Is this a good machine?

danman77220 · 11-02-2006, 02:56 AM

This is at the Sam's club near my house... seems like a great system.

http://www.impex-fitness.com/proddet...umber=MWB+4360

I don't know if the bar comes off the Smith, though... I hope so. If it did, all I'd need is some adjustable dumbells and I'd be set.

How does it look to you guys?

**DJSTARER** · 11-02-2006, 03:03 AM

i guess... what are your goals.

we had a convo just like this with Pumpatron. Here is the link to his thread:

first he posted this: http://ironmass.com/showthread.php?t=8635

then this: http://ironmass.com/showthread.php?t=8736

then finally this: http://ironmass.com/showthread.php?t=8752

what does this all mean? get a basic bench, rack and olympic weight set.

danman77220 · 11-02-2006, 03:11 AM

Basically, I need something with which I can bench (flat, incline, and decline), shoulder press, and squat, but I'd still like to have a preacher curl bench, lat pull down station and maybe some cables. I was thinking about just getting a bench and/or cage with some bars and dumbells, but that's expensive... Basically my price range is about $500. Is it possible to get a bench, rack and olympic weight set for that?

**skelooth** · 11-02-2006, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by danman77220

This is at the Sam's club near my house... seems like a great system.

http://www.impex-fitness.com/proddet...umber=MWB+4360

I don't know if the bar comes off the Smith, though... I hope so. If it did, all I'd need is some adjustable dumbells and I'd be set.

How does it look to you guys?

All in one units suck bro. Just get a bench and a rack, an olympic bar, dumbell bars, and a bunch of weight

**skelooth** · 11-02-2006, 03:28 AM

preacher curl bench, lat pull down station and maybe some cables.

that's only cake icing. You can build a fantastic physique w/o them, especially considering one day you can upgrade and get a cable station.

Otherwise, all in one units suck AND they are over priced. I have never seen or used an all in one unit that I liked.... and I have worked out at so many gyms at this point it's unreal.

danman77220 · 11-02-2006, 03:33 AM

Is it possible to get a nice power rack, bench and weight set for around $500?

**romanaz** · 11-02-2006, 03:54 AM

scour your local ad listings for powerracks. I found one for 125 bucks and snatched it up. :-D You can buy the bars and plates used as well (although I heard to get the bar new, so I did). Shouldn't be to hard :-D

**DJSTARER** · 11-02-2006, 03:59 AM

as a side note, Sam's Club carries a great brand of protein bar. "Premier Nutrition" brand is great. less than 1.00 per bar too.

Boomer718 · 11-02-2006, 12:48 PM

I agree with an individual component setup; you always compromise when you go with a combination unit. Of course space is also a consideration but that unit looks like it has a pretty big footprint.

danman77220 · 11-02-2006, 11:31 PM

Alright, so I found all of this stuff at http://www.newyorkbarbells.tv/

Power Rack: $300

Bench: $240

Leg Curl Attachment: $38

Olympic Weight Set (1000lb bar, 2x45, 2x35, 2x25, 2x10, 4x5, 2x2.5): $130

Olympic E Z Bar w/ Collars: $30

Grand Total: $738 plus freight

Good deal? I think so... except for the bench. $290 for a bench with a leg curl attachment seems like such a ripoff... anything better? And also, are E Z bars better when the grips are perpindicular to the rest of the bar, so execution is similar to hammer curls?

**Blap Blaow** · 11-02-2006, 11:53 PM

Can't offer any insight on prices since I'm in a different country but yeah the price of that bench does seem pretty high. I also think I'd take a pair of Oly DB handles over an EZ bar.

danman77220 · 11-03-2006, 12:02 AM

Whoa, found a way cheaper bench that comes with a leg curl attachment and even a preacher curl attachment (probably wouldn't use the curl bar though)

http://www.bayoufitness.com/Detail.bok?no=67

$150

Grand Total is now $610... much better.

danman77220 · 11-03-2006, 05:39 AM

Alright I've re-thunk it a little... and dumbells are definiately the better choice. So far I have:

Power Rack: $300
Bench: $150
Weight Set: $130
And this dumbell set that comes with a standard bar
(top one in pic): $50

At $630, I'd say this makes for a pretty damn good home gym... see anything that could be cheaper, or anything else I should get?

Boomer718 · 11-04-2006, 12:06 PM

I think that last list of equipment is far superior to what you would have had with the original machine you were looking at. Good luck dude.

**romanaz** · 11-04-2006, 07:55 PM

good choice!

11-02-2006, 02:56 AM	#1
danman77220 Pro Stature Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,021 Recipes: 1 Rep Power: 50	Is this a good machine? This is at the Sam's club near my house... seems like a great system. http://www.impex-fitness.com/proddet...umber=MWB+4360 I don't know if the bar comes off the Smith, though... I hope so. If it did, all I'd need is some adjustable dumbells and I'd be set. How does it look to you guys?

11-02-2006, 03:03 AM	#2
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,049 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 114	i guess... what are your goals. we had a convo just like this with Pumpatron. Here is the link to his thread: first he posted this: http://ironmass.com/showthread.php?t=8635 then this: http://ironmass.com/showthread.php?t=8736 then finally this: http://ironmass.com/showthread.php?t=8752 what does this all mean? get a basic bench, rack and olympic weight set. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

11-02-2006, 03:28 AM	#5
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,202 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	preacher curl bench, lat pull down station and maybe some cables. that's only cake icing. You can build a fantastic physique w/o them, especially considering one day you can upgrade and get a cable station. Otherwise, all in one units suck AND they are over priced. I have never seen or used an all in one unit that I liked.... and I have worked out at so many gyms at this point it's unreal. __________________ http://loseover100lbs.com/misc-f7.html

11-02-2006, 03:59 AM	#8
DJSTARER eating more folate... Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: State College, PA Posts: 4,049 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 114	as a side note, Sam's Club carries a great brand of protein bar. "Premier Nutrition" brand is great. less than 1.00 per bar too. __________________ My philosophies on training: "Extreme training yields extreme results" "Just because you can, does not mean you should" "The best program is the one you are not doing" Penn State Powerlifting-181 lb weightclass PGA Professional of America Current Stats: 474 Squat 601 Deadlift 320 Bench Goals for next training cycle: 500lbs squat and a total over 1400 in competition

11-02-2006, 11:53 PM	#11
Blap Blaow IronMass Sponsor Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 950 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 31	Can't offer any insight on prices since I'm in a different country but yeah the price of that bench does seem pretty high. I also think I'd take a pair of Oly DB handles over an EZ bar. __________________ Blapmungous™

11-02-2006, 03:11 AM	#3
danman77220 Pro Stature Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,021 Recipes: 1 Rep Power: 50	Basically, I need something with which I can bench (flat, incline, and decline), shoulder press, and squat, but I'd still like to have a preacher curl bench, lat pull down station and maybe some cables. I was thinking about just getting a bench and/or cage with some bars and dumbells, but that's expensive... Basically my price range is about $500. Is it possible to get a bench, rack and olympic weight set for that?

11-02-2006, 03:33 AM	#6
danman77220 Pro Stature Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,021 Recipes: 1 Rep Power: 50	Is it possible to get a nice power rack, bench and weight set for around $500?

11-02-2006, 12:48 PM	#9
Boomer718 Pro Stature Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 180 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	I agree with an individual component setup; you always compromise when you go with a combination unit. Of course space is also a consideration but that unit looks like it has a pretty big footprint.

11-02-2006, 11:31 PM	#10
danman77220 Pro Stature Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,021 Recipes: 1 Rep Power: 50	Alright, so I found all of this stuff at http://www.newyorkbarbells.tv/ Power Rack: $300 Bench: $240 Leg Curl Attachment: $38 Olympic Weight Set (1000lb bar, 2x45, 2x35, 2x25, 2x10, 4x5, 2x2.5): $130 Olympic E Z Bar w/ Collars: $30 Grand Total: $738 plus freight Good deal? I think so... except for the bench. $290 for a bench with a leg curl attachment seems like such a ripoff... anything better? And also, are E Z bars better when the grips are perpindicular to the rest of the bar, so execution is similar to hammer curls?

11-03-2006, 12:02 AM	#12
danman77220 Pro Stature Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,021 Recipes: 1 Rep Power: 50	Whoa, found a way cheaper bench that comes with a leg curl attachment and even a preacher curl attachment (probably wouldn't use the curl bar though) http://www.bayoufitness.com/Detail.bok?no=67 $150 Grand Total is now $610... much better.

11-04-2006, 12:06 PM	#14
Boomer718 Pro Stature Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 180 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 6	I think that last list of equipment is far superior to what you would have had with the original machine you were looking at. Good luck dude.

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