Obama's accomplishments

**skelooth** · 02-20-2008, 01:20 PM

Regardless of your political beliefs, you have to admit this is a pretty uncomfortable situation, hah.

**powerman2000** · 02-20-2008, 03:46 PM

What accomplishments? :busted1:

**BigZeke** · 02-22-2008, 02:32 PM

"Above all, do not join the wrong ideological groups or movements, in order to 'do something.' " Ayn Rand

Drew1200 · 02-22-2008, 05:31 PM

Funny thing is Hilary hasn't passed any notable legislation either...and alot of what McCain has passed is what makes the right so unhappy with him.

**skelooth** · 02-22-2008, 08:44 PM

^ we're not talking about that, we're talking about how uncomfortable these situations are

They've ALL helped pass legisislation just by nature of their jobs. This is just a funny question because no one knows the answer

**builtbeast** · 02-22-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew1200

Funny thing is Hilary hasn't passed any notable legislation either

At least with Hillary you know what you're getting, I remember the first time she was President.

**skelooth** · 02-23-2008, 03:59 PM

**NYCmitch25** · 02-23-2008, 09:29 PM

the classic knock on all canidates - "they lack experience" - everyone says that - im carefull not to fall into that trap. make up my own mind.

**romanaz** · 02-23-2008, 09:57 PM

even though that first video pisses me off that anyone would say that kind of shit, it still doesn't reflect on Obama unless he openly says "I support Farrakan's views" or whatever the guys name was. So, if then, say my temple seperates the women and men during service, does that mean I think women aren't as good as men or anything of that nature? No, it doesn't.

**skelooth** · 02-24-2008, 04:18 AM

omg you are teh sexist!!!

The thing about the OJ reference gets under my skin, the Farrakhan reference is a little of a far stretch imo. I just posted them to be mischievous

I am a Clinton supporter and can't help but giggle with glee now that the obama dirt is finally starting to surface. 3-4 months ago people were acting like this guy was squeaky clean. He's running on a podium of getting rid of the 'old washington' and the 'insiders' while being endorsed by and working with the kennedy family, he's running on a podium of getting rid of 'old politics' when there are two seperate incidences where his campaign has sent out confusing attack mailers similiar to what the republicans had sent out in the 90s.

The man's a great speech giver, but his voting record (massive absences) is terrible, his nuclear reform bill was mushed and molded by lobbyists, and he runs on a platform claiming 'change' that is not possible.

I am sorry, no one man can just waltz into washington as a first term senator and suddenly resolve the bipartisanship and somehow depower the lobbyists, the mega wealthy, and the washington insiders. It's not realistic.

On the rest of the issues his plans are very similiar to Hillary's, only Hillary's had hers published first and she is specific about how she intends to accomplish them.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and my opinion is that Hillary is not just a better choice, but a good choice. She has me convinced that she will save this economy through technology and end the bush era of anti-science. That's what I've been crying for ever since Bill left the white house.

But I've said too much

Politics are a sensitive issue, and you will always end up pissing off at least one person by expressing your view. This season I have been avoiding speaking outloud about it. I differ a lot from the typical republican, and at the moment I am having a hard time seeing eye to eye with (rabid) obama supporters. I'm just going to hope my candidate wins, and if not, vote for Obama. Sorry, McWar scares me.

**romanaz** · 02-24-2008, 05:53 AM

I do agree with you Skel on some points. Sadly I don't trust ANY of them, but when it comes down to it, I'll vote for whoever isn't a Republican.

**bubba g** · 02-24-2008, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by romanaz

I do agree with you Skel on some points. Sadly I don't trust ANY of them, but when it comes down to it, I'll vote for whoever isn't a Republican.

I would vote dem if they could come up with a good candidate..

Honestly am not really happy with any of the candidates.

**skelooth** · 02-24-2008, 01:51 PM

This just in: Ralph Nader is running as an independent. All hail McCain... our new president.

**BigZeke** · 02-24-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by skelooth

She has me convinced that she will save this economy through technology and end the bush era of anti-science. That's what I've been crying for ever since Bill left the white house.

LOL, I don't think you have a clue how the economy works. She will destroy the economy.

**skelooth** · 02-24-2008, 11:18 PM

enter the brain dead. I am SO SORRY OH GREAT INTELLECTUAL SUPERIOR!!! Perhaps if I just sit here quietly you will teach me the mighty ways of your superiority! You are exactly the person I didn't want in this topic.

You and I already BOTH KNOW we have NOTHING to say to each other, so for the sake of maturity, please STAY AWAY FROM ME.

**romanaz** · 02-25-2008, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bubba g

I would vote dem if they could come up with a good candidate..

Honestly am not really happy with any of the candidates.

they all blow

02-20-2008, 01:20 PM	#1
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02-20-2008, 03:46 PM	#2
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02-22-2008, 02:32 PM	#3
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02-22-2008, 05:31 PM	#4
Drew1200 Perma-Bulk to 280 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 779 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 73	Re: Obama's accomplishments Funny thing is Hilary hasn't passed any notable legislation either...and alot of what McCain has passed is what makes the right so unhappy with him.

02-22-2008, 08:44 PM	#5
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,183 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 154	Re: Obama's accomplishments ^ we're not talking about that, we're talking about how uncomfortable these situations are They've ALL helped pass legisislation just by nature of their jobs. This is just a funny question because no one knows the answer __________________

02-23-2008, 03:59 PM	#7
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,183 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 154	Re: Obama's accomplishments __________________

02-23-2008, 09:29 PM	#8
NYCmitch25 Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,085 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 50	Re: Obama's accomplishments the classic knock on all canidates - "they lack experience" - everyone says that - im carefull not to fall into that trap. make up my own mind. __________________ "I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds." - Rollins

02-24-2008, 04:18 AM	#10
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,183 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 154	Re: Obama's accomplishments omg you are teh sexist!!! The thing about the OJ reference gets under my skin, the Farrakhan reference is a little of a far stretch imo. I just posted them to be mischievous I am a Clinton supporter and can't help but giggle with glee now that the obama dirt is finally starting to surface. 3-4 months ago people were acting like this guy was squeaky clean. He's running on a podium of getting rid of the 'old washington' and the 'insiders' while being endorsed by and working with the kennedy family, he's running on a podium of getting rid of 'old politics' when there are two seperate incidences where his campaign has sent out confusing attack mailers similiar to what the republicans had sent out in the 90s. The man's a great speech giver, but his voting record (massive absences) is terrible, his nuclear reform bill was mushed and molded by lobbyists, and he runs on a platform claiming 'change' that is not possible. I am sorry, no one man can just waltz into washington as a first term senator and suddenly resolve the bipartisanship and somehow depower the lobbyists, the mega wealthy, and the washington insiders. It's not realistic. On the rest of the issues his plans are very similiar to Hillary's, only Hillary's had hers published first and she is specific about how she intends to accomplish them. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and my opinion is that Hillary is not just a better choice, but a good choice. She has me convinced that she will save this economy through technology and end the bush era of anti-science. That's what I've been crying for ever since Bill left the white house. But I've said too much Politics are a sensitive issue, and you will always end up pissing off at least one person by expressing your view. This season I have been avoiding speaking outloud about it. I differ a lot from the typical republican, and at the moment I am having a hard time seeing eye to eye with (rabid) obama supporters. I'm just going to hope my candidate wins, and if not, vote for Obama. Sorry, McWar scares me. __________________

02-24-2008, 01:51 PM	#13
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,183 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 154	Re: Obama's accomplishments This just in: Ralph Nader is running as an independent. All hail McCain... our new president. __________________

02-24-2008, 11:18 PM	#15
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,183 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 154	Re: Obama's accomplishments enter the brain dead. I am SO SORRY OH GREAT INTELLECTUAL SUPERIOR!!! Perhaps if I just sit here quietly you will teach me the mighty ways of your superiority! You are exactly the person I didn't want in this topic. You and I already BOTH KNOW we have NOTHING to say to each other, so for the sake of maturity, please STAY AWAY FROM ME. __________________

02-25-2008, 02:12 AM	#17