pammiejoe6

ok...thats simply gross....

speaking of gross....i was reading about it and it said he was charged with gross sexual imposition....what exactly IS gross sexual imposition??


2907.05. Gross sexual imposition.

(A) No person shall have sexual contact with another, not the spouse of the offender; cause another, not the spouse of the offender, to have sexual contact with the offender; or cause two or more other persons to have sexual contact when any of the following applies:

(1) The offender purposely compels the other person, or one of the other persons, to submit by force or threat of force.

(2) For the purpose of preventing resistance, the offender substantially impairs the judgment or control of the other person or of one of the other persons by administering any drug, intoxicant, or controlled substance to the other person surreptitiously or by force, threat of force, or deception.

(3) The offender knows that the judgment or control of the other person or of one of the other persons is substantially impaired as a result of the influence of any drug or intoxicant administered to the other person with the other person's consent for the purpose of any kind of medical or dental examination, treatment, or surgery.

(4) The other person, or one of the other persons, is less than thirteen years of age, whether or not the offender knows the age of that person.

(5) The ability of the other person to resist or consent or the ability of one of the other persons to resist or consent is substantially impaired because of a mental or physical condition or because of advanced age, and the offender knows or has reasonable cause to believe that the ability to resist or consent of the other person or of one of the other persons is substantially impaired because of a mental or physical condition or because of advanced age.

(B) Whoever violates this section is guilty of gross sexual imposition. Except as otherwise provided in this section, a violation of division (A)(1), (2), (3), or (5) of this section is a felony of the fourth degree. If the offender under division (A)(2) of this section substantially impairs the judgment or control of the other person or one of the other persons by administering any controlled substance described in section 3719.41 of the Revised Code to the person surreptitiously or by force, threat of force, or deception, a violation of division (A)(2) of this section is a felony of the third degree. A violation of division (A)(4) of this section is a felony of the third degree.

(C) A victim need not prove physical resistance to the offender in prosecutions under this section.

(D) Evidence of specific instances of the victim's sexual activity, opinion evidence of the victim's sexual activity, and reputation evidence of the victim's sexual activity shall not be admitted under this section unless it involves evidence of the origin of semen, pregnancy, or disease, or the victim's past sexual activity with the offender, and only to the extent that the court finds that the evidence is material to a fact at issue in the case and that its inflammatory or prejudicial nature does not outweigh its probative value.

Evidence of specific instances of the defendant's sexual activity, opinion evidence of the defendant's sexual activity, and reputation evidence of the defendant's sexual activity shall not be admitted under this section unless it involves evidence of the origin of semen, pregnancy, or disease, the defendant's past sexual activity with the victim, or is admissible against the defendant under section 2945.59 of the Revised Code, and only to the extent that the court finds that the evidence is material to a fact at issue in the case and that its inflammatory or prejudicial nature does not outweigh its probative value.

(E) Prior to taking testimony or receiving evidence of any sexual activity of the victim or the defendant in a proceeding under this section, the court shall resolve the admissibility of the proposed evidence in a hearing in chambers, which shall be held at or before preliminary hearing and not less than three days before trial, or for good cause shown during the trial.

(F) Upon approval by the court, the victim may be represented by counsel in any hearing in chambers or other proceeding to resolve the admissibility of evidence. If the victim is indigent or otherwise is unable to obtain the services of counsel, the court, upon request, may appoint counsel to represent the victim without cost to the victim.

OK...i STILL dont know what he did.....:boink:

i prolly do NOT wanna know!

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Supposedly, he just groped a nurse to try to get her attention, since he can't talk well. I practically know his whole life story from hanging out at BB.com

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Please don't flame me on this - this is simply an observation I've taken.

The majority of "gays" I went to high school with had acouple things in common - They..

-Weren't athletic or in sports in school
-Didn't get attention from the opposite sex or were rejected by the opposite sex
-Came from broken homes or dysfunctional families
-Weren't part of a "group"
-Were just looking to fit in and wanted attention
-From a very religious or strict family upbringing


I beleive gays have some say - I find it hard to believe that anyone raised in a normal healthy home just "is" gay. They grow up rejected all their lives by there peers and find homosexuality as a place they are finally accepted. Some find homosexuality as a means of rebellion against a family or religion they don't like.

This is not to say noone has homosexaul tendencies from birth - but the majority I've grown up with and known for long periods of time have at least acouple of these things in common.

It does make sense in a way. These people longed for attention all there lives - by proclaiming they are homosexuals - they are suddenly noticed and given attention. They are finally accepted into a group of people. The attention is not always in a good way and sometimes they are ridiculed - but think back to when you were in school. These guys were always ignored by guys and girls - they decide - "I must be gay" suddenly girls that would not have spoken to them - are their freinds. Bam - Attention.

Think of it like this. You live in a small farm town all your life - little crime - little problems. You have that on person that thinks they are straight outta the ghetto of NY or chicago. These people are born and raised in a practically farm town yet are "Whats up Homey - Yo Crackers - What's up dawg". Martha stewart is more ghetto then some of these people. Why do they do it?? To fit in and get attention. Same reason I believe some gays talk the way they do. Noone in their right mind talks like a stereotypical gay - Noone. They do it for one reason and one reason only - to stand out and bring attention onto themselves

EDIT: Unless the mods have a problem with this discussion I have no problem discussing peoples opinions on this subject. Don't simply throw out someones opinions as stupid or ignorant - this is a simple discussion - no need to flame...

pammiejoe6

whos flaming? are we out of line? i wasnt getting pissed or anything...i find it very interesting how different people feel about these issues!


well i spoze it all depends on each individual situation yanno prez? i do believe that there are probably all kinds of levels of gay people just like there are all kinds of levels in heterosexual peeps, yanno? i hate to lump anything or anyone into one group to judge as a whole...

its VERY hard for me to label people...

just remember that gay people DO exhibit different mannerisms whether we like it or not....some of them do it knowingly and some of them do not....again....that whole INDIVIDUAL SITUATION thing comes up and i am hesitant to judge....so many different factors come into play depending on where....when....how....people grow up.....things they are taught...people they meet....

intriguing

pammiejoe6

wow really....i wonder what really happened? was he unjustly accused? weird shit!

HCClubPrez

I was referring to anyone who may come in a be like "F^%K Homos" or make "your an idiot" or "your ignorant" posts. I agree - as of yet I find this topic very interesting - but I can also see people ruining this really fast with stupid comments...

pammiejoe6

LOL...nah not here at Ironmass.....we have class here!:fingersxd

HCClubPrez

Was refering to remarks like this.

AAAHHH - ok then - mute point.

davtown

who... me?

This I can deal with... if you had said this originally then I wouldn't have referred to you as ignorant and immature. It was just that when you said "some things should never be accepted", it made it seem like you hated everything and anything that was gay no matter the situation. Since I have several gay friends, this remark didn't fly too well with me. A little clarification goes a long way.....

One of my friend's view on racism (which I happen to agree with), and I guess it could also be applied to gays in your case, is that he dislikes "anyone who intentionally personifies a negative stereotype of their race".

Also, in my experience, it's the homophobes that usually end up being gay. What you described as "the norm" about gay people where you live is something I've never experienced growing up in the SF bay area. I'm short on time here so this post isn't as well thought out as I'd like it to be, but whatever

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pammiejoe6

this is SUCH a great statement! i wholeheartedly agree!!

LoveThyPain

Hahahahaha these Brian Pepper jokes never get old. :bigthumbu

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Drew1200

what about Ian McKellan, who was a very successful actor and had a long career wayyyy before he came out and said he was gay? there's alot of gay people who don't come out because they don't want that attention, and end up depressed with social issues their whole life because of it.

and for the record none of the gay people I know act flamboyant or feminine (niether does Ian McKellan). Obviously there are gay people that do and thats a big stereotype, but the 3 dudes I know that are gay act like any other guy I know, they drink beer, play videogames, and watch sportscenter.

So I guess what I'm saying is the whole "they just do it for attention" argument is pretty much a cop-out. For some that may be the case but for alot it's not, and thats a bad generalization to make.

I'm not really for or against anything here, I was raised to mind my own business and not worry about other peoples affairs. I definitely don't agree with generalizing all gay people into these stereotypes though, and I can't understand why some people get so offended by people with a different sexual preference, especially when it's none of their business to begin with.