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Old 04-30-2007, 07:39 PM   #31
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6-8 meals seems tough for me to do throughout the day, what size should each meal be roughly?



btw, i met with the instructor dude today and he gave another 6 week program, thansk Peaked_18 for your tips. ill post the exact workout when i can get the sheet (i cant remember it all )
Follow this thread, calculate the amount of cals you'll need per day and roughly divide it between the meals.
http://www.ironmass.com/fat-loss/214...-shape-up.html
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:43 PM   #32
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6-8 meals seems tough for me to do throughout the day, what size should each meal be roughly?



btw, i met with the instructor dude today and he gave another 6 week program, thansk Peaked_18 for your tips. ill post the exact workout when i can get the sheet (i cant remember it all )
Try to work out the math, I said ~360 grams of protein a day, divide that up and get an even number of fats and carbs in those meals. Post up a diet regime and I'll help you out.
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:04 PM   #33
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Try to work out the math, I said ~360 grams of protein a day, divide that up and get an even number of fats and carbs in those meals. Post up a diet regime and I'll help you out.
I dont see how i can physically get 360 grams of protein down my neck, today ive had.

2x protein shake (50g protein)
240g chicken
1 can of tuna (15g protein)
about 200g of salmon (? protein)
1/2 packet of low fat noodles
2 eggs scrambled
3 bananas
rocket
water
cereal

i think thats all i had
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Some basic guidelines for diet:
-eat 6-8 meals every 2-3 hours (balance of proteins, good carbs, and good fats)
-Consume a protein drink before and after a workout (slow and fast carbs before, fast carbs after).
-aim for 2g per lb. of bodyweight for protein
-eat a slow digesting protein at night and some healthy fats, no carbs.

Guidelines for training:
-3 full-body days per week (monday, wednesday, friday)
-Choose from these lifts (deadlift, box squat, bench press, barbell row, incline barbell press, pull-downs/chins)
-choose 3 sets of 8-10 reps for starting out, getting the form down, and getting to know the lifts. Than periodize down to heavier weights with those exercises.
-change your exercises every 3-4 weeks
-take a deload week (deloading intensity not volume) every 6-8 weeks.

Get enough sleep, 9 hours would be nice.

Remember to rest, that is when you grow.
I have to disagree with some of what you said...3 full body-days that frequently sounds like overtraining. A 3 day split would be better, ex: Monday: Chest/Tri/Abs Wednsday: Back/Bi Friday:Leg/Shoulders. Especially since he is new he would be getting sore easily, and might end up working on sore muscles. Also I say anywhere from 1g-2g of protein per lb of bodyweight is sufficient. Also since you are bulking, not cutting go for 4-5 meals instead of 6-8, 4-5 works better for bulking because your metabolism isn't as fast.

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I dont see how i can physically get 360 grams of protein down my neck, today ive had.

2x protein shake (50g protein)
240g chicken
1 can of tuna (15g protein)
about 200g of salmon (? protein)
1/2 packet of low fat noodles
2 eggs scrambled
3 bananas
rocket
water
cereal

i think thats all i had
Put the protein shake in skim milk, that's another 16-18g of protein, 180-200g or protein will work just fine IMO. Drop the rockets too, I wouldn't recommend putting dangerous explosives into your system. :cool3:

Also you may have heard that attitude is everything, well I noticed how you said "trying my best to.." well that's a weak attitude, think about it...you're putting a limit to yourself, when really you could do more than what you claim is your best. Alright say you run a mile, and you said you did your best, is that really true, are you sure you couldn't push yourself a little more, I'm sure that it is physically possible to push harder...that
'do your best' thing has got to go, it is only limiting you mentally. Besides that it sounds corny as hell, lol. I don't mean to preach just offering some advice.

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I just finished another 6 week workout program which was full body workouts 3 times a week and 1 cardio day on tuesday.

each 2 weeks i would add as much weight as a could and lower the reps like:

wk 1-2: 12reps
wk 3-4: 10reps
wk 5-6: 12reps

I've had ALOT of trouble with eating, the MAX meals i can get in me a day is 3, my mum friggin moans that i "should only have 1 cooked mean a day" even though i spend all my student loan on chicken etc... I tried to compensate by doubling my shake intake to 4 cups a day

Ive seen pretty crappy results overall even when im trying as hard as i can in the gym, ill post pics 2moro


Im pretty close to going to burger king
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photo 6 weeks after 1st, nothing changed



i must have crappy genes or something coz ive been working my ass off and nothing happens
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