichaelandKendra.com Team Molecular Nutrition Creative Director FAME Media Group / World Natural Sports Organization Editor-In-Chief FAME Magazine www.FAMEWorldTour.com

12-14-2005, 06:07 PM	#39
SouthCaliDiva IronMass Donator Join Date: May 2005 Location: H-Town bound!!!!!!!! Posts: 515 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 9	Wow, EME. I'm just playing catch-up here. Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Is this what happesn when I'm away for a few days? Seriously, get better soon. __________________ It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains. The stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

12-14-2005, 08:07 PM	#41
EME Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,265 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 51	Thank you Old Navy. I really do appreciate it. I was also looking forward to meeting you. We'll see what the Ortho doc says tomorrow, but if I need any kind of major surgery, I can't believe that there is much chance of me competing next year. I just returned from my primary care physician. I took off my shirt, and he took one look and said...... Yep, you need an Ortho specialist and approved my insurance referral. The bruising is already getting worse than it was in the pic I posted earlier. This part is kind of funny... As he was checking me out.. ( keep in mind I have never seen him before ) He says.. OK, you're a bodybuilder, and you were pressing with some heavy weights and then felt a tearing sensation.... How much weight were you using? I tell him...... Then, almost the next thing out of his mouth was.... Have you had your lipids tested lately? I could tell that he probably thought I used steroids, which was most certainly why he jumped right to asking about the lipids. He was cool about it though. Even though I don't use steroids, I actually appreciated him asking. I told him that I hadn't had them done in a while and agreed to come back in and get them done after all this was taken care of. So, at least that went well and my Ortho specialist was approved for insurance purposes. I'll give you guys an update after talking to the Ortho doc tomorrow. I guess I'll just really have to bust it on legs for a while until I can get my upper body working properly again. Hopefully I'll at least be able to get on the treadmill soon, so I can stay tight. Thank you again for all the well wishes. They are truly appreciated. - EME __________________ PhysiqueFXonline - Online Nutrition and Training with Michael and Kendra Elias: www.MichaelandKendra.com Team Molecular Nutrition Creative Director FAME Media Group / World Natural Sports Organization Editor-In-Chief FAME Magazine www.FAMEWorldTour.com Last edited by EME : 12-14-2005 at 08:49 PM.

12-14-2005, 12:48 PM	#31
Hybrid IMPC Contestant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gibsonia PA Posts: 824 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 14	That sucks! You were getting so big Best of luck to a speedy recovery.

12-14-2005, 02:00 PM	#33
dbflgirl Silver Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hurricane Alley Posts: 646 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 19	Ouch! I hope it's not as bad as you think.

12-14-2005, 05:12 PM	#36
Bulk New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 17 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Ouch!!!! I'm really sorry to hear about that EME. I wish you a speedy recovery. It really sucks to hear that this happened to you!

12-14-2005, 07:36 PM	#40
Old Navy NGA & IDFA Master Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 533 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 18	Hey, Michael, as you know, I am new to this Forum, but early on, I sensed you were one of the important Players here. I really was looking forward to meeting you in Toronto at the WNSO Worlds. I'm very, very sorry to hear about your injury. It's one of the things I worry about training at my age for competitions. I have never lifted 100 pound dumb bells, but did do 90s once, which was enough for me. Anyway, I hope the WNSO is understanding and waves the requirement that you have to compete in 2006 to keep your Pro Card. I will pray for your speedy recovery and return to the Ironman Game. My best wishes are with you and Kendra. God Bless. Regards, Old Navy

12-14-2005, 08:38 PM	#42
Old Navy NGA & IDFA Master Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 533 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 18	Hey, Michael, I hope you don't mind, but I posted the news of your injury on Discussbodybuilding.com (DB.com) and you have already received some comments of sympathy. We are all rooting for your full recovery. Warm Regards, Old Navy

12-14-2005, 09:28 PM	#44
Dex Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 299 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 8	I'm sorry to hear about your injury EME...hang in there. You will be back with a vengeance and soon, no doubt. I'd like to thank you...while I'm at it,for being such a HUGE inspiration for so many of us out there. :beer1:

12-14-2005, 10:11 PM	#45
AYung IMPC Contestant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada Posts: 2,303 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 42	I'm sorry I missed out on the news yesterday. I'm glad that your alright and I wish you a very speedy recovery. It looks pretty painful, but your tough! Good luck man! __________________ Clean Bulking Journal http://www.ironmass.com/showthread.php?t=9546 Max Lifts Bench: 155 x 6 Deadlift: 315 x 6 Squat: 245 x 6 1 Rep Max Lifts Bench: 180 - Tested Deadlift: 365 - Tested Squat: 285 - Estimated TOTAL: 831 @ 156lbs Eddie Guerrero (1967-2005, R.I.P.) You'll always be loved and remembered.

12-14-2005, 10:50 PM	#47
Peaked_18 a la commode Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,247 Recipes: 2 Rep Power: 96	Wow, a pec tear is tough to come back from. It is quite possible, hopefully his chest physique isn't messed up, that would be most unforturnate for Michael and his career. This is one of those common injuries that are horrible... Michael, I hope you get better. It'll be a slow recovery, keep your diet up and hopefully get back into training later on. I bet your tore it with those 150's I am very sorry though.