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Old 12-06-2005, 10:50 PM   #1
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Default Newbie Question: Main difference between training between PL and BB?

Sorry if this is answered in a sticky or something, but I never saw the the exact answer I'm looking for.

Would it be possible to give me/show me an example of a workout program that a Powerlifter would follow, including exercises, sets, and reps on what days? If you could do that, it would answer all of my questions
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:59 PM   #2
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Exercises are different, reps are a little different. A powerlifter would have more volume. Obviously use a lot more weight. Use longer rests between sets. There include max effort and dynamic effort days. Exercises switch every 1-3 weeks.

Just read a few articles about the training. I suggest going to the Helpful Links thread and look at Zack's post and look for the Eight Keys Part II article and start reading.
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Old 12-08-2005, 01:27 AM   #3
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also powerlifters train for strength

bodybuilders train for looks


that has to be the biggest difernce
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Most powerlifters focus much more on heavy compound movements and don't spend nearly as much time as bodybuilders on isolation movements.

When I was powerlifting, I didn't do a lot of dumbbell kickbacks for Tri's, or Dumbbell rear laterals for shoulders..... I did close grip bench for Tri's and Military Presses or Cleans and Presses for shoulders.

I didn't really care what my shoulders or tri's looked like... I just wanted them strong.

When I was powerlifting I did many more 7,5,3 rep scheme pyramids instead of sets of 6-10 like I usually do now.

I don't do partial reps or negatives now, but I routinely did negatives and lockout sets when I was powerlifting.

Both disciplines focus on weight and lifting it... but they are really very different.

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A PLer must also develope his/her CNS to produce maximum results from maximum effort.
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bump. this thread needs action.

- there is much more emphasis on one's "chassy" is PLing. Nothing matters more than strong hams and glutes. Quads are the key in BBing.
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I think, without posting any specific programs, it all boils down to training movements v/s training muslces. Powerlifters and o-lifters train movements, whereas a bodybuilders 'target muscles'. Training movements for strength is powerlifting, whereas training muslces for looks is bodybuilding. A training program will reflect one intention or the other, so will lifting technique.

Weightloss carries another difference in intention between bodybuilders and powerlifters. A bodybuilder looses fat to look lean, whereas a powerlifter attempts to improve his/her strength to weight ratio.

The differences are subtle, and are directed by the intended outcome that the lifter is shooting for, and the way a lifter measures succes, (by strength increase, or looks).
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To sum it in a heart beat.

Powerlifters goal: improve bench, squat, and deadlift.

Bodybuilding goal: Get bigger, and look better overall.
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exactly

powerlifters couldnt care less about looks and how big ur tri's are, they just want a huge bench and squat and deadlift.


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powerlifters couldnt care less about looks and how big ur tri's are, they just want a huge bench and squat and deadlift.


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Example: Dave Tate :giggle:
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