5 months progress....suckage.

Zeroskillet · 09-28-2006, 08:49 PM

Kinda a not controlled "bulk" diet.

5'9" 199lbs. Do I cut? "Bulk" more?

Back:

Front:

Side:

Front flex, no before:

I just started the Bill Starr 5x5 routine inorder to bulk on some real size

Zeroskillet · 09-28-2006, 09:05 PM

What routine do you guys suggets I start?

DarkFalcon · 09-28-2006, 09:28 PM

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What routine do you guys suggets I start?

Nothing wrong with the routine your using as you can easily tell you've added some real muscle. The obvious problem is your diet, you put on as much fat as you did muscle so your really going to have to adjust your meal plan.

Zeroskillet · 09-28-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

Nothing wrong with the routine your using as you can easily tell you've added some real muscle. The obvious problem is your diet, you put on as much fat as you did muscle so your really going to have to adjust your meal plan.

Well I just started the Bill Starr 5x5 routine on Monday....Ill post my most recent routine...which Ive changed 100 times because of pure ignorance alittle later. Its pretty long.

DarkFalcon · 09-28-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeroskillet

Well I just started the Bill Starr 5x5 routine on Monday....Ill post my most recent routine...which Ive changed 100 times because of pure ignorance alittle later. Its pretty long.

Bill Starr 5x5 is a great routine you'll do well on it. Up your cardio levels and clean up your diet and you'll be much happier with your results. Take some time and read the stickies in the nutrition section.

Zeroskillet · 09-28-2006, 09:40 PM

Cool, how much cardio...because me ultimate goal would be to bulk no?

DarkFalcon · 09-28-2006, 09:43 PM

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Cool, how much cardio...because me ultimate goal would be to bulk no?

Bulk doesn't mean it's a fat free for all..lol. Do moderate cardio 3x a week and figure out your exact daily macro's and make the adjustment's you need. Look into HIT cardio, it will help you retain your muscle while you shed the excess fat.

Zeroskillet · 09-28-2006, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

Bulk doesn't mean it's a fat free for all..lol. Do moderate cardio 3x a week and figure out your exact daily macro's and make the adjustment's you need. Look into HIT cardio, it will help you retain your muscle while you shed the excess fat.

Nice.

So cardio on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday would be good. Is HIT different from HIIT?

Also anything to help review my Macro's?

DarkFalcon · 09-28-2006, 10:02 PM

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Nice.

So cardio on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday would be good. Is HIT different from HIIT?

Also anything to help review my Macro's?

No difference between the two no. As far as figuring out your macro's go to this forum and read the sticky's. They are all excellent and will get you on the path to glory. Cheer's

http://www.ironmass.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

Zeroskillet · 09-28-2006, 11:02 PM

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No difference between the two no. As far as figuring out your macro's go to this forum and read the sticky's. They are all excellent and will get you on the path to glory. Cheer's

http://www.ironmass.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6

Thanks alot man...you're really helpful and cool.

Also just to let you know. The Bill Starr Routine Im running is the original one, not the madcow or anything.

Also should I use a calculator to estimate my calorical/protein intake or can you suggest something that is common?

DarkFalcon · 09-28-2006, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeroskillet

Thanks alot man...you're really helpful and cool.

Also just to let you know. The Bill Starr Routine Im running is the original one, not the madcow or anything.

Also should I use a calculator to estimate my calorical/protein intake or can you suggest something that is common?

Thanks, how can I not help a fellow hockey fan?

You need a calculator but my fellow mod and extra helpful guy EME has a simple to use one on his site that he created. Just plug in your stat's and it will give you everything.
http://www.michaelelias.com/
Go to the bottom right of the page and click on BMR, caloric need and macro calculator.
Cheers

Zeroskillet · 09-28-2006, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

Thanks, how can I not help a fellow hockey fan?

You need a calculator but my fellow mod and extra helpful guy EME has a simple to use one on his site that he created. Just plug in your stat's and it will give you everything.
http://www.michaelelias.com/
Go to the bottom right of the page and click on BMR, caloric need and macro calculator.
Cheers

:clapping:

Dude I just downloaded that before I went online/you answered me. w00t w00t.

I d/'l'd the bulking one even though some other guy told me to trim down first.

DarkFalcon · 09-28-2006, 11:54 PM

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:clapping:

Dude I just downloaded that before I went online/you answered me. w00t w00t.

I d/'l'd the bulking one even though some other guy told me to trim down first.

Your at that point where you could do either. Your not super fat where it's an absolute must to cut and the added muscle will certainly help with future fat burn. I would continue adding mass (not bulking just to add weight to the scale) and make the adjustment's you need to slowly drop the fat while you put on more size.

Zeroskillet · 10-02-2006, 05:05 AM

Anybody else have suggestions to the already great help Dark has gave me?

wannabstrong · 10-03-2006, 09:31 AM

You should do a clean bulk and take a good hard look at your diet. Whatever you did wrong during the past 5 months should be corrected this time around. In fact, post the diet you followed during that time period.

El Capitan · 10-04-2006, 10:58 PM

You could try a timed- carb diet. When carbs aren't being used, the are stored as glycogen or fat. so if you don't eat carbs when you don't need them, you won't put on that excess fat. idk just a random thought.

EC

Trick D · 10-05-2006, 06:27 PM

I think you have done great adding on additional mass. Keep up the good work.

Zeroskillet · 10-06-2006, 09:04 AM

Thanks guys....like I said...my "routine's" were all over the place, my diet was eat EVERYTHING in sight

, and I cut cardio out completley.

Stupid stuff really....really noob stuff. But now Im learning, reading, asking, and doing.

thanks for support/help.

Zeroskillet · 10-06-2006, 09:10 AM

My new routine....modified Bill Starr 5x5. Open to suggestions
Monday
Squat 5x5
Bench 5x5
BB Row 5x5
Pullups 3x5

Assistance:
Hypers 2x10 45lbs
WEighted situps 2x10 45lbs

Wednesday
Squat 4x5
Inline Bench 4x5
Deadlift 4x5
Military(standing) 4x5

Assistance:
BB curls 3x10
DB curls 3x10

Friday
Squat 4x5, 1x3, 1x8
Bench 4x5, 1x3, 1x8
BB Row 4x5, 1x3, 1x8

Assitance:
Weighted Dips: 3x8
Laying Tricep Extension: 3x10

and in the next couple of days Ill post my newest 5 day diet. Tried cleaning up a bit while steal eating around 3k calories. Ill post it to see what you guys think and maybe you can help out.

Zeroskillet · 10-06-2006, 09:10 AM

My new routine....modified Bill Starr 5x5. Open to suggestions
Monday
Squat 5x5
Bench 5x5
BB Row 5x5
Pullups 3x5

Assistance:
Hypers 2x10 45lbs
WEighted situps 2x10 45lbs

Wednesday
Squat 4x5
Inline Bench 4x5
Deadlift 4x5
Military(standing) 4x5

Assistance:
BB curls 3x10
DB curls 3x10

Friday
Squat 4x5, 1x3, 1x8
Bench 4x5, 1x3, 1x8
BB Row 4x5, 1x3, 1x8

Assitance:
Weighted Dips: 3x8
Laying Tricep Extension: 3x10

and in the next couple of days Ill post my newest 5 day diet. Tried cleaning up a bit while steal eating around 3k calories. Ill post it to see what you guys think and maybe you can help out.

09-28-2006, 08:49 PM	#1
Zeroskillet Amateur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 40 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	5 months progress....suckage. Kinda a not controlled "bulk" diet. 5'9" 199lbs. Do I cut? "Bulk" more? Back: Front: Side: Front flex, no before: I just started the Bill Starr 5x5 routine inorder to bulk on some real size

10-04-2006, 10:58 PM	#16
El Capitan Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 531 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 15	You could try a timed- carb diet. When carbs aren't being used, the are stored as glycogen or fat. so if you don't eat carbs when you don't need them, you won't put on that excess fat. idk just a random thought. EC __________________ Current/ goal for end of summer: Shitty life/ improve my life.

09-28-2006, 09:05 PM	#2
Zeroskillet Amateur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 40 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	What routine do you guys suggets I start?

09-28-2006, 09:40 PM	#6
Zeroskillet Amateur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 40 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Cool, how much cardio...because me ultimate goal would be to bulk no?

10-02-2006, 05:05 AM	#14
Zeroskillet Amateur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 40 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Anybody else have suggestions to the already great help Dark has gave me?

10-03-2006, 09:31 AM	#15
wannabstrong Pro Stature Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 105 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 14	You should do a clean bulk and take a good hard look at your diet. Whatever you did wrong during the past 5 months should be corrected this time around. In fact, post the diet you followed during that time period.

10-06-2006, 09:04 AM	#18
Zeroskillet Amateur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 40 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	Thanks guys....like I said...my "routine's" were all over the place, my diet was eat EVERYTHING in sight , and I cut cardio out completley. Stupid stuff really....really noob stuff. But now Im learning, reading, asking, and doing. thanks for support/help.

10-06-2006, 09:10 AM	#19
Zeroskillet Amateur Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 40 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 0	My new routine....modified Bill Starr 5x5. Open to suggestions Monday Squat 5x5 Bench 5x5 BB Row 5x5 Pullups 3x5 Assistance: Hypers 2x10 45lbs WEighted situps 2x10 45lbs Wednesday Squat 4x5 Inline Bench 4x5 Deadlift 4x5 Military(standing) 4x5 Assistance: BB curls 3x10 DB curls 3x10 Friday Squat 4x5, 1x3, 1x8 Bench 4x5, 1x3, 1x8 BB Row 4x5, 1x3, 1x8 Assitance: Weighted Dips: 3x8 Laying Tricep Extension: 3x10 and in the next couple of days Ill post my newest 5 day diet. Tried cleaning up a bit while steal eating around 3k calories. Ill post it to see what you guys think and maybe you can help out.