Flat Screen LCD's - input

**Viperspit** · 11-24-2006, 05:25 PM

Okay, so I've been looking at LCD's for quite a while now and want to make a purchase. Not sure on size yet as it will go into our office where we spend the majority of our time it seems. I'm thinking 27 or 32 inch.

One of the things I've heard/learned is that the glass is probably 80-90% of the quality in terms of the overall performance. I hear there are only 7 manufactuerer's in the world for all brands that use the Grade A glass. Is this true? I know resolution is important, what's a good res in terms of lines? HDMI input. Right now I don't have a need for this, is it that important?
HD built in tuner(s). I would want this option. How important is dual tuners?

Anything else you guys can help with? The wall mounts see pretty expensive as well, is there a generic place to get these that fit by size of screen? Or is this rigged to fit the brand itself so you are forced to py the ridiculous price?

thanks

**skelooth** · 11-24-2006, 06:11 PM

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Anything else you guys can help with? The wall mounts see pretty expensive as well, is there a generic place to get these that fit by size of screen? Or is this rigged to fit the brand itself so you are forced to py the ridiculous price?

Tigerdirect has them for moderately cheap, they also have a very large selection of LCDs. They've got some amazing deals going until Sunday.

I can't help with the rest of it, I just don't know much about them.

navarone · 11-24-2006, 07:21 PM

If your looking for a sharp picture, that will last you the longest lcd is the best choice. Now in terms of resoloution, most lcd tv's.. if they are HD-Compatible.. will be running at 1080i, with a refresh rate beyound anything you have experianced thus far. The highest refresh right now is sxrd, which doubles the lines so that whilst one is running the other is refreshing constantly, and etc... It provides a deep deep black and a light light white. These tv's will last you a little over 70 000-80 000 hours before burning out.

HDMI, your gunna want that, if your forking out the money for a 30+ size tv, you may as well spend the extra lil bit if any to get an HDTV.. trust me you will love it, and it will be well worth it down the road..

DO NOT BUY A EDTV... i cannot stress this enough!! They are worthless pieces of crap. They usally run at or very close to the cost of one with an HDMI output. Even if you dont use it, its good to keep cuz incase u want it in the future.. ur future ready.

HD Built in Tuners, these are a great feature.. as for dual tuners, i dont know about that.

Hope this info helps.. i know alot about tv's and hdmi and such for reasons of interest and priveous work experiance.

**romanaz** · 11-24-2006, 07:57 PM

the glass is a part of it, but its mostly refresh rate, pixels and the difference of the blackest black to the whitest white (forget the name atm)

**skelooth** · 11-24-2006, 08:57 PM

contrast?

DarkFalcon · 11-24-2006, 09:15 PM

Don't skimp on size, your already forking over a decent amount of money you may as well go as big as you can for you budget. I'd go 42 if you have the money but I won a 26 inch Aquos and while it's nice it's pretty small unless your in a tiny room. HDMI comes standard with most of the higher quality TV's but it's your choice to use it or one of lesser quality connections. I'm using component just because I don't have HDTV and it's just fine for the size of screen I'm using. The rest I think was covered pretty well.

**Viperspit** · 11-24-2006, 09:33 PM

thanks guys, well I just got a call from the wife. she was delievering some stuff and had to go to Office Max. Well, they had a 37" LCD there normally $1099 on sale for $699. I told her to get one and we'll give it a shot. I can take it back within 14 days if I don't like it, no questions asked. I hate these pressure decisions, sight unseen. lol, hope it was a good choice, repacking sucks

DarkFalcon · 11-24-2006, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Viperspit

thanks guys, well I just got a call from the wife. she was delievering some stuff and had to go to Office Max. Well, they had a 37" LCD there normally $1099 on sale for $699. I told her to get one and we'll give it a shot. I can take it back within 14 days if I don't like it, no questions asked. I hate these pressure decisions, sight unseen. lol, hope it was a good choice, repacking sucks

What brand? And $699 for a 37 is most likely a great price unless it's some crap ass brand.

**skelooth** · 11-24-2006, 09:37 PM

Sounds sweet

37" is no joke!

HAYWOOD JABLOME · 11-24-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

I'm using component just because I don't have HDTV and it's just fine for the size of screen I'm using. The rest I think was covered pretty well.

Ya, Viper - DONT spend an arm and leg on those HDMI cables even if you have an HD source. I bet you, and most other people, will not be able to tell the difference between HDMI and the much less expensive component (red, blue, green) cables.

**skelooth** · 11-24-2006, 10:47 PM

RCA Cables for the win!!!

HAYWOOD JABLOME · 11-24-2006, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by skelooth

RCA Cables for the win!!!

lol

**Viperspit** · 11-25-2006, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFalcon

What brand? And $699 for a 37 is most likely a great price unless it's some crap ass brand.

The brand is a VIORE. Never heard of it, but the picture is amazing. It's right over my monitor in our office as I type this watching Wedding Crashers in HD

I gotta say so far it rocks especially for $699.

Yea Heywood, they wanted $79.99 for the HDMI cables, thank Godshe didn't buy those. I have a set of Monster RCA cables hooked up and they do a pretty nice job. Next project is hooking my VidCard in and playing some Delta Force on it to see how it does

**romanaz** · 11-25-2006, 05:22 AM

ooooooo thats going to rock! delta force on that haha

**NYCmitch25** · 11-25-2006, 01:32 PM

Consumerreports.org

Top-notch but pricey 40-inch sets:

• Sony Bravia KDL-40XBR2 , $3500
• JVC LT-40FN97 , $3500

Fine 40-inch LCDs for less:

• Samsung LN-S4092D , $2600
• Sony Bravia KDL-40S2000 , $1800
• JVC LT-40X787 , $2500
• Westinghouse LVM-42W2 , $1800

Top picks among 37-inch models:

• Philips 37PF9631D , $1800
• Hewlett-Packard LC3760N , $1700
• Magnavox 37MF231D/37 , $1500
• Sharp Aquos LC-37D90U , $2500

Good choices in 32-inch models:

• JVC LT-32X787 , $1400
• Panasonic TC-32LX60 , $1300
• Samsung LN-S3292D , $1500
• Sony Bravia KDL-32S2000 , $1400
• Toshiba TheaterWide HD 32HL66 , $1300
• Philips 32PF7321D , $1000
• Magnavox 32MF231D/37 , $1000

Best of the smaller TVs:

• Toshiba TheaterWide HD 26HL66 , $900

If you want a smaller set for a bedroom or office, consider the 26-inch Toshiba TheaterWide HD 26HL66. It was judged excellent for high-definition picture quality and very good for DVDs and standard-definition programming. Sound is very good; the remote is excellent, among the best we've seen.

**Viperspit** · 11-25-2006, 06:29 PM

I see the VIORE didn't make the list that NYC posted.

On a better note, I am writing this looking up at my 37" monitor

I played Delta Force on it this morning, OMG.

I could play this from across the street and still kick ass

I'm in love, and I will not be leaving this room for a while

navarone · 11-26-2006, 09:00 PM

haha never heard of VIORE.. but i know that alot of bigger brand companies are coming out with cheaper versions now..

like the brand olieva.. its a cheaper counterpart of a higher company, however it looks the same graphically.

79.99$ for hdmi cables?? thats insane.. i remember when i was looking at the monster hdmi.. 219$ hahaha.

I bought monster component.. and playing 360 with the component looks awsome.. nhl07.. like nothing seen yet.. its amazing.

11-24-2006, 05:25 PM	#1
Viperspit Incognito Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 680 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 14	Flat Screen LCD's - input Okay, so I've been looking at LCD's for quite a while now and want to make a purchase. Not sure on size yet as it will go into our office where we spend the majority of our time it seems. I'm thinking 27 or 32 inch. One of the things I've heard/learned is that the glass is probably 80-90% of the quality in terms of the overall performance. I hear there are only 7 manufactuerer's in the world for all brands that use the Grade A glass. Is this true? I know resolution is important, what's a good res in terms of lines? HDMI input. Right now I don't have a need for this, is it that important? HD built in tuner(s). I would want this option. How important is dual tuners? Anything else you guys can help with? The wall mounts see pretty expensive as well, is there a generic place to get these that fit by size of screen? Or is this rigged to fit the brand itself so you are forced to py the ridiculous price? thanks

11-24-2006, 07:21 PM	#3
navarone Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 930 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 52	If your looking for a sharp picture, that will last you the longest lcd is the best choice. Now in terms of resoloution, most lcd tv's.. if they are HD-Compatible.. will be running at 1080i, with a refresh rate beyound anything you have experianced thus far. The highest refresh right now is sxrd, which doubles the lines so that whilst one is running the other is refreshing constantly, and etc... It provides a deep deep black and a light light white. These tv's will last you a little over 70 000-80 000 hours before burning out. HDMI, your gunna want that, if your forking out the money for a 30+ size tv, you may as well spend the extra lil bit if any to get an HDTV.. trust me you will love it, and it will be well worth it down the road.. DO NOT BUY A EDTV... i cannot stress this enough!! They are worthless pieces of crap. They usally run at or very close to the cost of one with an HDMI output. Even if you dont use it, its good to keep cuz incase u want it in the future.. ur future ready. HD Built in Tuners, these are a great feature.. as for dual tuners, i dont know about that. Hope this info helps.. i know alot about tv's and hdmi and such for reasons of interest and priveous work experiance. __________________ Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated Stats: Weight: Between 200-205 depending on the day Bench: 265X5 atm. Squat: 360X5 atm.. Higest Ever 435 Deadlift: 420X3 Waist: 34 Arms: 17.5 cold . Pics Finally! http://www.ironmass.com/f16/nav-s-1-...ulk-12947.html

11-24-2006, 08:57 PM	#5
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,205 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	contrast? __________________ R I P

11-24-2006, 09:37 PM	#9
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,205 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	Sounds sweet 37" is no joke! __________________ R I P

11-24-2006, 10:47 PM	#11
skelooth eh heh heh Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you Posts: 7,205 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 158	RCA Cables for the win!!! __________________ R I P

11-24-2006, 09:15 PM	#6
DarkFalcon I've got a RAGING clue! Join Date: May 2005 Location: dnyc99's cleaning staff Posts: 11,511 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 299	Don't skimp on size, your already forking over a decent amount of money you may as well go as big as you can for you budget. I'd go 42 if you have the money but I won a 26 inch Aquos and while it's nice it's pretty small unless your in a tiny room. HDMI comes standard with most of the higher quality TV's but it's your choice to use it or one of lesser quality connections. I'm using component just because I don't have HDTV and it's just fine for the size of screen I'm using. The rest I think was covered pretty well.

11-24-2006, 09:33 PM	#7
Viperspit Incognito Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 680 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 14	thanks guys, well I just got a call from the wife. she was delievering some stuff and had to go to Office Max. Well, they had a 37" LCD there normally $1099 on sale for $699. I told her to get one and we'll give it a shot. I can take it back within 14 days if I don't like it, no questions asked. I hate these pressure decisions, sight unseen. lol, hope it was a good choice, repacking sucks

11-25-2006, 01:32 PM	#15
NYCmitch25 Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,104 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 51	CR's Quick picks for LCD's Consumerreports.org Top-notch but pricey 40-inch sets: • Sony Bravia KDL-40XBR2 , $3500 • JVC LT-40FN97 , $3500 Fine 40-inch LCDs for less: • Samsung LN-S4092D , $2600 • Sony Bravia KDL-40S2000 , $1800 • JVC LT-40X787 , $2500 • Westinghouse LVM-42W2 , $1800 Top picks among 37-inch models: • Philips 37PF9631D , $1800 • Hewlett-Packard LC3760N , $1700 • Magnavox 37MF231D/37 , $1500 • Sharp Aquos LC-37D90U , $2500 Good choices in 32-inch models: • JVC LT-32X787 , $1400 • Panasonic TC-32LX60 , $1300 • Samsung LN-S3292D , $1500 • Sony Bravia KDL-32S2000 , $1400 • Toshiba TheaterWide HD 32HL66 , $1300 • Philips 32PF7321D , $1000 • Magnavox 32MF231D/37 , $1000 Best of the smaller TVs: • Toshiba TheaterWide HD 26HL66 , $900 If you want a smaller set for a bedroom or office, consider the 26-inch Toshiba TheaterWide HD 26HL66. It was judged excellent for high-definition picture quality and very good for DVDs and standard-definition programming. Sound is very good; the remote is excellent, among the best we've seen. __________________ "I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds." - Rollins Last edited by NYCmitch25 : 11-25-2006 at 01:56 PM.

11-25-2006, 06:29 PM	#16
Viperspit Incognito Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 680 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 14	I see the VIORE didn't make the list that NYC posted. On a better note, I am writing this looking up at my 37" monitor I played Delta Force on it this morning, OMG. I could play this from across the street and still kick ass I'm in love, and I will not be leaving this room for a while

11-26-2006, 09:00 PM	#17
navarone Pro Stature Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 930 Recipes: 0 Rep Power: 52	haha never heard of VIORE.. but i know that alot of bigger brand companies are coming out with cheaper versions now.. like the brand olieva.. its a cheaper counterpart of a higher company, however it looks the same graphically. 79.99$ for hdmi cables?? thats insane.. i remember when i was looking at the monster hdmi.. 219$ hahaha. I bought monster component.. and playing 360 with the component looks awsome.. nhl07.. like nothing seen yet.. its amazing. __________________ Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated Stats: Weight: Between 200-205 depending on the day Bench: 265X5 atm. Squat: 360X5 atm.. Higest Ever 435 Deadlift: 420X3 Waist: 34 Arms: 17.5 cold . Pics Finally! http://www.ironmass.com/f16/nav-s-1-...ulk-12947.html