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Old 05-12-2006, 02:10 AM   #31
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Ha... Yeah, i'm definitly no computer nerd though. :P And I don't say that in a negative way towards people who would consider themself a computer nerd, all it means is I have other things I do with my time when they're doing that i'm doing something usually equally useless and unproductive if not moreso, and i'm just more ignorant. Anyway, yeah theres the incredible desktop that'll never be beaten. Even though i'm fairly certain its an XP default. :P
I used to have that background once and my friend kept goofing around as if he was in space like he kept bringing his head forward to the computer going whoosh and stupid stuff like that until he hit the monitor and it fell backwards and broke.

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Skel!! What is up with the Avatar. Are those freaking abs?????????????
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Skel!! What is up with the Avatar. Are those freaking abs?????????????
nah he just Louis Dorman-ed them on
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Even though I use nothing but linux at school, I can't stand to use it at home. I rather pay $$$ and have everything one click install, never crash (Win XP seems really stable at least for me), no research needed because everything I could need is easy to find for Windows and idiot proof.
Likewise bro, i'm so computer un-savy/illiterate, it's pretty sad really.
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I used to have that background once and my friend kept goofing around as if he was in space like he kept bringing his head forward to the computer going whoosh and stupid stuff like that until he hit the monitor and it fell backwards and broke.
LOL!! I can so see that happening, it really does have that affect.
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So what does Linux do?

I've seen it on some sites for download but I've never understood what it actually does.
Linux is an operating system, you can get Ubuntu like Skel here has, you can get a peanut Linux, etc. It's essentially a much more white/black/grey hat hacker friendly OS, and a much more computer literate user OS. Unix is similar, but more of a server-based operating system. Basically, windows/mac is for computer-idiots who wouldn't have been able to use a computer in the 70's. If I said anything wrong above, I encourage someone who knows shit all what they're talking about to correct me, thanks.
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XP doesn't have a black theme

but Vista does :P


I do have alot of programs on there but I barely use them.
your running windows vista already? is it true that its gonna take about 1gig of ram just to run the OS properly/efficiently?
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The only thing I'll correct and append is linux vs unix.

Unix is a commercial operating system that undergoes very rigerous development/testing. It is 'rock solid' in terms of stability, and is used by businesses both large and small for things like accounts recievable, payroll.... and whatever other critical functions they need.

Unix is (I THINK entirely??) owned by the SCO group. I actually met an SCO dev one time at my old job.... strange guy.... he actually told me not to go into programming.

Linux is more formally called GNU Linux. GNU stands for "GNU's Not Unix".... which is pretty much the core group responsible for all of the cool open source free software available. GNU's original intent was to recreate a unix like OS but for free distribution for many philisophical and theoretical economical reasons. Their website is a good read.

It's obviously grown into much more than that.

The linux kernel was originally developed by a college student named Linus who created it as iirc a project that was being overseen by a professor, but I might be screwing up the story. It's another good read.

Linux as an operating system is composed of MANY individual open source (GNU GPL) software packages such as X.org, Gnome/KDE, CUPS, SAMBA, Perl, etc etc etc, i mean the list could go on forever. Linux as an operating system is a collective effort amongst countless open source programmers.

Due to the nature of the license of opensource software, you are allowed to take it, modify it, package it up, and sell or distribute your own version of linux
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yea so i was a pothead, just havent gotten around to changin it lol
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lol tru....its obvious i dont clean the desktop icons very often
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Lmao, Dorman'd Moderator. Anyway bro, thanks a lot for that.
"GNU's Not Unix" thats freaking awesome.. I never did know what GNU was, lol. I always assumed with Linux it still meant General Public License.

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The only thing I'll correct and append is linux vs unix.

Unix is a commercial operating system that undergoes very rigerous development/testing. It is 'rock solid' in terms of stability, and is used by businesses both large and small for things like accounts recievable, payroll.... and whatever other critical functions they need.

Unix is (I THINK entirely??) owned by the SCO group. I actually met an SCO dev one time at my old job.... strange guy.... he actually told me not to go into programming.

Linux is more formally called GNU Linux. GNU stands for "GNU's Not Unix".... which is pretty much the core group responsible for all of the cool open source free software available. GNU's original intent was to recreate a unix like OS but for free distribution for many philisophical and theoretical economical reasons. Their website is a good read.

It's obviously grown into much more than that.

The linux kernel was originally developed by a college student named Linus who created it as iirc a project that was being overseen by a professor, but I might be screwing up the story. It's another good read.

Linux as an operating system is composed of MANY individual open source (GNU GPL) software packages such as X.org, Gnome/KDE, CUPS, SAMBA, Perl, etc etc etc, i mean the list could go on forever. Linux as an operating system is a collective effort amongst countless open source programmers.

Due to the nature of the license of opensource software, you are allowed to take it, modify it, package it up, and sell or distribute your own version of linux
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The only thing I'll correct and append is linux vs unix.

-----Unix comments and soome more geeky knowledge---------


Unix is a commercial operating system that undergoes very rigerous development/testing. It is 'rock solid' in terms of stability, and is used by businesses both large and small for things like accounts recievable, payroll.... and whatever other critical functions they need.

Unix is (I THINK entirely??) owned by the SCO group. I actually met an SCO dev one time at my old job.... strange guy.... he actually told me not to go into programming.

Linux is more formally called GNU Linux. GNU stands for "GNU's Not Unix".... which is pretty much the core group responsible for all of the cool open source free software available. GNU's original intent was to recreate a unix like OS but for free distribution for many philisophical and theoretical economical reasons. Their website is a good read.

It's obviously grown into much more than that.

The linux kernel was originally developed by a college student named Linus who created it as iirc a project that was being overseen by a professor, but I might be screwing up the story. It's another good read.

Linux as an operating system is composed of MANY individual open source (GNU GPL) software packages such as X.org, Gnome/KDE, CUPS, SAMBA, Perl, etc etc etc, i mean the list could go on forever. Linux as an operating system is a collective effort amongst countless open source programmers.

Due to the nature of the license of opensource software, you are allowed to take it, modify it, package it up, and sell or distribute your own version of linux
just a correction. SCO does not own UNIX entirely. While some of UNIX system V is kinda in limbo as UNIX was created by AT&T in the 80's however thye took a lot of freeBSD software in the use when some of System V was bieng created/partly co-developed with univesity of california - berkley. (Actually a lot of stuff for UNIX and even C programming language all came from U of C berkley) . SCO group actually bought Novell's version of UNIX to sell as SCO UNIX. SCO bout the rights to the product not the System V licensing as it could not afford it. Novell get's all the royalties for system V licenses such aass from IBM, although SCO collects them and gets a fee for adminstrative purposes. Novell is actually the main owner and the only one that can grant a UNIX system V new license, such as if microsoft wanted to make a UNIX varient it would need novells approval not SCO. If you follow some of thier current litigation you can see in any case Novell owns most rights to System V code. System V code is the standard kernal base that comprises virtually all UNIX flavors.

What happened to UNIX was AT & T developed the system and liscened it out to IBM, HP, SUN, Silicon Graphics, and Novell originally. Since back then it had a monopoly in telecoms the goverment said they could not control data transmission and such things as computers. (otherwise right now you would actually be using an AT&T PC.) What happened in the 70's/80's when the kernal was born and liscened out the other companies built the rest of thier functions around the kernal provided and AT&T got the royalties and control of the standards for the kernal. Such things as interface, and little extras where provided by the companies that licensed the OS kernal. So the UNIX variants (tons at the time) ended up so different you could only go with one vendor not multiple easily as you picked based more on function. However all kernal commands stayed the same. The main kernal is only a portion of unix the other 80% ish is differnt for each flavor. All the systems worked on different hardware also. At that time vendors did not license thier hardware to others so complete control is rendered. You use AIX (ibm unix) on power PC's (ibm procesor), until recently have been able to run on x86(intel) (sun, SCo and I thin others) .

Microsoft's domination is not in that it was superior at the time. It's microsoft said here's the software here's the standard anyone can make a windows PC. Rather than one vendor you opened up competition between say dell, and gateway. Niether would have had a chance without that type of model since niether had an OS themselves or hardware to make it. Apple fell due to it's we make the PC and the OS only no one else. Well 50,000 other manufacturers that only need random hardware and have an OS works. Linux is most competitive with microsoft on 3 fronts. Unix in business is highly recognized. It is cheap. It is not vendor specific such as UNIX is and Apple. That is one of the main reasons.

side note on linux. Linus also did something smart. He has made sure linux stays 1 flavor. Now it is the addons that make it different. The big advantage is not having a IBM linux version not compatible with a HP like what happened to UNIX. That would be like 5 versions of Micosoft windows that are incompatable with eachother. Every program for one linux distro should work on another distro because of this.

------------------more geeky stuff- random knowledge--------------------

For the geeks some more. The story of the C programming language. There where mainly fortan and cobol back in the ealry days of computing. Both have advantages and some cases still inuse. Also thier where many processors that you had to re-write a program to run on as each processed in different ways. At&T wanted a computer language that when compiled could run opn any vendor but also suited thier purpose which was could operate the massive automated switches. Cobol and fortran where not too suitede for this. Well then comes along U of C berkley and had this idea earlier and so set forth to do this task. Having the base already built AT&T kinda took it. They then added more functions and had to come up with a name. The berkley programming language that it was built on was called B for berkley programming language. So they creatively called thier system C. Hence C is born. C with the base structure after years and MASSIVE adoption became the standard as it ran on anything and was highly multi-purpose. Corporations had massive libraries of code for devloper use and they would simply insert the code in as they needed. In many cases repeating the code over and over. If a top programmer went to another company typically they bombed as thier library was different than the other compaines. At&T decided they needed to add standard library functions so to do certain things was a standard command. Instead of rewrtiting in every program how to get what the user typed as was the case before. So the C libraries where created. Now how to name the new version. It was noticed when other languages came out bombed because poeple hate change especially computer nerds. So they originally thought to call it D since it was called B at berkley taken called C so D would make sense. Decided no and looked at the programming language itself one command ++ means one better such n=4 n++ would add one and make it a 5. So then became C++ as well know it today. They are so stuck on these commands that is why Visual BAsic is small time. Microsoft had a novel idea and made "normal" words to function as the programming language it bombed since C++ was established and known. Hell Visual Basic, Java, and all others are written in C++. Java took off since it is virtually C++ same as C# by mirosoft thye learned thier lesson.

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computers have acronyms for eveything. PC = personal computer, Hp, IBM etc C++= C one better

So what does java stand for. We associate it with coffee but that was not known before. Sun has never said why or what it stands for. The rumor is it stands for
J. just
A. another
V. various
A. acronym
my teacher asked a guy from sun if it's true and he just smiled and said no comment.
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Not to be overly critical, but man that bud is like all leaf. :rock2:
lol its just a random pic bro but i bet it smoked nice
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