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Old 05-22-2005, 06:08 PM   #1
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Why do People want to "bulk up" and lose there Eight pack


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The buck 50 writers from FLEX and Muscle and Fitness seem to think you need to eat 10,000 calories a day and the dietary allowance of 5 Big Mac's a day to put on an ounce of muscle, in turn putting on 10lbs of fat.
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The buck 50 writers from FLEX and Muscle and Fitness seem to think you need to eat 10,000 calories a day and the dietary allowance of 5 Big Mac's a day to put on an ounce of muscle, in turn putting on 10lbs of fat.
Yeah, it seems to be that way....im in a bulking cycle right now, but its a lean muscle bulking cycle.....none the less its still bulking....i do eat alot of food but it is good food, not fatty stuff....i could prolly pack in more calories if i ate wrong but i chose not too.

Also, that is why you have a cutting stage....you bulk up then get huge, and afterwards you cut and ummmmmm get.......cut
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that sounds healthly, do you still appear to look cut while bulking
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Why do People want to "bulk up" and lose there Eight pack
The problem is that most people use "bulking up" as an excuse to eat whatever they want in whatever quantities they want. That's why they put on so much fat. If you bulk eating a set amount of calories over maintenance and eat clean foods there is no reason to put on that much fat while "bulking."
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for me its an excuse to eat alot of good stuffs without gaining as much fat as i normally would. (and gaining more muscle)

not big macs, i mean like baked zitis, diner breakfasts, stuff like that.

if you get stretch marks easily though its not worth it.
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how do you make your baked Ziti. I make it all the time my wife loves it just wondering if you do anything diffrent
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how do you make your baked Ziti. I make it all the time my wife loves it just wondering if you do anything diffrent
im not italian or culinarily gifted at all i just buy mine. i like it very well done, and dont mind using less oil.

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Extremist Measure,

A controlled bulk allows you train heavier and build more overall muscle than you can when trying to build muscle while staying very lean.

Some people are blessed with genetics that allow them to continue to build quality muscle with just a minimal caloric surplus, but most of us have to allow our bodyfat % to go up somewhat in order to really make progress in the mass building department.

Now, I'm not saying it's necessary to baloon up and get fat, but you sometimes have to give up some of your cuts temporarily if you really want to pack on the mass.

Here is an example of my mass building progress over the last year.
As you can see, I made a net gain of about 11-13 pounds of true lean muscle between June '04 and April 2005. That would be significant for anyone, but it's especially significant when you consider that I have been training for over 20 years, and I'm no longer experiencing any beginner gains.


When done correctly, a controlled bulking phase can really help you build muscle. BUT, it has to be done with just as much discipline as your cutting phase to be truly effective.

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I do not think anyone could put that better than EME just did....
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im not italian or culinarily gifted at all i just buy mine. i like it very well done, and dont mind using less oil.

U got any great recipes youd like to share?
ya I'll send them your way
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Extremist Measure,

A controlled bulk allows you train heavier and build more overall muscle than you can when trying to build muscle while staying very lean.

Some people are blessed with genetics that allow them to continue to build quality muscle with just a minimal caloric surplus, but most of us have to allow our bodyfat % to go up somewhat in order to really make progress in the mass building department.

Now, I'm not saying it's necessary to baloon up and get fat, but you sometimes have to give up some of your cuts temporarily if you really want to pack on the mass.

Here is an example of my mass building progress over the last year.
As you can see, I made a net gain of about 11-13 pounds of true lean muscle between June '04 and April 2005. That would be significant for anyone, but it's especially significant when you consider that I have been training for over 20 years, and I'm no longer experiencing any beginner gains.


When done correctly, a controlled bulking phase can really help you build muscle. BUT, it has to be done with just as much discipline as your cutting phase to be truly effective.

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oh ok I can gain strength and muscle while keeping mybody fat low.
I agree you need to eat more but with quality foods. I suppliment with protein 70 grams a day along with what ever I eat.
from Jan to may I went from 179 to 190 and I just got cutter, and alot stronger.
[Lbs (setsXrept)]
Preacher curl 85 to 125 (4X6)
bench 205 to 265 (4X6)
weighted pullups 25 to 105 (4X5)
behind my neck press 135 to 185 (4X6)

have you seen my weighted pullups? with 165lbs
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oh ok I can gain strength and muscle while keeping mybody fat low.
I agree you need to eat more but with quality foods. I suppliment with protein 70 grams a day along with what ever I eat.
from Jan to may I went from 179 to 190 and I just got cutter, and alot stronger.
[Lbs (setsXrept)]
Preacher curl 85 to 125 (4X6)
bench 205 to 265 (4X6)
weighted pullups 25 to 105 (4X5)
behind my neck press 135 to 185 (4X6)

have you seen my weighted pullups? with 165lbs
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