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Old 08-17-2006, 03:16 AM   #1
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By CATHERINE TSAI, Associated Press Writer




BOULDER, Colo. - A former school teacher was arrested Wednesday in Thailand in the slaying of 6-year-old beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey — a surprise breakthrough in a lurid, decade-old murder mystery that had cast a cloud of suspicion over her parents.



Ramsey family attorney Lin Wood identified the suspect as John Mark Karr, 41. Federal officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed the name, and one law enforcement official told The Associated Press that Boulder police had tracked him down online.

Wood said the arrest vindicated JonBenet's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey. Patsy Ramsey died of ovarian cancer June 24.

"John and Patsy lived their lives knowing they were innocent, trying to raise a son despite the furor around them," Wood said. "The story of this family is a story of courage, and story of an American injustice and tragedy that ultimately people will have to look back on and hopefully learn from."

The attorney said the Ramseys learned about the suspect a least a month before Patsy Ramsey's death. "It's been a very long 10 years, and I'm just sorry Patsy isn't here for me to hug her neck," Wood said.

Karr was a teacher who once lived in Conyers, Ga., according to Wood. The attorney said the Ramseys gave police information about Karr before he was identified as a suspect.

Wood would not say how the Ramseys knew Karr. But JonBenet was born in Atlanta in 1990, and the Ramseys lived in the Atlanta suburb of Dunwoody for several years before moving to Colorado in 1991.

Thai police said that when Karr was arrested, he denied any involvement in Ramsey's slaying. But a source close to the investigation in the U.S. said Karr confessed to certain elements of the crime. Also, a law enforcement source, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the AP that Karr had been communicating periodically with somebody in Boulder who had been following the case and cooperating with law enforcement officials.

District Attorney Mary Lacy said the arrest followed several months of work, but she said no details would be released until Thursday.

U.S. authorities said Karr was initially taken into custody in Bangkok on unrelated sex charges. But Thai police Lt. Gen. Suwat Tumrongsiskul said he was unaware of any criminal charges the suspect faced in Thailand.

Thai police said Karr was arrested at his apartment in downtown Bangkok at the request of U.S. officials, and was being held until they arrived. Suwat said he expected U.S. officials to take Karr back to America in the next few days.

JonBenet was found beaten and strangled in the basement of the family's home in Boulder on Dec. 26, 1996. Patsy Ramsey reported finding a ransom note in the house demanding $118,000 for her daughter.

The image of blonde-haired little JonBenet in a cowgirl costume and other beauty pageant outfits has haunted TV talk shows ever since, helping feed myriad theories about her killer, and the case became one of the most sensational unsolved murder cases in the nation.

Over the years, some experts suggested that investigators had botched the case so thoroughly that it might never be solved.

Investigators at one point said JonBenet's parents were under an "umbrella of suspicion" in the slaying. And some news accounts cast suspicion on JonBenet's older brother. But the Ramseys insisted an intruder killed their daughter, and no one was ever charged.

In the months after the slaying, Patsy Ramsey went before the cameras, vigorously defending herself and her husband, chastising the media and blasting local law enforcement as incompetent.

In a statement Wednesday, John Ramsey said: "Patsy was aware that authorities were close to making an arrest in the case, and had she lived to see this day, would no doubt have been as pleased as I am with today's development almost 10 years after our daughter's murder."

The Ramseys moved back to Atlanta after their daughter's slaying.

Wood lashed out at the frenzy that long surrounded the case, and he accused the media of "the most obscene false accusations." "I think the public's mind was so poisoned against this family that no one was able for too many years to look at the evidence," he said.

Patsy Ramsey's sister, Pam Paugh, of Roswell, Ga., said the family was celebrating the news of the arrest. "We are elated. We are elated. If this is, in fact, the killer, then we have a very heinous killer off the streets to never harm another child," Paugh said.

Lib Waters of Marietta, Ga., visited the gravesites of Patsy and JonBenet Ramsey in the Atlanta suburb immediately after hearing news reports about the arrest.

Waters, who described herself as a longtime friend of the Ramsey family, taped a piece of notebook paper to JonBenet Ramsey's headstone that read: "Dearest Patsy, Justice has come for you and Jon. Rest in peace."

In 2003, a federal judge in Atlanta concluded that the evidence she reviewed suggested an intruder killed JonBenet. That opinion came with the judge's decision to dismiss a libel and slander lawsuit against the Ramseys by a freelance journalist, whom the Ramseys had named as a suspect in their daughter's murder. The Boulder district attorney at the time said she agreed with the judge's declaration.

"Today is additional vindication of the family," Wood said.

Wood said he and the Ramseys "have been totally amazed and impressed with the professionalism of law enforcement" under Lacy's direction. Lacy became district attorney in 2001.

Lawrence Schiller, author of the 1999 book "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town" about the case, said Wednesday he understood the man had been on a list of sexual offenders who were suspects for a long time.

"There are a lot of facts about her actual death that the public does not know." Schiller said. "If he did confess to some facts of the murder, to reveal those facts of the case, that would finish the puzzle."

Among the facts he said were not generally known was the murder weapon and what the killer did with it.

DNA was found beneath JonBenet's fingernails and inside her underwear, but Wood said two years ago that detectives were unable to match it to anyone in an FBI database. It was not immediately known Wednesday whether investigators had any DNA evidence against Karr.

Bob Grant, a former Adams County district attorney who worked on the case, said there was never enough evidence to convince him that any potential suspect could be successfully prosecuted.

"I wasn't convinced it was an inside job, nor was I convinced it was an outside job," he said. "All the outside suspects were cleared after exhaustive investigation, and there were a whole lot of outside suspects."

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Associated Press Writers Suzanne Gamboa and Lara Jakes Jordan in Washington; Jon Sarche, Judith Kohler, Robert Weller and Chase Squires in Denver; Linda Deutsch in Los Angeles; Harry R. Weber in Atlanta; and Doug Gross in Marietta, Ga., contributed to this report.
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about F8cking time... I can't believe people murder and predate our youth... I hope he rots in jail... sad that the mom was always a suspect and she died earlier this year.
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She knew that they were close to arresting him before she died... she died June 24th.. from cancer..
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Suspect admits killing JonBenet Ramsey

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BANGKOK, Thailand - The American suspect in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case said publicly Thursday he was with the 6-year-old when she died and called her death "an accident," a stunning admission that will help answer 10 years of questions in the unsolved murder case.



"I was with JonBenet when she died," John Mark Karr told reporters in Bangkok, visibly nervous and stuttering as he spoke. "Her death was an accident."

Police said Karr, 41, admitted to the killing after he was arrested Wednesday at his downtown Bangkok apartment by Thai and American authorities.

Karr will be transported to Colorado in the next week where he will face charges of murder, kidnapping and child sexual assault, said Ann Hurst, a U.S. official with the Department of Homeland Security.
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What a crock of shit. The murderer died June 24th. Her co-collaborator is still alive. His name is John.
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Well this guy has admitted to doing it.. I always thought that one of them did it too.. but I guess I was wrong.. you should go look at the pictures of this guy.. he is a sexual predator.. and was arrested in Bangkok for sexual assualts of some nature... he is truely a piece of sh*t...
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Well this guy has admitted to doing it.. I always thought that one of them did it too.. but I guess I was wrong.. you should go look at the pictures of this guy.. he is a sexual predator.. and was arrested in Bangkok for sexual assualts of some nature... he is truely a piece of sh*t...
You think this is the first time someone has claimed to be responsible for a crime they didn't in reality commit? His admission is fine, the fact he looks like a sex predator holds no weight whatsoever - but can we point to facts and evidence that suggest he was the man that did it?
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True I will not go by just a confession that he gave in Thailand. They where discussing this on a radio show as the guy is accused of sexual crap in Thailand. He could have admitted to it to keep him out of Thailand jail. I mean seriously life in jail in Thailand for sex assalt and sex trafficing according to some sources or life here in a U.S. club fed prison. I'll wait more as this devolops.

The Ramseys lived in the Atlanta suburb of Dunwoody for several years before moving to Colorado in 1991.

Karr's father told The Denver Post that while Karr was in college, which he attended as an adult, a professor encouraged him to write a book about the Ramsey case after being impressed with a school paper.

"He researched everything he could about her," Wexford Karr said.

John Karr spoke with JonBenet's grandparents, but the Ramseys refused an interview, Wexford Karr said.

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When they match the DNA evidence under her fingernails to him I will believe it.
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I'm with Ihateeveryone on this one - I still believe the parents did it.
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There is a chance this guy is a fraud. I'll reserve judgement until all the evidence is in.
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He said he drugged her and accidentally killed her after raping.

They found no drugs in her body, but they did find signs of forced entry. He's lying.
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There was a debate on drew and mike. This guy is also kinda smart about this since they say he was gonna end up in a thai prison. He confesses to a HIGH profile crime and especially a child crime at that. He knew it would make the news. Now a DA in the U.S. after something like that has to go and get this guy and bring him back to the U.S. If this didn't make big news I am sure someone could say hey let's leave him there in thier prison's. As they were debating I mean come on what prison would you prefer to be in. Thai or U.S. . Not to mention guess what happens if this guy gets to the U.S. for trial and if by DNA evidence and like how he is saying facts that are not adding up. Guess what happens. Since he is a U.S. citizen we can not send him back for sex crimes to Thailand. SO HE WILL BE A FREE MAN IN THE U.S. THE SICK **** IF WE CANNOT PROVE THIS IS THE MAN WHO KILLED HER. A confession means nothing he can walk into court and even say the confession was a lie to get him out of Thailand. Then basically say the story dna and such don't match so if the glove don't fit you didn't do teh crime.

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He said he drugged her and accidentally killed her after raping.

They found no drugs in her body, but they did find signs of forced entry. He's lying.
They found pineapple in her body. Both parents claimed she'd not eaten once she came home on Christmas Eve - she supposedly went straight to bed. They couldn't explain the pineapple at all - until they were told weeks after that pineapple was found beside her bed - and all of a sudden they remembered
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Why cant he be sent back to Thai... they sent him back here.. I see no reason why he cant be sent back..

And what happens when the DNA matches... or if the DNA matches... I am not saying I am 100% convinced that he did it... cause I am like the rest of you.. I just had a feelin that the parents did it.. but it is at least interesting that this is going on..
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I can't remember the detail but it was something with the way extraditions work. They were explanin on the radio why it has something to do with him bieng american citizen and bieng in county of origin. There is a trick to it I think. In many cases unless by treatie you are to be tried in the country under certain cases of your country of origin. That is why in some cases and such they simply deport the immigrant, they are supposed to be tried for the crime in thier countries laws but not always the case. I think I could be wrong. I know it was that way a while back as a way to protect your citizens but it is if the country chooses to do it. Many bad cases they say screw it and leave the guy in that country to deal with them.
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